upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

[Bloom]

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          bloom@zilversteen 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Model: MS-7B86 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 19 days, 17 hours, 39 minutes 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2365 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: pcc_kazloru 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: CleanIce-Marble [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: oxygen [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 11 
              `"""            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (12) @ 3.600GHz 
                              GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM 
                              Memory: 9983MiB / 32184MiB 

I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.

[4D696B65]

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          bloom@zilversteen 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64 

I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.

Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster and yours is sid?

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          mike@G752 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       --------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: G752VL 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 

[Bloom]

I didn't like that for Sid, so I edited /etc/os-release to look like this:

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bloom@zilversteen:~$ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="10"
VERSION="10 (sid)"
VERSION_CODENAME=sid
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"

[Head_on_a_Stick]

Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster

The *fetch programs draw that information from /etc/os-release:

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E485:~$ dpkg -S /etc/os-release                                                           
base-files: /etc/os-release
E485:~$

The base-files package has just been updated in preparation for the Debian 10.0 release, your sid boxen will regain their identity when bullseye is created and a new base-files version is released for testing/unstable.

[sickpig]

the clock is ticking
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-a ... 00003.html

[Wheelerof4te]

^ http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=142332

[debian-2019]

There should be a choice in the poll where it says: "I already upgraded to Buster, no need to wait for the launch date"

[Soul Singin']

There should be a choice in the poll where it says: "I already upgraded to Buster, no need to wait for the launch date"

I believe that option falls into the "crap post commenting how this poll could be better" category.

[None1975]

I will wait a few months and then i will upgrade all of my machines. There is nothing in a hurry. In addition, Debian Stretch works great.

[theblueplll]

There should be a choice in the poll where it says: "I already upgraded to Buster, no need to wait for the launch date"

Did this about a month ago LoL

Actually was a fresh install not an upgrade but whatever.

Have had no problems with anything that I use daily.

[Deb-fan]

Voted new shiny software syndrome. Which is tongue in cheek, latest Debian stable isn't that. If that were truly the goal would still be tracking unstable/Sid, in my experience was anything but unstable always ran great. From a personal user perspective, why not at least current official stable? People with actual production applications could easily feel differently. Just cause it's not the latest stable release doesn't mean it quits being a great rock solid OS.

[sickpig]

I am now daunted with learning differences between stretch and buster. I believe changes were made to auto untenanted upgrades amongst other changes. Will have to read through the 'read this before upgrade' document

[sunrat]

The moment it's launched has passed.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=142569

[cds60601]

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$ neofetch
  `.::///+:/-.        --///+//-:``    chris@raspberrypi 
 `+oooooooooooo:   `+oooooooooooo:    ----------------- 
  /oooo++//ooooo:  ooooo+//+ooooo.    OS: Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) armv7l 
  `+ooooooo:-:oo-  +o+::/ooooooo:     Host: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Rev 1.2 
   `:oooooooo+``    `.oooooooo+-      Kernel: 4.19.42-v7+ 
     `:++ooo/.        :+ooo+/.`       Uptime: 58 mins 
        ...`  `.----.` ``..           Packages: 1881 (dpkg) 
     .::::-``:::::::::.`-:::-`        Shell: sh 
    -:::-`   .:::::::-`  `-:::-       Terminal: /dev/pts/0 
   `::.  `.--.`  `` `.---.``.::`      CPU: BCM2835 (4) @ 1.200GHz 
       .::::::::`  -::::::::` `       Memory: 104MiB / 926MiB 
 .::` .:::::::::- `::::::::::``::.
-:::` ::::::::::.  ::::::::::.`:::-                           
::::  -::::::::.   `-::::::::  ::::
-::-   .-:::-.``....``.-::-.   -::-
 .. ``       .::::::::.     `..`..
   -:::-`   -::::::::::`  .:::::`
   :::::::` -::::::::::` :::::::.
   .:::::::  -::::::::. ::::::::
    `-:::::`   ..--.`   ::::::.
      `...`  `...--..`  `...`
            .::::::::::
             `.-::::-`

$ 

[Bloom]

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$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (sid) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Model: MS-7B86 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 21 days, 5 hours, 43 minutes 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2374 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: pcc_kazloru 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: CleanIce-Marble [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: oxygen [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 11 
              `"""            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (12) @ 3.600GHz 
                              GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM 
                              Memory: 11091MiB / 32184MiB

[NFT5]

I did, from RC-1, on two separate installations in this machine.

So far absolutely no problems with either although I may proceed with the KDE install simply because Dolphin works the way it should there.

Comparison of RAM use is interesting. I thought KDE would be a bit lighter than XFCE. No issue though, I have plenty.

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chris@BOSSDESK:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          chris@BOSSDESK 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Uptime: 2 mins 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Packages: 2566 (dpkg) 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Resolution: 1920x1080, 1080x1920 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      DE: KDE 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         WM: KWin 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM Theme: oxygen 
  `Y$$                        Theme: Aritim-Dark [KDE], Breeze [GTK2/3] 
   `Y$$.                      Icons: Breeze Chameleon Dark [KDE], breeze [GTK2/3] 
     `$$b.                    Terminal: konsole 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal Font: Hack 10 
          `"Y$b._             CPU: AMD FX-6300 (6) @ 3.500GHz 
              `"""            GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 210 
                              Memory: 620MiB / 7945MiB
                              
                              
chris@BOSSDESK:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          chris@BOSSDESK 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Uptime: 12 mins 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Packages: 2244 (dpkg) 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Resolution: 1920x1080, 1080x1920 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      DE: Xfce 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         WM: Xfwm4 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM Theme: Breeze 
  `Y$$                        Theme: Raleigh [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
   `Y$$.                      Icons: gnome-brave [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
          `"Y$b._             CPU: AMD FX-6300 (6) @ 3.500GHz 
              `"""            GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 210 
                              Memory: 488MiB / 7945MiB                              

[CwF]

Only my vm base is 100%

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user@buster:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          user@buster 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       --------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) pc-q35-2.8) 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-4-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 29 secs 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1359 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1200 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Default-xhdpi 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Xfce-curve [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Tango [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Noto Mono 14 
              `"""            CPU: Intel Xeon E312xx (Sandy Bridge) (2) @ 3.199GHz 
                              GPU: Red Hat, Inc. QXL paravirtual graphic card 
                              Memory: 353MiB / 1995MiB 

[None1975]

I made a clean install

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neofetch 
       _,met$$$$$gg.          mindaugas@mate 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: EX58-UD3R 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 2 hours, 48 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1481 (dpkg), 3 (flatpak) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: MATE 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Metacity (Marco) 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: GreenLaguna 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: GreenLaguna [GTK2/3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Papirus-Light [GTK2/3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: mate-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Noto Mono 13 
              `"""            CPU: Intel i7 920 (8) @ 2.793GHz 
                              GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 
                              Memory: 1851MiB / 3944MiB 

[debian-2019]

Also did clean installs (one Xfce official, and one Cinnamon non-free) on my multiboot machine:

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          user@debian10 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ------------------ 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: G41M-ES2L 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 17 hours, 18 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1753 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1600x900 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Default 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Xfce [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Tango [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
              `"""            CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 (4) @ 2.667GHz 
                              GPU: Intel 4 Series Chipset 
                              Memory: 1968MiB / 3911MiB