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the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-08 20:42
by Danielsan
Apparently it seems that M$ is selling a distro, WLinux, based on Debian for its WSL.

https://wccftech.com/microsoft-20-linux ... s-10-1809/

Debian is the most important distro for all the floss ecology if M$ has discovered a way to trap Debian we are really in danger... :?
As I wrote in another thread we need a plan to escape from Linux... :!:

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-08 20:46
by Head_on_a_Stick
Presumably the GPL applies and anybody who pays for this can legally distribute copies to all and sundry?

Not that Microsoft will advertise this fact, ofc :mrgreen:

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-08 20:52
by Danielsan
The shock was so strong that I didn't read carefully the article, this distro is made by White Waterfoundry and it is sold on the M$ store... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-08 20:58
by Head_on_a_Stick
It appears to be MIT licensed:

https://github.com/WhitewaterFoundry/WL ... LICENSE.md

Ahoy, mateys! :mrgreen:

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-09 10:13
by debiman
^ isn't it against the GPL to change the license?

anyhoo, the worst side effect will probably be an influx of "Help! i installed linux on windows and it dioesn't work! URGENT!" threads.

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-09 11:10
by yeti
Sadly only the "WLinux-Specific Code" is MIT licensed... :-(
I would have loved watch the MS vs GPL fight with lotsa popcorn and drinks... :-P

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-09 16:00
by llivv
Got SystemD?
Rr
Runs perfect on System64
double R mco

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-10 06:21
by pylkko
Why is it a problem if microsoft distributes a Linux OS? windows store has has Ubuntu for a few years now. Linux is the most popular thing to run on Azure and there are many linux distros optimized for it. SUSE has one for example. And while AOSP is free and open source, and linux, practically all operating system made from it are not. It doesn't exactly take away from Debian that other people use it in other ways. The fact that they are selling it is a bit odd, because of the GPL and, frankly, who would pay for it? What can it offer that pure Debian cannot? It doesn't have enterprise optimizations or support plan, right?

Also, opening this shell from a context menu is not new, it was already in git for windows.

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-10 07:44
by bw123
SSDD, I stopped worrying about it when I first got on debian, but now things are looking awfully familiar around here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_ ... extinguish

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-10 14:13
by llivv
Perhaps someone will put this in print somewhere besides what's buried in court documents
or Hillary's email (strike that).

mmm$ now uses linux ( not the one for sale linked in this post ) for it's OPK
it switched to a linux based OPK for Windows 10 form the old OPK provided to them as a customized version of IBM's ImageUltra

Do your own mafhs... and while you're at it go check out the open groups web page and follow along.
If you really want to know do a histoy search of certified UNIX.
see also: ibm legal
It's not rocket science but it does take an interest and some understanding of license history


Kinda like
Code: Select all
Parent  -   Children
.          -> Apple
IBM        -> Intel
.          -> Microsoft

There are surely grandparents. greatgrandparents and while sheeple around..

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-11-22 11:09
by mike acker
It's my understanding Debian is a FOSS project. as such it is developed and maintained by those who contribute to the effort; as such it doesn't seem to me like it's under control of M$

IBM just spent 1/3 of their net worth to purchase RedHat; IMHO IBM will turn into a RedHat/Linux company

now as far as megasoft goes-- they seem intent on running Linux stuff under Windows. Yuk.

As the Old Sage teaches: If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is: Stop Digging.

Re: the hand of Microsoft extends over Debian

PostPosted: 2018-12-22 04:30
by llivv
I posted this in another thread but it really belongs in this one..
All it takes is a rudimentary search of the repo to see where megasofts contributions are in Linux. intel, IBM (with iptables as a appetizer), apple - oh wait that is already running on top of BSD - nevermind..... unless you like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_(API)
AMD seem to take it's time releasing firmware.

apt-cache search nuget>ms
cat ms
apt-cache search cil- >mss
cat mss
nuget.org
for the official frontpage
linux.com
for the official frontpage

52bil in a public transaction to speed up the transition timetables

looks like the end of trust (if there ever was any) to me.....