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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-02-11 19:33

@HuangLao: ps_mem output?

We need to know the RAM usage d00d.
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby bedtime » 2018-02-11 21:21

pylkko wrote:not to rain on the parade, but like some one said here previously: 32 (or 20) MB RAM idle, also known as 1 GB+ of RAM web browsing

check out nanolinux, which claims the total OS ( most common desktop applications and several games) is 14 MB.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/nanolinux/

What concerns me is the 'Last update' (being 2016-10). I like this idea of nano-X. Wonder if such a thing exists for Debian?


Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
bedtime wrote:
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768.0 KiB + 574.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB   getty (5)

If you're using sysvinit then you can disable the TTYs you don't use in /etc/inittab

Interestingly, under systemd the TTY screens are only started "on demand" so that step is not needed :)

All but two are disabled.


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 24.7 MiB +  24.9 MiB =  49.6 MiB   Xorg

Ouch.

If this an Intel machine try removing xserver-xorg-video-intel; if you're using any proprietary drivers switch back to the open version — fglrx is a complete memory hog, for example.

I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel and some others that I know I don't use, but that shaved off only .5mb or so at most.

Currently, I have these apps installed (WARNING: long list!):

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 61.9 MiB +  12.0 MiB =  73.9 MiB   WebKitNetworkProcess (3)
 36.2 MiB +  39.6 MiB =  75.7 MiB   surf (3)
245.6 MiB +  48.8 MiB = 294.4 MiB   WebKitWebProcess (3)

While surf is a beautiful piece of software, the webkit libraries upon which it is based are not updated in Debian stable and so are dangerously outdated and should not be used.

Is there any other minimal browser you could suggest? I am currently testing out midori. So far so good.

I can remember using Arch or Gentoo and having usage down to 25mb on openbox. However, that was a few years ago and I'm thinking I was using OpenRC with no sysd.

ATM, the usage is 47mb with 14 user tasks and 72 system. The kernel has just about everything yanked out of it that could possibly be taken out.

Nili,

Nili wrote:24MB on idle
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#! nili ~ $ pstree
init─┬─dbus-daemon
     ├─login───startx───xinit─┬─Xorg
     │                        └─spectrwm─┬─conky───7*[{conky}]
     │                                   └─urxvt───bash───pstree
     └─udevd

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#! nili ~ $ psmem
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program

176.0 KiB + 118.5 KiB = 294.5 KiB   startx
200.0 KiB + 159.0 KiB = 359.0 KiB   init
188.0 KiB + 305.5 KiB = 493.5 KiB   xinit
576.0 KiB + 196.0 KiB = 772.0 KiB   dbus-daemon
648.0 KiB + 210.0 KiB = 858.0 KiB   conky
564.0 KiB + 358.5 KiB = 922.5 KiB   login
856.0 KiB + 422.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB   sudo
  1.3 MiB + 211.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB   udevd
  1.5 MiB + 625.0 KiB =   2.1 MiB   bash
  1.1 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   2.3 MiB   spectrwm
  3.3 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   4.6 MiB   urxvt
  8.3 MiB + 479.5 KiB =   8.7 MiB   Xorg
---------------------------------
                         24.2 MiB
=================================
Warning: Swap is not reported by this system.
#! nili ~ $

How did you get your xorg down to 9mb? Whatever I'm doing, I'm using 5x that amount. :?

And thanks for all the ideas; I'm really enjoying this thread!
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-02-11 21:54

bedtime wrote:I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel and some others that I know I don't use, but that shaved off only .5mb or so at most.

You could try disabling DRI3 (& perhaps Glamor as well) but I think the performance hit would be significant.

bedtime wrote:Is there any other minimal browser you could suggest?

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/links2

Run it in graphical mode with:
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xlinks2
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-02-11 22:12

OK, here we go: browser, terminal, task manager and "window manager" (tmux) running in under 15MiB:

https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/02/12/lomem.png

Do I win? :mrgreen:
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby Nili » 2018-02-11 23:32

bedtime wrote:How did you get your xorg down to 9mb? Whatever I'm doing, I'm using 5x that amount. :?
And thanks for all the ideas; I'm really enjoying this thread!

I did not much with Xorg, except installing minimal copy. Maybe the old architecture i use? I run x32 / i686 on my system.
x64 AMD is a bit more heavy versus x32, I've optimized my copy by installing very few packages that i need. Also tweaked by using ReduceDebian carefully.

