Scheduled Maintenance: We are aware of an issue with Google, AOL, and Yahoo services as email providers which are blocking new registrations. We are trying to fix the issue and we have several internal and external support tickets in process to resolve the issue. Please see: viewtopic.php?t=158230

 

 

 

Should Debian 10 default to Wayland?

Here you can discuss every aspect of Debian. Note: not for support requests!
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
oswaldkelso
df -h | grep > 20TiB
df -h | grep > 20TiB
Posts: 1490
Joined: 2005-07-26 23:20
Location: UK
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Should Debian 10 default to Wayland?

#16 Post by oswaldkelso »

Hoas. Thanks for your replys. I'm still not convinced that wayland is ready for Debian stable but somewhat reasured I won't be effected by it at least for the next few years. Time will tell. As for bloat! It's not libreoffice that's bloated it's the browser :-)

2.1 MiB + 554.5 KiB = 2.7 MiB icewm
2.1 MiB + 844.0 KiB = 2.9 MiB tint2
3.2 MiB + 100.0 KiB = 3.3 MiB hald
3.7 MiB + 276.5 KiB = 3.9 MiB dhclient (2)
2.4 MiB + 1.7 MiB = 4.1 MiB lilyterm
3.6 MiB + 621.0 KiB = 4.2 MiB wicd-monitor
4.7 MiB + 639.0 KiB = 5.3 MiB wicd
8.5 MiB + 486.0 KiB = 9.0 MiB bash (4)
9.4 MiB + 7.3 MiB = 16.8 MiB Xorg
65.1 MiB + 2.3 MiB = 67.4 MiB soffice.bin
251.0 MiB + 9.0 MiB = 260.1 MiB seamonkey
---------------------------------
410.7 MiB
=================================
bash-4.3#

This is the minus bloat version http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 68#p698768
Free Software Matters
Ash init durbatulûk, ash init gimbatul,
Ash init thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
My oldest used PC: 1999 imac 333Mhz 256MB PPC abandoned by Debian

User avatar
Head_on_a_Stick
Posts: 14114
Joined: 2014-06-01 17:46
Location: London, England
Has thanked: 81 times
Been thanked: 132 times

Re: Should Debian 10 default to Wayland?

#17 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

oswaldkelso wrote: 3.2 MiB + 100.0 KiB = 3.3 MiB hald
The 1980s called — they want their hardware enumeration software back :mrgreen:

But seriously: very impressive, well done.
deadbang

Wheelerof4te
Posts: 1454
Joined: 2015-08-30 20:14

Re: Should Debian 10 default to Wayland?

#18 Post by Wheelerof4te »

I have here a perfectly usable Sway with swaybg and Waybar, all running on Buster. Standard config for any i3wm user. The only newer compile lib you need so far is json-c, but it's easy to build.

Best things about Waybar are that it's using nearly identical syntax to i3status, it comes with sane default config file, with added bonus of having tray icons.
As a reminder, GNOME doesn't have tray icons by default. Sad.

If GNOME on Wayland isn't ready for Buster for you, remember that you have other options.

User avatar
sjukfan
Posts: 386
Joined: 2010-03-01 19:39

Re: Should Debian 10 default to Wayland?

#19 Post by sjukfan »

Depends on how stable Wayland is. Both stable as in "not buggy", but also "stable in development". Will there be large changes in Wayland in the future? If yes, then I say no, it's not suitable to be default. (And yeah, the same goes for Gnome.)
Bullseye amd64, AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Buster amd64, Intel Xeon E3-1240 v3
Sid ppc, PowerPC 7447a
Sid ppc64, PowerPC 970FX

Post Reply