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Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-01 20:41
by stevepusser
I like chocolate chip ice cream better than vanilla, therefore it is better.

What is better for auto racing, a Ferrari or a Baja 1000 4WD truck?

I hope this helps you see that your question is equally nonsensical.

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 00:36
by n_hologram
I just checked out antiX for the first time since 2014, and I'm still impressed at its features-to-resource (usage) abilities. I don't know if the feature existed back then 'cause i didn't really look, but I saw something about customizing the live image, which would potentially be awesome for a personal live spin.

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 05:36
by debiman
bikeshedding at its worst :roll:

... welll don't let me stop you!

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 06:05
by makh
Back then, I used Opensuse 10.2, though not a Debian based distro:
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- Opensuse was very nice...
-yast  was powerful and offered configurability not available in gui,

... and it had its cons, for me:
- compiling non repo apps was difficult
- configuring files without yast, got over written by yast
- in the later upgrades, the functioning of old hardware was upto non functional

yast as an optional addon for desktop users could have pushed the linux desktop, more than any linux, but it should be very useful for people on linux mobiles.

Ubuntu:
- Ubuntu ran fine for 6.06, but then due some complications, I had to move to debian.
- The printers support of ubuntu was better then debian

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 09:40
by makh
stevepusser wrote:I like chocolate chip ice cream better than vanilla, therefore it is better.

What is better for auto racing, a Ferrari or a Baja 1000 4WD truck?

I hope this helps you see that your question is equally nonsensical.

Sir! I am more than sorry that you got disturbed, but still managed to read a full page of discussion.

From your signature, and other activities on this forum, it seems you are quite a Guru of Debian/MX. But there may be people like me, who cant code, and cannot probably compile on their own and cannot read source codes to fix the bugs and may have other issues in using linux/debian.

The very purpose of this talk is already clear in the subject. If you cannot help or guide, then theres no need to TROLL here.

Just to clear you, only: I am trying to find "using VMs, and other peoples experience" of a debian based distro, that may give an excellent desktop/laptop experience, but within debian range.

Thankyou

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 14:54
by acewiza
Debian-"based?" Redhat-"based?" Whatever-"based?" I believe the distinction you may be alluding to refers to what I call "1st echelon Linux." - Debian, Redhat, Slackware - and everything else. Other than that, "everything else" is going to be a developer's crapshoot of one sort or another. Support, compatibility, maintenance, etc. all come up for increasing levels of question-ability the further out into the distro tree you go: http://stuff.is-a-geek.net/OnlineDocs/Linux/Linux-Tree.svg

So the answer has to be a definitive "no." Better for what? Your question only raises more, increasingly complicated questions.

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 17:40
by panpan
makh wrote:Hi

a) Please inform that if you have found any of the debian based distro to be better and more polished then Debian, as claimed usually.

b) Please do inform the advantages you actually got.

c) Should the Debian based distros continue to develop, or they should rather be the respins?

d) Distro watch claims most users of Linux Mint, right now. Do you agree?

Thankyou


I saw this topic accidentally and I thought to react. My advice, before you publish something think about it several times. You ask in the Debian forum, where probably are many devs from derivatives of Debian which one is better and you ask more things which go to escalation of tensions .
If you don’t understand this is the basic attitude of a troll, something I think you don’t like to get it.

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 18:32
by HuangLao
makh, this should help you.

Note, the more you stay to the left of this graph/grid the safer the choices....

http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/12.10/gldt1210.png

Only you can tell what you will like, utilize virutalbox or virt-manager and have fun. Personally, I like to stay as close to the "original" distros as possible with a few exceptions.

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 19:16
by stevepusser
makh wrote:
stevepusser wrote:I like chocolate chip ice cream better than vanilla, therefore it is better.

What is better for auto racing, a Ferrari or a Baja 1000 4WD truck?

I hope this helps you see that your question is equally nonsensical.

Sir! I am more than sorry that you got disturbed, but still managed to read a full page of discussion.

