Re: Minimalistic setups - what are you running?
Posted: 2018-02-11 19:33
@HuangLao: ps_mem output?
We need to know the RAM usage d00d.
We need to know the RAM usage d00d.
What concerns me is the 'Last update' (being 2016-10). I like this idea of nano-X. Wonder if such a thing exists for Debian?pylkko wrote:not to rain on the parade, but like some one said here previously: 32 (or 20) MB RAM idle, also known as 1 GB+ of RAM web browsing
check out nanolinux, which claims the total OS ( most common desktop applications and several games) is 14 MB.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/nanolinux/
All but two are disabled.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:If you're using sysvinit then you can disable the TTYs you don't use in /etc/inittabbedtime wrote:Code: Select all
768.0 KiB + 574.0 KiB = 1.3 MiB getty (5)
Interestingly, under systemd the TTY screens are only started "on demand" so that step is not needed
I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel and some others that I know I don't use, but that shaved off only .5mb or so at most.Ouch.Code: Select all
24.7 MiB + 24.9 MiB = 49.6 MiB Xorg
If this an Intel machine try removing xserver-xorg-video-intel; if you're using any proprietary drivers switch back to the open version — fglrx is a complete memory hog, for example.
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Is there any other minimal browser you could suggest? I am currently testing out midori. So far so good.While surf is a beautiful piece of software, the webkit libraries upon which it is based are not updated in Debian stable and so are dangerously outdated and should not be used.Code: Select all
61.9 MiB + 12.0 MiB = 73.9 MiB WebKitNetworkProcess (3) 36.2 MiB + 39.6 MiB = 75.7 MiB surf (3) 245.6 MiB + 48.8 MiB = 294.4 MiB WebKitWebProcess (3)
How did you get your xorg down to 9mb? Whatever I'm doing, I'm using 5x that amount.Nili wrote:24MB on idleCode: Select all
#! nili ~ $ pstree init─┬─dbus-daemon ├─login───startx───xinit─┬─Xorg │ └─spectrwm─┬─conky───7*[{conky}] │ └─urxvt───bash───pstree └─udevd
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#! nili ~ $ psmem Private + Shared = RAM used Program 176.0 KiB + 118.5 KiB = 294.5 KiB startx 200.0 KiB + 159.0 KiB = 359.0 KiB init 188.0 KiB + 305.5 KiB = 493.5 KiB xinit 576.0 KiB + 196.0 KiB = 772.0 KiB dbus-daemon 648.0 KiB + 210.0 KiB = 858.0 KiB conky 564.0 KiB + 358.5 KiB = 922.5 KiB login 856.0 KiB + 422.0 KiB = 1.2 MiB sudo 1.3 MiB + 211.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB udevd 1.5 MiB + 625.0 KiB = 2.1 MiB bash 1.1 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 2.3 MiB spectrwm 3.3 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 4.6 MiB urxvt 8.3 MiB + 479.5 KiB = 8.7 MiB Xorg --------------------------------- 24.2 MiB ================================= Warning: Swap is not reported by this system. #! nili ~ $
You could try disabling DRI3 (& perhaps Glamor as well) but I think the performance hit would be significant.bedtime wrote:I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel and some others that I know I don't use, but that shaved off only .5mb or so at most.
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/links2bedtime wrote:Is there any other minimal browser you could suggest?
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I did not much with Xorg, except installing minimal copy. Maybe the old architecture i use? I run x32 / i686 on my system.bedtime wrote:How did you get your xorg down to 9mb? Whatever I'm doing, I'm using 5x that amount.
And thanks for all the ideas; I'm really enjoying this thread!
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ii xserver-common 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2 all common files used by various X servers
ii xserver-xorg 1:7.7+7 i386 X.Org X server
ii xserver-xorg-core 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2 i386 Xorg X server - core server
ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.9.0-2 i386 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.4.4-1+b2 i386 X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.21.15-2+b2 i386 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
Impressive , here you won, Yes! that can be done even on Debian with some whacks. Anyway, your effort is to be praisedHead_on_a_Stick wrote:OK, here we go: browser, terminal, task manager and "window manager" (tmux) running in under 15MiB:
Do I win?
I believe I've disabled disabled both. Also, stopped using xrandr and did things up proper with config files. Made a script that merely switches the xorg.conf.d script names and kills X to boot into different monitors when I need to. 9menu is used to activate it. Here is the setup I have for both monitors. I am looking for input (this stuff is new to me):Head_on_a_Stick wrote:You could try disabling DRI3 (& perhaps Glamor as well) but I think the performance hit would be significant.bedtime wrote:I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel and some others that I know I don't use, but that shaved off only .5mb or so at most.
