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Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-08 09:03
by Bloom

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          bloom@zilversteen 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Model: MS-7B86 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 19 days, 17 hours, 39 minutes 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2365 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: pcc_kazloru 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: CleanIce-Marble [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: oxygen [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 11 
              `"""            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (12) @ 3.600GHz 
                              GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM 
                              Memory: 9983MiB / 32184MiB 
I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-08 14:51
by 4D696B65
Bloom wrote:

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          bloom@zilversteen 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid) x86_64 

I'm running Sid on my desktop. Have been for several years. No problems whatsoever. So I don't need to upgrade to Buster, I already have it.
Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster and yours is sid?

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          mike@G752 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       --------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: G752VL 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-08 16:21
by Bloom
I didn't like that for Sid, so I edited /etc/os-release to look like this:

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bloom@zilversteen:~$ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (sid)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="10"
VERSION="10 (sid)"
VERSION_CODENAME=sid
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-08 17:47
by Head_on_a_Stick
4D696B65 wrote:Strange, all my sid boxes say Buster
The *fetch programs draw that information from /etc/os-release:

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E485:~$ dpkg -S /etc/os-release                                                           
base-files: /etc/os-release
E485:~$
The base-files package has just been updated in preparation for the Debian 10.0 release, your sid boxen will regain their identity when bullseye is created and a new base-files version is released for testing/unstable.

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-12 01:46
by sickpig

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-12 07:32
by Wheelerof4te

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-13 17:30
by debian-2019
There should be a choice in the poll where it says: "I already upgraded to Buster, no need to wait for the launch date"

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-13 17:40
by Soul Singin'
debian-2019 wrote:There should be a choice in the poll where it says: "I already upgraded to Buster, no need to wait for the launch date"
I believe that option falls into the "crap post commenting how this poll could be better" category.

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-06-14 12:09
by None1975
I will wait a few months and then i will upgrade all of my machines. There is nothing in a hurry. In addition, Debian Stretch works great.

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-06 19:22
by theblueplll
debian-2019 wrote:There should be a choice in the poll where it says: "I already upgraded to Buster, no need to wait for the launch date"
Did this about a month ago LoL

Actually was a fresh install not an upgrade but whatever.

Have had no problems with anything that I use daily.

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-06 22:03
by Deb-fan
Voted new shiny software syndrome. Which is tongue in cheek, latest Debian stable isn't that. If that were truly the goal would still be tracking unstable/Sid, in my experience was anything but unstable always ran great. From a personal user perspective, why not at least current official stable? People with actual production applications could easily feel differently. Just cause it's not the latest stable release doesn't mean it quits being a great rock solid OS.

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-06 23:27
by sickpig
I am now daunted with learning differences between stretch and buster. I believe changes were made to auto untenanted upgrades amongst other changes. Will have to read through the 'read this before upgrade' document :)

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-07 00:21
by sunrat
The moment it's launched has passed.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=142569

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-07 00:32
by cds60601

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$ neofetch
  `.::///+:/-.        --///+//-:``    chris@raspberrypi 
 `+oooooooooooo:   `+oooooooooooo:    ----------------- 
  /oooo++//ooooo:  ooooo+//+ooooo.    OS: Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) armv7l 
  `+ooooooo:-:oo-  +o+::/ooooooo:     Host: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Rev 1.2 
   `:oooooooo+``    `.oooooooo+-      Kernel: 4.19.42-v7+ 
     `:++ooo/.        :+ooo+/.`       Uptime: 58 mins 
        ...`  `.----.` ``..           Packages: 1881 (dpkg) 
     .::::-``:::::::::.`-:::-`        Shell: sh 
    -:::-`   .:::::::-`  `-:::-       Terminal: /dev/pts/0 
   `::.  `.--.`  `` `.---.``.::`      CPU: BCM2835 (4) @ 1.200GHz 
       .::::::::`  -::::::::` `       Memory: 104MiB / 926MiB 
 .::` .:::::::::- `::::::::::``::.
-:::` ::::::::::.  ::::::::::.`:::-                           
::::  -::::::::.   `-::::::::  ::::
-::-   .-:::-.``....``.-::-.   -::-
 .. ``       .::::::::.     `..`..
   -:::-`   -::::::::::`  .:::::`
   :::::::` -::::::::::` :::::::.
   .:::::::  -::::::::. ::::::::
    `-:::::`   ..--.`   ::::::.
      `...`  `...--..`  `...`
            .::::::::::
             `.-::::-`