I have those Xorg installed
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ii  xserver-common                2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2                 all          common files used by various X servers
ii  xserver-xorg                  1:7.7+7                           i386         X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core             2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2                 i386         Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev      1:2.9.0-2                         i386         X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev      1:0.4.4-1+b2                      i386         X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel      2:2.21.15-2+b2                    i386         X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:OK, here we go: browser, terminal, task manager and "window manager" (tmux) running in under 15MiB:
Do I win? :mrgreen:


Impressive :D, here you won, Yes! that can be done even on Debian with some whacks. Anyway, your effort is to be praised :)
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby oswaldkelso » 2018-02-11 23:34

On my atom netbook I run:

windowlab with fittstool and a load of scripts in rox.

Most things I can switch on or off as required as they're not hard depends and I have the power to chose individual packages.

re memory:

If were going to look at kernel configs we should look at the "how low can you go" thread.

50MB > 1000MB depending on if I want a full blown system with libre office and Seamonkey or not

I rarely exceed 1000MB and usually run in the 100 > 600 MB range. Depending on how many tabs/applications I have open. It's not that I don't have the capacity on my higher spec machines it's more I don't see why I should bin my perfectly working laptops for little or no benefit.

The biggest pita is crappy websites.

libre office runs fine on my netbooks with only a slower loading really being noticeable when opening several spreadsheets/documents.
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby bedtime » 2018-02-13 17:25

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
bedtime wrote:I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel and some others that I know I don't use, but that shaved off only .5mb or so at most.

You could try disabling DRI3 (& perhaps Glamor as well) but I think the performance hit would be significant.

I believe I've disabled disabled both. Also, stopped using xrandr and did things up proper with config files. Made a script that merely switches the xorg.conf.d script names and kills X to boot into different monitors when I need to. 9menu is used to activate it. Here is the setup I have for both monitors. I am looking for input (this stuff is new to me):

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor-both.conf:
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Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "LVDS-1"
    Option      "PreferredMode" "1366x768"
    Option      "Primary" "true"
    Option      "TearFree" "false"
    Option      "DRI" "False"
    Option      "DPI" "192 x 192"
    Option      "Accel"   "Off"
    Option      "OffTime"  "1"
    Option      "Xinerama" "Off"
    Option      "DRI2" "Off"
    Option      "NoPM" "1"
    Option      "AccelerationProfile" "-1"
    Option      "DPMS" "0"
    Option      "Enable" "1"
    Option      "Ignore" "0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "HDMI-1"
    Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080"
    Option      "LeftOf" "LVDS-1"
    Option      "TearFree" "false"
    Option      "DRI" "False"
    Option      "DPI" "192 x 192"
    Option      "Accel"   "Off"
    Option      "OffTime"  "1"
    Option      "Xinerama" "Off"
    Option      "DRI2" "Off"
    Option      "NoPM" "1"
    Option      "AccelerationProfile" "-1"
    Option      "DPMS" "0"
    Option      "Enable" "1"
    Option      "Ignore" "0"
EndSection

192 DPI, because I am not a programmer with 40/20 vision; I actually like to see my text without having to use binoculars. :roll: Also, cool outcome is that the mouse is also enlarged. :)

bedtime wrote:Is there any other minimal browser you could suggest?

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/links2

Run it in graphical mode with:
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xlinks2

Nice browser! Compiled and installed. I will be making separate post about customization later. Currently, I am starting it with 'links2 -g'. I presume this is the same thing as xlinks2? Certainly takes less memory; the system runs at 50mb with that browser loaded and on duckduckgo. :)

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:OK, here we go: browser, terminal, task manager and "window manager" (tmux) running in under 15MiB:

https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/02/12/lomem.png

Do I win? :mrgreen:

No, you actually lose; you have broken the main rule (philosophy) of Linux in respect to memory:

Unused ram is wasted ram. :P ... The real winners are those running Kubuntu! :lol:

Nili wrote:
bedtime wrote:How did you get your xorg down to 9mb? Whatever I'm doing, I'm using 5x that amount. :?
And thanks for all the ideas; I'm really enjoying this thread!

I did not much with Xorg, except installing minimal copy. Maybe the old architecture i use? I run x32 / i686 on my system.
x64 AMD is a bit more heavy versus x32, I've optimized my copy by installing very few packages that i need. Also tweaked by using ReduceDebian carefully.

