upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

[sjukfan]

I'm usually on Testing but wait a few weeks after launch before I upgrade, hoping for the worst bugs to be identified until then. Same thing if I was running stable. I mean, there will always be a couple of new bugs after release so one can as well wait a bit.

[Soul Singin']

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./crap-post.sh --comment "this poll could be better" --force

Two of my three systems are still running Debian Wheezy and my laptop is loving Debian Buster.

[PhilGil]

Put me in the already upgraded camp. I try to wait, but I always get impatient and upgrade some time between the hard freeze and release day.

[sickpig]

brave ones all of you who have upgraded, i have setup stretch just the way i like it. i fear the upgrade might change or break something. stretch would have to be pried from my cold dead fingers before i let it go

[Soul Singin']

i fear the upgrade might change or break something.

It will. There are a lot of changes in the file hierarchy. For example, Buster could not find my Brother scanner until I copied the Brother libraries to a different directory. And all of the packages that depend on Qt4 and libmariadbd18 have to be rebuilt, so Amarok will not be in Buster, nor will kodi-pvr-hts.

stretch would have to be pried from my cold dead fingers before i let it go

I still have two systems running Wheezy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[sickpig]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

^ the very words i live by

how do ensure security updates for wheezy though?

[Soul Singin']

how do ensure security updates for wheezy though?

There are no security upgrades for Wheezy. But that's not much of an issue for my two Wheezy machines. One is a television server (for over-the-air broadcast TV). The other is my phonetop, which I use as an alternative desktop, but rarely use to browse the internet.

For everything else, I have a laptop running Debian Buster.

[sickpig]

sounds good, thanks for sharing! i plan to stick with stretch until they provide security updates after that a sad bye bye

[Head_on_a_Stick]

i fear the upgrade might change or break something.

Backup the system before upgrading then. But you already have a full backup, right?

If you're using btrfs then take a snaphot, boot into the snapshot and upgrade that to test.

[sickpig]

Buster says ^^

[eor2004]

I'll wait a couple of months before upgrading to Buster just in case!

[Head_on_a_Stick]

Only 55% of the respondents in this poll have any balls

[GarryRicketson]

Your right:

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garry% bc
38+4+13
55
quit
garry% 

I all ready have it on a VM , so no need to upgrade when it is released/launched.

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garry@debian:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          garry@debian 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ------------ 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996) p 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 7 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 973 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Terminal: /dev/pts/0 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         CPU: QEMU Virtual version 2.5+ (1) @ 2.992GHz 
 `$$b      "-.__              GPU: Vendor 1234 Device 1111 
  `Y$$                        Memory: 66MiB / 963MiB 
   `Y$$.
     `$$b.                                            
       `Y$$b.
          `"Y$b._
              `"""

garry@debian:~$ 

 

[Head_on_a_Stick]

@Garry: bc is bloat!

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E485:~$ echo $((38+4+13))
55
E485:~$

[sickpig]

Only 55% of the respondents in this poll have any balls

yet just one deek

[Bloom]

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          bloom@zilversteen 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Model: MS-7B86 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 19 days, 17 hours, 39 minutes 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2365 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: pcc_kazloru 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: CleanIce-Marble [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: oxygen [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 11 
              `"""            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (12) @ 3.600GHz 
                              GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM 
                              Memory: 9983MiB / 32184MiB 

I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.

[4D696B65]

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          bloom@zilversteen 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64 

I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.

Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster and yours is sid?

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          mike@G752 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       --------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: G752VL 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 

[Bloom]

I didn't like that for Sid, so I edited /etc/os-release to look like this:

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bloom@zilversteen:~$ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="10"
VERSION="10 (sid)"
VERSION_CODENAME=sid
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"

[Head_on_a_Stick]

Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster

The *fetch programs draw that information from /etc/os-release:

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E485:~$ dpkg -S /etc/os-release                                                           
base-files: /etc/os-release
E485:~$

The base-files package has just been updated in preparation for the Debian 10.0 release, your sid boxen will regain their identity when bullseye is created and a new base-files version is released for testing/unstable.

[sickpig]

the clock is ticking
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-a ... 00003.html