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Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-03 15:49
by sjukfan
I'm usually on Testing but wait a few weeks after launch before I upgrade, hoping for the worst bugs to be identified until then. Same thing if I was running stable. I mean, there will always be a couple of new bugs after release so one can as well wait a bit.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-03 16:19
by Soul Singin'
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./crap-post.sh --comment "this poll could be better" --force
Two of my three systems are still running Debian Wheezy and my laptop is loving Debian Buster.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-03 23:36
by PhilGil
Put me in the already upgraded camp. I try to wait, but I always get impatient and upgrade some time between the hard freeze and release day.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-04 01:10
by sickpig
brave ones all of you who have upgraded, i have setup stretch just the way i like it. i fear the upgrade might change or break something. stretch would have to be pried from my cold dead fingers before i let it go
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-04 02:20
by Soul Singin'
sickpig wrote:i fear the upgrade might change or break something.
It will. There are a lot of changes in the file hierarchy. For example, Buster could not find my Brother scanner until I copied the Brother libraries to a different directory. And all of the packages that depend on Qt4 and
libmariadbd18 have to be rebuilt, so Amarok will not be in Buster, nor will
kodi-pvr-hts.
sickpig wrote:stretch would have to be pried from my cold dead fingers before i let it go
I still have two systems running Wheezy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-04 03:45
by sickpig
Soul Singin' wrote:If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
^ the very words i live by
how do ensure security updates for wheezy though?
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-04 06:45
by Soul Singin'
sickpig wrote:how do ensure security updates for wheezy though?
There are no security upgrades for Wheezy. But that's not much of an issue for my two Wheezy machines. One is a television server (for over-the-air broadcast TV). The other is my phonetop, which I use as an alternative desktop, but rarely use to browse the internet.
For everything else, I have a laptop running Debian Buster.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-04 07:54
by sickpig
sounds good, thanks for sharing! i plan to stick with stretch until they provide security updates after that a sad bye bye
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-04 16:19
by Head_on_a_Stick
sickpig wrote:i fear the upgrade might change or break something.
Backup the system before upgrading then. But you already have a full backup, right?
If you're using btrfs then take a snaphot, boot into the snapshot and upgrade that to test.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-05 00:18
by sickpig
Buster says ^^
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-07 17:26
by eor2004
I'll wait a couple of months before upgrading to Buster just in case!
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-07 17:32
by Head_on_a_Stick
Only 55% of the respondents in this poll have any balls
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-07 18:36
by GarryRicketson
Your right:
I all ready have it on a VM , so no need to upgrade when it is released/launched.
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garry@debian:~$ neofetch
_,met$$$$$gg. garry@debian
,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P. ------------
,g$$P" """Y$$.". OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64
,$$P' `$$$. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996) p
',$$P ,ggs. `$$b: Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64
`d$$' ,$P"' . $$$ Uptime: 7 mins
$$P d$' , $$P Packages: 973 (dpkg)
$$: $$. - ,d$$' Shell: bash 5.0.3
$$; Y$b._ _,d$P' Terminal: /dev/pts/0
Y$$. `.`"Y$$$$P"' CPU: QEMU Virtual version 2.5+ (1) @ 2.992GHz
`$$b "-.__ GPU: Vendor 1234 Device 1111
`Y$$ Memory: 66MiB / 963MiB
`Y$$.
`$$b.
`Y$$b.
`"Y$b._
`"""
garry@debian:~$
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-07 18:50
by Head_on_a_Stick
@Garry: bc is bloat!
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E485:~$ echo $((38+4+13))
55
E485:~$
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-08 03:25
by sickpig
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Only 55% of the respondents in this poll have any balls
yet just one deek
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-08 09:03
by Bloom
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_,met$$$$$gg. bloom@zilversteen
,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P. -----------------
,g$$P" """Y$$.". OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64
,$$P' `$$$. Model: MS-7B86 1.0
',$$P ,ggs. `$$b: Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64
`d$$' ,$P"' . $$$ Uptime: 19 days, 17 hours, 39 minutes
$$P d$' , $$P Packages: 2365 (dpkg)
$$: $$. - ,d$$' Shell: bash 5.0.3
$$; Y$b._ _,d$P' Resolution: 1920x1080
Y$$. `.`"Y$$$$P"' DE: Xfce
`$$b "-.__ WM: Xfwm4
`Y$$ WM Theme: pcc_kazloru
`Y$$. Theme: CleanIce-Marble [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3]
`$$b. Icons: oxygen [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3]
`Y$$b. Terminal: xfce4-terminal
`"Y$b._ Terminal Font: Monospace 11
`""" CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (12) @ 3.600GHz
GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM
Memory: 9983MiB / 32184MiB
I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-08 14:51
by 4D696B65
Bloom wrote:Code: Select all
_,met$$$$$gg. bloom@zilversteen
,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P. -----------------
,g$$P" """Y$$.". OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64
I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.
Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster and yours is sid?
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_,met$$$$$gg. mike@G752
,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P. ---------
,g$$P" """Y$$.". OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64
,$$P' `$$$. Host: G752VL 1.0
',$$P ,ggs. `$$b: Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-08 16:21
by Bloom
I didn't like that for Sid, so I edited /etc/os-release to look like this:
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bloom@zilversteen:~$ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="10"
VERSION="10 (sid)"
VERSION_CODENAME=sid
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-08 17:47
by Head_on_a_Stick
4D696B65 wrote:Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster
The *fetch programs draw that information from /etc/os-release:
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E485:~$ dpkg -S /etc/os-release
base-files: /etc/os-release
E485:~$
The base-files package has just been updated in preparation for the Debian 10.0 release, your sid boxen will regain their identity when bullseye is created and a new base-files version is released for testing/unstable.
Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?
Posted: 2019-06-12 01:46
by sickpig