$ 

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-07 20:02
by Bloom

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$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (sid) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Model: MS-7B86 1.0 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 21 days, 5 hours, 43 minutes 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2374 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: pcc_kazloru 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: CleanIce-Marble [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: oxygen [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 11 
              `"""            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (12) @ 3.600GHz 
                              GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM 
                              Memory: 11091MiB / 32184MiB

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-08 05:30
by NFT5
I did, from RC-1, on two separate installations in this machine.

So far absolutely no problems with either although I may proceed with the KDE install simply because Dolphin works the way it should there.

Comparison of RAM use is interesting. I thought KDE would be a bit lighter than XFCE. No issue though, I have plenty.

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chris@BOSSDESK:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          chris@BOSSDESK 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Uptime: 2 mins 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Packages: 2566 (dpkg) 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Resolution: 1920x1080, 1080x1920 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      DE: KDE 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         WM: KWin 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM Theme: oxygen 
  `Y$$                        Theme: Aritim-Dark [KDE], Breeze [GTK2/3] 
   `Y$$.                      Icons: Breeze Chameleon Dark [KDE], breeze [GTK2/3] 
     `$$b.                    Terminal: konsole 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal Font: Hack 10 
          `"Y$b._             CPU: AMD FX-6300 (6) @ 3.500GHz 
              `"""            GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 210 
                              Memory: 620MiB / 7945MiB
                              
                              
chris@BOSSDESK:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          chris@BOSSDESK 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Uptime: 12 mins 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Packages: 2244 (dpkg) 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Resolution: 1920x1080, 1080x1920 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      DE: Xfce 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         WM: Xfwm4 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM Theme: Breeze 
  `Y$$                        Theme: Raleigh [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
   `Y$$.                      Icons: gnome-brave [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
          `"Y$b._             CPU: AMD FX-6300 (6) @ 3.500GHz 
              `"""            GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 210 
                              Memory: 488MiB / 7945MiB                              

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-08 12:38
by CwF
Only my vm base is 100%

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user@buster:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          user@buster 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       --------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) pc-q35-2.8) 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-4-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 29 secs 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1359 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1200 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Default-xhdpi 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Xfce-curve [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Tango [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Noto Mono 14 
              `"""            CPU: Intel Xeon E312xx (Sandy Bridge) (2) @ 3.199GHz 
                              GPU: Red Hat, Inc. QXL paravirtual graphic card 
                              Memory: 353MiB / 1995MiB 

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-08 17:44
by None1975
I made a clean install

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neofetch 
       _,met$$$$$gg.          mindaugas@mate 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: EX58-UD3R 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 2 hours, 48 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1481 (dpkg), 3 (flatpak) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: MATE 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Metacity (Marco) 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: GreenLaguna 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: GreenLaguna [GTK2/3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Papirus-Light [GTK2/3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: mate-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Noto Mono 13 
              `"""            CPU: Intel i7 920 (8) @ 2.793GHz 
                              GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 
                              Memory: 1851MiB / 3944MiB 

Re: upgrade to Buster the moment its launched?

Posted: 2019-07-09 16:47
by debian-2019
Also did clean installs (one Xfce official, and one Cinnamon non-free) on my multiboot machine:

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       _,met$$$$$gg.          user@debian10 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ------------------ 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: G41M-ES2L 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 17 hours, 18 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1753 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1600x900 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Default 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Xfce [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Tango [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
              `"""            CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 (4) @ 2.667GHz 
                              GPU: Intel 4 Series Chipset 
                              Memory: 1968MiB / 3911MiB