llivv wrote: Humm wonder what's eating pottering these days
Microsoft is going to Fire Him ???golinux wrote:I'm hoping a pending pink slip! LOLOLOL!!!
llivv wrote: Humm wonder what's eating pottering these days
Microsoft is going to Fire Him ???golinux wrote:I'm hoping a pending pink slip! LOLOLOL!!!
He's working for IBM now since they bought HatRed.Pick2 wrote:llivv wrote: Humm wonder what's eating pottering these daysMicrosoft is going to Fire Him ???golinux wrote:I'm hoping a pending pink slip! LOLOLOL!!!
Well said. +1!Funkygoby wrote:The project just doesn't fit into Debian
LTS is a crapout, (copout?) kde plasma in stretch is LTS and they haven't updated jack. LTS is just another slogan. All upstream wants to do is make new stuff that's more like windows every release. All LTS means is, "It's sort of broken, but we promise the next ver will be better, so go ahead and release it."sjukfan wrote:Personally I think systemd has the same problem as Gnome these days, things are changing a bit too much, they'd both need a LTS to fit into Debian stable. And I'd be pretty miffed if firefox or something depended on either.
IIRC, there was a proposal to upgrade Plasma 5.8 LTS in Stretch to a newer point release, but it hasn't been done for the fear of breaking it.bw123 wrote:LTS is a crapout, (copout?) kde plasma in stretch is LTS and they haven't updated jack.
Are you completely deluded?llivv wrote:LTS may have outlasted it's duty cycle. since it was originally designed to help users avoid systemd in jessie.
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:llivv wrote:LTS may have outlasted it's duty cycle. since it was originally designed to help users avoid systemd in jessie.
Please let us all know when and why Debian LTS was started.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Are you completely deluded?
"longterm" -- how do you get LTS from "longterm". Must be the new vernacular or some other silly "crap" thought up lately to be distributed thoughout the enterprises. linux.comHead_on_a_Stick wrote:So the "longterm" kernels listed over at https://www.kernel.org/ were designed for jessie? What a load of crap.
yes Please stop, you might want to try taking that head off the stick and have it examined.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Please stop posting this FUD, it's getting really boring...
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"And don't take it personally, I'm just trying to stay in the non-caustic tone and spirit of these boards."[/quote]
might want to consider asking to have this thread locked too.
is a little bit paranoid, don't you think?llivv wrote:Next up Systemd deps on m$ kernel.... and ban Linus from the systemd bug tracker, like pottering has wanted to do for years now....
meant.llivv wrote:"longterm" -- how do you get LTS from "longterm".
As succinctly as possible ...... as of Fri Jan 25 2019Wheelerof4te wrote:^Those links work for me. What are you getting at? And thisis a little bit paranoid, don't you think?llivv wrote:Next up Systemd deps on m$ kernel.... and ban Linus from the systemd bug tracker, like pottering has wanted to do for years now....
LTS stands for "Long Term Support", and it isn't relevant only to Debian. So I don't really know what this:meant.llivv wrote:"longterm" -- how do you get LTS from "longterm".
Please keep the discussion civil and in good spirit, at least. Refer to my "discussion" with H.o.a.S. Or I will ask that this thread be locked.
It is all mostly just gossip anyway, is that the same as FUD ?Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Are you completely deluded?llivv wrote:LTS may have outlasted it's duty cycle. since it was originally designed to help users avoid systemd in jessie.
So the "longterm" kernels listed over at https://www.kernel.org/ were designed for jessie? What a load of crap.
Please stop posting this FUD, it's getting really boring...
Is that a threat or a promise ? What was the point in starting a gossip thread to start with ?or I will ask that this thread be locked.
Debian Long Term Support
Debian Long Term Support (LTS) is a project to extend the lifetime of all Debian stable releases to (at least) 5 years. Debian LTS will not be handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies interested in making it a success.
One could do some searches, to get answers to this, below is from the first hits on my search, it may be just more gossip, or FUD, but based on what it says, Debian LTS was started before systemd came into the picture ,Please let us all know when and why Debian LTS was started.
=== additional===Despite its reputation as an all-free, counter-cultural collection for hackers, Debian is also quite stable and reliable, which makes it a viable option for many corporate networks. But after many years of Linux in the enterprise, admins have a pretty clear idea of what they want: a system that will operate for several years without requiring an upgrade. Rolling out a new operating system in the enterprise can take many months, and the process is quite complex and prone to complications. Better to make such events as infrequent as possible.
In 2014, the Debian developers woke up and realized the recent trend for Long-Term-Support (LTS) releases had left them behind. Because Debian is not backed by a company that can make money on selling support contracts (like SUSE, Red Hat, and Canonical), they had never gotten around to implementing some form of long-term support.
To get a first hand report as to why Debian LTS was started, perhaps one should ask Raphaël Hertzog, or some of the others involved it starting it.After completing the preparatory work, the then-current Debian 6 "Squeeze" became Debian's first LTS version. Its successor, Debian 7, has a correspondingly long support period: "Wheezy" was released in Spring 2013, and its support does not end until 31 May 2018. Currently, Debian is planning to offer Debian LTS support for the still-current Debian 8 "Jessie." The same applies to Debian 9 "Stretch," which will probably ship in the spring of 2017.
One-Stop Shop
The infrastructure for handling LTS tasks is provided by Freexian [3], a consulting company operated by French Debian Developer Raphaël Hertzog. Hertzog publishes a monthly report on the current status, the tasks taken, and the hours worked by the individual developers. Any developer who receives money for work on Debian LTS is required to submit a report on a monthly basis.
The first official paid work for Debian LTS [4] was completed in July 2014. The report published at the time [5] showed 21 hours for two developers; the following month, the two developers had already contributed 32 hours. Two years later, in September 2016, the figures grew to 152 hours provided by 13 developers [6].
And what does "LTS" stand for?llivv wrote:"longterm" -- how do you get LTS from "longterm"
Oh, we won't be insulting each other now.Head_on_a_Stick wrote: you are full of crap.
How about both?Is that a threat or a promise ?
What do you expect?Wheelerof4te wrote:Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Systemd threads are as cancerous as ever.