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Section "Monitor"
Identifier "LVDS-1"
Option "PreferredMode" "1366x768"
Option "Primary" "true"
Option "TearFree" "false"
Option "DRI" "False"
Option "DPI" "192 x 192"
Option "Accel" "Off"
Option "OffTime" "1"
Option "Xinerama" "Off"
Option "DRI2" "Off"
Option "NoPM" "1"
Option "AccelerationProfile" "-1"
Option "DPMS" "0"
Option "Enable" "1"
Option "Ignore" "0"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "HDMI-1"
Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080"
Option "LeftOf" "LVDS-1"
Option "TearFree" "false"
Option "DRI" "False"
Option "DPI" "192 x 192"
Option "Accel" "Off"
Option "OffTime" "1"
Option "Xinerama" "Off"
Option "DRI2" "Off"
Option "NoPM" "1"
Option "AccelerationProfile" "-1"
Option "DPMS" "0"
Option "Enable" "1"
Option "Ignore" "0"
EndSection
Nice browser! Compiled and installed. I will be making separate post about customization later. Currently, I am starting it with 'links2 -g'. I presume this is the same thing as xlinks2? Certainly takes less memory; the system runs at 50mb with that browser loaded and on duckduckgo.https://packages.debian.org/stretch/links2bedtime wrote:Is there any other minimal browser you could suggest?
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No, you actually lose; you have broken the main rule (philosophy) of Linux in respect to memory:Head_on_a_Stick wrote:OK, here we go: browser, terminal, task manager and "window manager" (tmux) running in under 15MiB:
https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/02/12/lomem.png
Do I win?
Done. Got rid of xserver-xorg-input-all. Replaced with *evdev. Did ReduceDebian suggestion as well. Think I shaved a mb or two. However, my deletion finger was a trifle heavy, and I decided it was a good idea to delete /etc/alternatives. Was not a good idea (lost net and much functionality...). Anyways, easily fixed by just adding back the directory and doing: update-alternatives --get-selections. Was worried for abit there.Nili wrote:I did not much with Xorg, except installing minimal copy. Maybe the old architecture i use? I run x32 / i686 on my system.bedtime wrote:How did you get your xorg down to 9mb? Whatever I'm doing, I'm using 5x that amount.
And thanks for all the ideas; I'm really enjoying this thread!
x64 AMD is a bit more heavy versus x32, I've optimized my copy by installing very few packages that i need. Also tweaked by using ReduceDebian carefully.
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ii xserver-common 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2 all common files used by various X servers ii xserver-xorg 1:7.7+7 i386 X.Org X server ii xserver-xorg-core 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2 i386 Xorg X server - core server ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.9.0-2 i386 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver ii xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.4.4-1+b2 i386 X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.21.15-2+b2 i386 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
Any reason you run windowlab? I've tried it out, and it seems it cannot do nearly as much as dwm can do, and dwm uses less memory, at least on my machine. Also, dwm has built in key shortcuts, so no need for an addional shortcut app.oswaldkelso wrote:On my atom netbook I run:
windowlab with fittstool and a load of scripts in rox.
Any reason you run windowlab? I've tried it out, and it seems it cannot do nearly as much as dwm can do, and dwm uses less memory, at least on my machine. Also, dwm has built in key shortcuts, so no need for an addional shortcut app.oswaldkelso wrote:
On my atom netbook I run:
windowlab with fittstool and a load of scripts in rox.
Down to 43mb. 11 user / 72 system processes.
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400.0 KiB + 119.0 KiB = 519.0 KiB windowlab
164.0 KiB + 47.5 KiB = 211.5 KiB fittstool
How do u run tmux as wm?Head_on_a_Stick wrote:OK, here we go: browser, terminal, task manager and "window manager" (tmux) running in under 15MiB:
https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/02/12/lomem.png
Do I win?
I think so, yes, the graphical mode allows you to view pictures so if you can see them then you're good to go.bedtime wrote:I am starting it with 'links2 -g'. I presume this is the same thing as xlinks2?
Yeah, I need this setup to save as much RAM as possible for all my Windows VMsbedtime wrote:Unused ram is wasted ram
In the console screen (TTY).pawRoot wrote:How do u run tmux as wm?
How do you run stats in the menu bar? I didn't know it was possible with windowlab. One other thing: how do you maximize the windows? Aside from manually dragging them?oswaldkelso wrote:The scripts I have are weather, battery level, wallpaper-switcher/s, and a shutdown script. There used to be a start.sh but I followed my own advice and added it to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.windowlab
I tend to put these in the windowlab menu bar and my home directory.
Well, everybody has something that they need to atone for, so I'm sure being stuck in tty is as worthy a punishment as any.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:In the console screen (TTY).pawRoot wrote:How do u run tmux as wm?
The status bar can read from /sys or /proc to get a battery readout and other things.