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Re: Firefox nightly requires Pulse Audio
Posted: 2017-03-22 11:05
by TonyT
stevepusser wrote:TonyT wrote:I ran into this problem yesterday after upgrading FF to 52.01 from 51.01. In my research I read that the Release ESD version still has also support. Not sure about beta or other ESD versions. I rolled back to 51.01 for now rather than install PA. I'm running Stretch and MATE, installed piece by piece rather than selecting anything during install. I'd like to move to the beta or experimental versions but don't want PA.
Let me get this straight...you'd rather use a browser version with known security flaws than use pulseaudio?
Have you considered apulse as an alternative to pulseaudio?
Apulse will likely be the solution I select. I had trouble with PA when I was running earlier systems and have shyed away from it since. I like to build my system from the bottom up and only install what I need. Sounds works just fine using alsa. As for security flaws, the "flaws" in 51.0.1 are minuscule and the likelyhood of me ever encountering someone or a site that exploits them is near zero. But that's me, others may be more prone to getting exploited.
Re: Firefox nightly requires Pulse Audio
Posted: 2017-04-09 15:10
by timbgo
The news about apulse also spread to Devuan folks (I think it was
golinux who told about it on the Devuan ML), and it is being installed in Devuan machines as well. So thanks!
But I just found a nice user criticism of Mozilla devs (btw, I moved to Palemoon, and _really_ have no regrets) at:
Firefox developers disrespect large swaths of users
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1352780
I'm posting it also because, even though they, afterwards, named me
(
by name and surname in the bug that I participated in, at:
Require PulseAudio to play sound on Linux
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 47056#c175
)
I am not allowed to post, even though I didn't do any more than post in the links that you can find in my previous posts in this topic, such as:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 28#p630102
[ that post is with links to Alsa ML (about Archlinux and much more), and also to Gentoo-user ML where I aired my views as well ]
I hope you'll find "Firefox developers disrespect large swaths of users" linked further above amusing and truthful. And you'll agree that banning posters for just criticism is plain wrong by Mozilla devs.
And I warmly suggest Palemoon (or Pale Moon) to readers. I like to say it really looks to me that Palemoon is an Angel of Honesty in comparison to Firefox. No surveillance on me did I find in Palemoon! And Firefox
is suspicious!
Re: Firefox nightly requires Pulse Audio
Posted: 2017-04-23 18:30
by sjukfan
In version 53.0.is.52.0.2-1, the one in Sid now, this pops up when you try to play sound.
Seems to work fine with
apulse except for a tiny sound delay that you only notice if you stare at people's mouth when they speak in a clip.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-10-12 14:27
by L_V
Do you have at least just libpulse0 installed ?
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-10-12 19:45
by stevepusser
L_V wrote:Do you have at least just libpulse0 installed ?
Firefox now requires pulseaudio be running, or at least apulse to fool it. Libpulse alone is not going to do that.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-10-12 20:00
by L_V
I don't have pulseaudio installed, and sound is working fine in Firefox 57 in Debian stretch.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-11-18 21:50
by sjukfan
apulse is now in Sid.
For apulse to work with Firefox 57
/dev/snd/ has to be added to
security.sandbox.content.write_path_whitelist in about:config as stated
here
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-11-19 02:20
by Segfault
57 built from source, no apulse, still have sound.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-11-19 11:33
by andoru
Same here, although I'm not compiling it myself. Also I switched to Waterfox.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-11-19 12:10
by Nili
It's a misfortune
For a while I found another solution (browser switching).
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-11-20 18:11
by sjukfan
If I remember it correctly they're leaving the alsa code in for now but they're not updating it. And the plan is to remove it in version 5-something. Until then you can compile it yourself with
Code: Select all
--disable-pulseaudio --enable-alsa
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-05 10:13
by L_V
removed by mistake. I edited this one instead of replying (see next message).
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-05 17:52
by Head_on_a_Stick
L_V wrote:Could someone refresh a little bit how to get sound from Firefox without pulseaudio ?
I've just purged PulseAudio from my Arch box and Firefox (v57) went mute, installing the
apulse package brings back the noise for me.
Presuming the same applies to a Debian system try stevepusser's version:
https://software.opensuse.org//download ... age=apulse
I can personally vouch for the skills of the package maintainer, he is great
EDIT: the
apulse package is actually available in testing/unstable so you should be able to install the .deb.
EDIT2: I've thrown apulse into my Arch openSUSE repository (if that makes sense) so anybody with an Arch-based system (including ArchLabs, Manjaro and Antergos) can install it from there, I will be using it myself so it will be kept updated:
https://software.opensuse.org//download ... age=apulse
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-05 20:00
by L_V
L_V wrote:Now I try Firefox 57 from SID in Stretch ... => no sound.
I added apulse [from SID]
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:installing the apulse package brings back the noise for me. Presuming the same applies to a Debian system try stevepusser's version
Do you mean apulse from SID is not fine ?
A changelog would be welcome so that Debian developers update apulse from SID.
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EDIT: after trying again during hours to manage headphone output with pulseaudio without any success (tried everything known), I have tried again apulse form SID, and it works fine, but this should be known
Instead of simply launching firefox, this should be done:
=>>
apulse from SID is just fine
BTW, I cannot understand how pulseaudio is supposed to manage very complex things, but not able to manage correctly a
VERY basic configuration with just one speaker output + headphone output.
Forums are full of complaints about headphone output management with pulseaudio, and difficult to understand that pulseaudio is still so buggy in 2017.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-16 14:48
by Head_on_a_Stick
Hey, good news fellow PA-h8ers: the new upstream version of QEMU (2.11) now has PulseAudio as a dependency
I've compiled a local package without the dependency for my Arch box but now I have no sound in QEMU
Debian sid is still on 2.10 so something to look forward to, eh?
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-16 15:14
by steve_v
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Hey, good news fellow PA-h8ers: the new upstream version of QEMU (2.11) now has PulseAudio as a dependency
Oh FFS. If this bullshit carries on I'm going back to LFS. Or BSD... No crapware invasion over there. No systemdisaster either.
Why the hell does anyone
need this pulseaudio thing anyway?
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-16 15:58
by Segfault
Well, it is consuming additional CPU cycles, generating more heat, may become handy in a cold winter day.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-16 16:08
by steve_v
Segfault wrote:Well, it is consuming additional CPU cycles, generating more heat, may become handy in a cold winter day.
For this I have BIONC.
It's not the resource wasting that pisses me off, it's the unwanted complexity.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-16 16:40
by Segfault
Ha. I just installed Mint into a VM to support friends who run it. Guess what, DNS didn't work, so I had a closer look. It is running some middleman (again!) which sits at 127.0.1.1. Red Hat camp apparently can't write real software, so they add layers between existing software, claiming they are doing things better.
Re: Firefox 53 (in Sid) requires Pulse Audio for sound
Posted: 2017-12-16 16:49
by Wheelerof4te
Segfault wrote:Well, it is consuming additional CPU cycles, generating more heat, may become handy in a cold winter day.
Only if your fan is somehow broken. But then again, if it is, whatever you do will make your laptop a nice barbeque.
steve_v wrote:Why the hell does anyone need this pulseaudio thing anyway?
Why the hell does anyone need Windows thing anyway?
It is just an effort to unify soundsystem on Linux. Making new standards and all of that. You can either accept it and move on, or join ALSA maintainment squad.