I mentioned the solution in my reply above for OSS4: I can only obtain sound in Firefox by editing /etc/pulse/default.pa as detailed at Configuring_Applications_for_OSSv4#Pulseaudio.Innovate wrote:firefox even force pulseaudio otherwise no sound on firefox.
So what's the solution to make it work on firefox if you're using other sound system?
Thank you, I'll note your solution & try it out. It's good to have more solutions. I've stuck in the dark for long.kedaha wrote:I mentioned the solution in my reply above for OSS4: I can only obtain sound in Firefox by editing /etc/pulse/default.pa as detailed at Configuring_Applications_for_OSSv4#Pulseaudio.Innovate wrote:firefox even force pulseaudio otherwise no sound on firefox.
So what's the solution to make it work on firefox if you're using other sound system?
No, it doesn'tSegfault wrote:To use plain ALSA in Debian you have to compile FF by yourself, the packaged FF depends on PA.
The way Steve briefly described it to me was that, apulse tricks firefox into seeing pulseaudio as installed when pulseaudio is actually not installed.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Segfault wrote: No, it doesn't
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To repeat: I *do not* have PulseAudio installed in any of my GNU/Linux systems and firefox (both Quantum and ESR) works just fine in all my various boxen.Segfault wrote:OK, you are using apulse instead of PA. It is still a dependency.
I highly recommend it. Going back to Gentoo after ~11 years of Arch and Debian was like the rails under me just vanished. So much freedom of choice.Segfault wrote:Perhaps it is time to switch to Gentoo.
Gentoo isn't systemd-free, it's systemd-optional.Segfault wrote:No systemd here. GTK+ both 2 and 3 can be built systemd free.
There is a hard requirement for a pulseaudio-compatible API in firefox as available in the Debian repos. Whether that is provided by pulseaudio itself or the partial implementation in apulse is irrelevant. Firefox in Debian *requires* the pulseaudio API for working sound.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:There is *no* hard requirement for PA in firefox, please stop spreading FUD
That's just silly.steve_v wrote:There is a hard requirement for a pulseaudio-compatible API in firefox as available in the Debian repos. Whether that is provided by pulseaudio itself or the partial implementation in apulse is irrelevant. Firefox in Debian *requires* the pulseaudio API for working sound.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:There is *no* hard requirement for PA in firefox, please stop spreading FUD
You could call it a "soft" dependency if you don't want audio to work, but that is missing the point.
Firefox requires pulseaudio, and apulse fools it into thinking it is installed with libraries of the same names and LD_LIBRARY_PATH tricks. Firefox then calls code in those libraries, so it does indeed "run".Head_on_a_Stick wrote:I don't have PA installed and I don't have PA running; apulse isn't a program that runs, it's just an interface to ALSA so there is no extra overhead.
I have no idea what you are on about. Are you one of those crazy "split every hair at a subatomic level" people?Head_on_a_Stick wrote:I'm guessing that you are one of those crazy "tentacle" people?
but usually ended up with reliable audio either way.I am feeling a mite argumentative at the moment.sunrat wrote:Pistols at 10 paces!
You may benefit from looking up the meaning of FUD. For sake of truth, I never said there is hard requirement for PA in Firefox. I merely stated Debian version of Firefox is compiled with PA as a dependency. If you deceive FF with apulse it does not mean the PA dependency is gone.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:To repeat: I *do not* have PulseAudio installed in any of my GNU/Linux systems and firefox (both Quantum and ESR) works just fine in all my various boxen.Segfault wrote:OK, you are using apulse instead of PA. It is still a dependency.
There is *no* hard requirement for PA in firefox, please stop spreading FUD
I'm pretty sure both of you are right, just for different reasons. It sounds like HoaS is just affirming that Debian's FF doesn't requrie PA proper; apulse, which a PA emulator, is not PA proper, so you can't really call PA a hard dependency. On the other hand, it's fair to note the direction of Debian's FF towards the PA infrastructure, in no small part to GNOME being the official Debian desktop.Segfault wrote:If you deceive FF with apulse it does not mean the PA dependency is gone.
^ Yes, thank you, that was my point exactly.n_hologram wrote:HoaS is just affirming that Debian's FF doesn't requrie PA
Hypothetical scenario: systemd is not being used as PID1 but libsystemd0 is installed; are yousteve_v wrote:I have no idea what you are on about.