From your signature, and other activities on this forum, it seems you are quite a Guru of Debian/MX. But there may be people like me, who cant code, and cannot probably compile on their own and cannot read source codes to fix the bugs and may have other issues in using linux/debian.

The very purpose of this talk is already clear in the subject. If you cannot help or guide, then theres no need to TROLL here.

Just to clear you, only: I am trying to find "using VMs, and other peoples experience" of a debian based distro, that may give an excellent desktop/laptop experience, but within debian range.

Thankyou


I'm not angry, just trying to get you to see that the answer to your question is "it depends."

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 19:39
by arochester
The very purpose of this talk is already clear in the subject.


This is Debian User Forums, for people who use Debian.

If someone has found that an alternative Debian based distro is better why should they use Debian User Forums?

"Debian based distros" have bits added, bits removed and bits changed, so they might be "Debian based" but they are no longer Debian. When someone has a problem with a "Debian based distro" their difficulty might be with the remaining, uncertain, Debian part ---or those other "bits"

In more practical terms is someone prefers SparkyLinux they should use SparkyLinux Forums to gain the best advantage.

Debian Users are ...well...people who prefer and use Debian.

Do you reasonably expect Debian Users to say "I prefer XYZLinux to Debian because ..."

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-02 23:38
by Bulkley
Debian makes it easy to install a minimum of what is needed and then add what you want. What you wind up with is your very own custom distribution. What could be better than that?

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-03 02:22
by makh
Hi

@panpan: I specified only 4 points, in case you did read my first post.

@Bulkey: You have a good point. Thats why I use openbox more than cinnamon.

@HuangLao: Thankyou.

@acewiza: same as above for panpan.

Thankyou

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-03 05:33
by debiman
makh wrote:distro, that may give an excellent desktop/laptop experience

the problem is that op assumes there's some sort of objective status of excellency (or any other similarly subjective term of qualification).

the other problem is that op has done this sort of bs more than once and must have already known what the natural outcome of a thread like this will be, when they started it. so, troll.

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-03 08:01
by alan stone
makh wrote:Debian based Distros... Really better?

It depends on the user and use. For the latter, did you have a look to the distribution search feature here, in particular the "Distribution category" drop-down box in the "Search by Distribution Criteria (Simple Search Form)" section.

Re: Debian based Distros... Really better?

PostPosted: 2017-11-03 14:06
by GarryRicketson
stevepusser wrote:I like chocolate chip ice cream better than vanilla, therefore it is better.

What is better for auto racing, a Ferrari or a Baja 1000 4WD truck?

I hope this helps you see that your question is equally nonsensical.

+100
I don't care what distro watch says, nor what everyone else says, I like what I like, and that is the best.
As far as Linux Distros go, well, Linux is for the birds any more. But for me Debian is the better one.
But after all said and done, the BSD's run circles around the current Linux distros (in my opinion ) , especially OpenBsd.
How ever, since this is Debian User Forums, as mentioned by Arochester,
arochester>>This is Debian User Forums, for people who use Debian.
If someone has found that an alternative Debian based distro is better why should they use Debian User Forums?

Postby makh » 2017-10-30 19:36
Hi

a) Please inform that if you have found any of the debian based distro to be better and more polished then Debian, as claimed usually.

NONE
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b) Please do inform the advantages you actually got.

Absolutely 0, none
c) Should the Debian based distros continue to develop, or they should rather be the respins?

What difference does it make?, they will continue, no matter if anyone thinks they should or shouldn't. Besides that, who would enforce not allowing them to continue , You or some witch doctor ?
d) Distro watch claims most users of Linux Mint, right now. Do you agree?

NO, and again, I will say, I don't care what distro watch and some witch doctor
says.
Just look at the OPs signature:
Employing the best:
Arabic
Debian
Homeopathic

For new: Try Linux Mint

I have said it before, but say again, I would not suggest Linux Mint to my worst enemy, and I certainly would not suggest any one use a witch doctor, even my worst enemy. This thread is For the Birds