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Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-10 23:06
by sunrat
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Soul Singin' wrote:Then someone decided that we must all be nice to the newbies

Nah, go ahead and flame the little fuckers, it's all good.


I miss dasein. :(

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-10 23:48
by vbrummond
sunrat wrote:I miss dasein. :(

Likewise.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-11 01:36
by GarryRicketson
Maybe it is just me, but what seems to be happening here and with Debian reminds me of what started happening on internet, when AOL started, if any one here remembers that long ago, with the increasing number of windows users, now becoming Debian users, and Debian becoming more like windows every new release, I guess these kind of people are expected.
I will say, though I don't care if any one calls my granddaughter a retard, I am very proud of her, and she won 2nd prize in a competition here, recently
not quite " special olympics", but it is a accomplishment that we are all proud of her, I mean me, her parents, and as well as she is proud of her self.
Actually she types and writes considerably better then some of the members here, in spite of some of her handicaps. But it really burns me up when people use the term "retards", in relation to those that struggle with handicaps, and still do much better then most so called "perfect people".
Getting depressed now, guess that is about it for now.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-11 02:43
by Deb-fan
^@Garry never meant that comment in such a fashion. Was mostly an attempt at a joke to defuse a situation. Am sure your grandkid is a lovely person. No offense was meant, you're obviously a good nixer, keep being that please. Apologize for any offense, wasn't intended as that.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-11 02:55
by sickpig
what a great thread! me loves it :lol:
m just alluding to porcine references
hahahaha
delicious

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-11 11:58
by n_hologram
GarryRicketson wrote:...with the increasing number of windows users, now becoming Debian users...

Devil's advocate stance, but what data are you basing this on? I ask because every time I've tried to get someone using any variant of Linux, they always find some reason to regress to Windows. It's weird to me.

It isn't necessarily a "bad" thing, as it does keep the Linuxsphere from becoming even more saturated. But, this is just my experience.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-13 19:32
by eor2004
sunrat wrote: If you mean Debian, I think Buster is a solid release and I've seen a few people say it's really good. For me as a KDE user, Buster with Plasma 5.14 is definitely the best ever because Plasma 5.14 is the best KDE ever. I've only dabbled with it so far but had no issues and it functions very smoothly.


Don't know why, but unlike your experience, KDE5 (Plasma5) is the only one Debian DE that don't want to play nice on my system, all the other DE or Window Managers works very fine, even Gnome Shell the one I'm using right now works way better than Plasma 5 on my PC. :?

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-14 23:33
by theblueplll
eor2004 wrote:
sunrat wrote: If you mean Debian, I think Buster is a solid release and I've seen a few people say it's really good. For me as a KDE user, Buster with Plasma 5.14 is definitely the best ever because Plasma 5.14 is the best KDE ever. I've only dabbled with it so far but had no issues and it functions very smoothly.


Don't know why, but unlike your experience, KDE5 (Plasma5) is the only one Debian DE that don't want to play nice on my system, all the other DE or Window Managers works very fine, even Gnome Shell the one I'm using right now works way better than Plasma 5 on my PC. :?


You are not alone.

My main machine doesn't like Gnome(which I happen to love) or KDE.

MATE seems to work the best for me on it.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-15 00:20
by stevepusser
I have to agree with many of your points.

Especially when those damn newbies won't get off my lawn!!!! Hey, I just reseeded it!

The median age of the MX Linux devs is actually pretty high--maybe we should call it MX Lawnux.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-21 01:04
by sunrat
Back on MX Lawnux :mrgreen:

I just read a thread there where OP didn't provide hardware info for non-working wifi until the third page, instead posting irrelevant neofetch pastes from another distro. The water was muddied somewhat by "helpers" posting irrelevant advice.
I don't like to discourage people from helping, we've all been at the start of the learning curve at some time, but fairly regularly I see "helping" do exactly the opposite.

While I admire MX a lot and use it as a fallback distro, its forum is becoming a victim of it's own popularity. I still post on topics I may know something about but often it's hard to work out what the problem is through newbies' failure to clearly explain, and the low signal-to-noise ratio from well-intentioned but misguided helpers.
That said, some of the more expert regulars and devs there must have the patience of a saint!

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-21 02:01
by GarryRicketson
Was that thread here , or at MX ? Just wondering, ...Some people, to many as far as that goes, prefer having their hand held, and begging for handouts instead of doing anything for their selves, it is sad really.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-21 02:18
by sunrat
GarryRicketson wrote:Was that thread here , or at MX ?

Back on MX Lawnux :mrgreen:

I just read a thread there...


I try to prioritise the "teach a person to fish" approach rather than "give the person a fish" but it sometimes ends up somewhere in between. If I do a web search to find an answer, I will include how I did the web search and how I found the pertinent info from which I based the web search such as finding the device ID with lsusb/lspci. Spoon feeding is a poor approach to giving help and encourages help vampires.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-21 03:19
by GarryRicketson
I never even noticed :"I just read a thread there...", guess I need to read more carefully :oops:

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-21 03:28
by sickpig
GarryRicketson wrote:Was that thread here , or at MX ? Just wondering, ...Some people, to many as far as that goes, prefer having their hand held, and begging for handouts instead of doing anything for their selves, it is sad really.


dont do it then.
as it is ur answers are waste. has the op searched or has the op done this. and then the inevitable list of man page references.
y bother answering if u cant offer a solution?

forum would be a better place without bird poop.

Re: Is it just me...

PostPosted: 2019-07-21 09:46
by Head_on_a_Stick
sickpig wrote:as it is ur answers are waste. has the op searched or has the op done this. and then the inevitable list of man page references.
y bother answering if u cant offer a solution?

But what if the solution is readily available in the man pages or a simple interweb search? Are we supposed to retype that shit out for the lazy bastard OP?