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The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-23 15:05
by acewiza
Saw this yesterday and again today. Looks like a developing situation worth monitoring.

https://thenextweb.com/insider/2018/01/ ... e-patches/

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Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-23 15:14
by Wheelerof4te
It was even on RT, LOL:
https://www.rt.com/news/416712-intel-bug-fix-problems/
One comment FTW (even though it wasn't Windows-exclusive, yada, yada):
I guess without doubt we know they call it WINDOWs for a reason. It lets things in and out.


I think there might be more flaws discovered in the future.

Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-23 15:33
by kopper
Wheelerof4te wrote:I think there might be more flaws discovered in the future.

Absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised that it would hit harder on e.g. AMD or ARM next time. I'd love to get on bandwagon of Intel-shaming, but these things are rarely airtight. Intel was the unlucky one this time, let's just wait for the next one.

I'm not saying there's no crappy engineering involved or anything. I don't know enough background and I don't know exactly what is involved with these vulnerabilities. It just feels (judging by the public's reactions) that people are quick to forget stuff like hearthbleed, shellshock, POODLE, etc. Those happened to open-source and yes, I know that those are not hardware related. Stuff is created or updated, bugs are introduced, some of them lead to vulnerabilities. It would be rather interesting if hardware was immune to human screw-ups.

Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-24 20:19
by dotlj

Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-26 14:17
by acewiza

Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-28 20:14
by acewiza
So now my question is: How much of a premium price will the new Mectre-safe silicon demand, and for how long?

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Intel-Plans-Spectre--Meltdown-Patches/story.xhtml?story_id=13000EIO5YZA

Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-28 21:07
by bw123
acewiza wrote:So now my question is: How much of a premium price will the new Mectre-safe silicon demand, and for how long?

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Intel-Plans-Spectre--Meltdown-Patches/story.xhtml?story_id=13000EIO5YZA


Oh heck, let's just all upgrade everything, that will be great for the "economy" and what's good for BigBidnez is good for America.

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Inte ... 000EIO5YZA

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Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-01-28 21:26
by dotlj
Following Intel, RedHat, Dell, HP and a host of others who have issued updates, then issued another update to remove the first update, now M$ joins the party.
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/3315431?sc_cid=701f2000000tsLNAAY&
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4078130/update-to-disable-mitigation-against-spectre-variant-2
With the number of bugs in Windows, how would they know if a problem was caused by one of the mitigations or it was just one of the increasing number of bugs that is part of Windows?

It looks like this party will be going for a while yet.

Re: The Official Meltdown/Spectre Omnibus Thread

PostPosted: 2018-02-04 17:16
by acewiza
Unsurprisingly, Mectre is headlining news of the latest kernel... 8)
https://www.linux.com/blog/intro-to-linux/2018/1/linux-kernel-415-unusual-release-cycle