I have those Xorg installed
Code: Select all
ii  xserver-common                2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2                 all          common files used by various X servers
ii  xserver-xorg                  1:7.7+7                           i386         X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core             2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2                 i386         Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev      1:2.9.0-2                         i386         X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev      1:0.4.4-1+b2                      i386         X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel      2:2.21.15-2+b2                    i386         X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver

Done. Got rid of xserver-xorg-input-all. Replaced with *evdev. Did ReduceDebian suggestion as well. Think I shaved a mb or two. However, my deletion finger was a trifle heavy, and I decided it was a good idea to delete /etc/alternatives. Was not a good idea (lost net and much functionality...). :( Anyways, easily fixed by just adding back the directory and doing: update-alternatives --get-selections. Was worried for abit there. :?

oswaldkelso wrote:On my atom netbook I run:
windowlab with fittstool and a load of scripts in rox.

Any reason you run windowlab? I've tried it out, and it seems it cannot do nearly as much as dwm can do, and dwm uses less memory, at least on my machine. Also, dwm has built in key shortcuts, so no need for an addional shortcut app.

Down to 43mb. 11 user / 72 system processes.

Amazing how snappy everything is. Pressing the mouse button on the desktop brings up 9menu so fast that it almost feels as if my finger had not even completely pressed the button before the menu populates on the screen; it's like a work of magic! :D
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby oswaldkelso » 2018-02-13 20:35

oswaldkelso wrote:
On my atom netbook I run:
windowlab with fittstool and a load of scripts in rox.


Any reason you run windowlab? I've tried it out, and it seems it cannot do nearly as much as dwm can do, and dwm uses less memory, at least on my machine. Also, dwm has built in key shortcuts, so no need for an addional shortcut app.

Down to 43mb. 11 user / 72 system processes.



As I've said many times elsewhere I'm not a fan of tiling wm's especially dynamic ones. dmenu drove me crazy, but I totally get how some people love the suckless stuff they're just not for me.

There are several reasons why I run Windowlab on my netbook. I like the licence, I like the innovative design. It can open, close, switch, move and resize windows. It's easy to configure and use. I use the netbook as my alarm so it's mostly next to my bed and always on. As I'm using fittstool I've not needed to setup special keyboard shortcuts.

The scripts I have are weather, battery level, wallpaper-switcher/s, and a shutdown script. There used to be a start.sh but I followed my own advice and added it to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.windowlab :-)
I tend to put these in the windowlab menu bar and my home directory.

ps_mem shows
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400.0 KiB + 119.0 KiB = 519.0 KiB    windowlab
164.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 211.5 KiB    fittstool


I think that's a pretty minimalistic desktop

If to want to tinker :mrgreen:

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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby zmisc » 2018-02-15 01:18

I've a DEC VT220 hooked up to a Sun Netra 240 running OpenBSD/sparc64 just for fun. My workstation is a custom built x86_64 box with Debian Testing along with pekwm and tint2, with some xterms and mutt, irssi, etc.

Also I've found tmux to be an excellent replacement for GNU screen the last 10+ years.
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-02-15 03:41

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:OK, here we go: browser, terminal, task manager and "window manager" (tmux) running in under 15MiB:

https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/02/12/lomem.png

Do I win? :mrgreen:


How do u run tmux as wm?
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-02-15 07:17

bedtime wrote:I am starting it with 'links2 -g'. I presume this is the same thing as xlinks2?

I think so, yes, the graphical mode allows you to view pictures so if you can see them then you're good to go.

bedtime wrote:Unused ram is wasted ram

Yeah, I need this setup to save as much RAM as possible for all my Windows VMs :mrgreen:

pawRoot wrote:How do u run tmux as wm?

In the console screen (TTY).

The status bar can read from /sys or /proc to get a battery readout and other things.
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Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?

Postby bedtime » 2018-02-18 09:51

oswaldkelso wrote:The scripts I have are weather, battery level, wallpaper-switcher/s, and a shutdown script. There used to be a start.sh but I followed my own advice and added it to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.windowlab :-)
I tend to put these in the windowlab menu bar and my home directory.

How do you run stats in the menu bar? I didn't know it was possible with windowlab. One other thing: how do you maximize the windows? Aside from manually dragging them?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
pawRoot wrote:How do u run tmux as wm?

In the console screen (TTY).

The status bar can read from /sys or /proc to get a battery readout and other things.

Well, everybody has something that they need to atone for, so I'm sure being stuck in tty is as worthy a punishment as any.
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