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Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian?

Posted: 2019-08-25 22:10
by kedaha
Over the years a number of packages have ceased to be maintained or have been replaced, like Open Office by LibreOffice.
And of course my favourite of all time: oss4, the open sound system, formerly oss, replaced by the ubiquitous ALSA/Pulseaudio; nevertheless, I continue to use it in Buster.

As for software for servers:Squirrelmail, which ceased to be maintained both upstream and downstream. The only remaining squirrelmail is in oldoldstable, jessie. It seems that everyone now uses roundcube but for webmail I liked Squirrelmail for its simplicity.

Then I remember dolibarr, which went out a long time ago from Debian just when was getting interested in it.

Then there's a whole list of orphaned packages.

Thanks for reading and for any comments.

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 02:30
by sunrat
I can't think of anything right now, then my memory is not what it used to be 15 years ago when I first used Debian.
One thing I do miss, even though it's still technically available, is Amarok. In KDE4 it was one of the best music players available. Unfortunately it hasn't been updated to work properly on KDE5 and some functions are not what they used to be. It's still pretty good but one deal breaker for me is its ReplayGain implementation. I use ReplayGain for all my audio files but now in Amarok it kicks in 1-2 seconds after the song starts playing causing a noticeable level change. How annoying!
I now use DeadBeef or Strawberry (Clementine fork) both of which are not in Debian but their project pages supply .debs which work fine. I also use Audacious regularly which is in the repos.

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 08:29
by NFT5
gksu

A panel based weather applet that actually works. :(

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 09:22
by Hallvor
Amarok and nzbget :cry:

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 12:35
by kedaha
Hallvor wrote:Amarok and nzbget :cry:
I hadn't come across nzbget, a "command-line based binary newsgrabber for nzb files" (although the web UI is not available), which I see is available from unstable:

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$ rmadison nzbget |grep unstable
nzbget     | 21.0+dfsg-2   | unstable       | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
nzbget     | 21.0+dfsg-2   | unstable-debug | source
The version in sid can be easily backported from sid to stable:

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root@debian:~# apt-get build-dep nzbget
Reading package lists... Done
E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
So after adding (in my case):

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# echo "deb-src http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian unstable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update
(It's best to make a new directory for the next step):

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$ apt-get build-dep nzbget

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Reading package lists... Done
NOTICE: 'nzbget' packaging is maintained in the 'Git' version control system at:
https://salsa.debian.org/amoog-guest/nzbget.git
Please use:
git clone https://salsa.debian.org/amoog-guest/nzbget.git
to retrieve the latest (possibly unreleased) updates to the package.
Need to get 1,130 kB of source archives.
And the process goes on until it's built. Once that's done the ls command shows:

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$ ls
nzbget-21.0+dfsg                    nzbget_21.0+dfsg-2.debian.tar.xz
nzbget_21.0+dfsg-2_amd64.buildinfo  nzbget_21.0+dfsg-2.dsc
nzbget_21.0+dfsg-2_amd64.changes    nzbget_21.0+dfsg.orig.tar.xz
nzbget_21.0+dfsg-2_amd64.deb        nzbget-dbgsym_21.0+dfsg-2_amd64.deb
Whereupon the package can be installed thus:

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$ su -c "dpkg -i nzbget_21.0+dfsg-2_amd64.deb"
If dpkg -i or gdebi misses the Gtk3 module then:

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$ su -c "apt install libgtk3-perl"

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 14:43
by wizard10000
Only thing I have that's no longer in Debian is easymp3gain. I still use it so I guess I don't miss it :)

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 18:15
by anticapitalista
xmms audio player plus its plugins

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 18:17
by Hallvor
kedaha: Thanks, that is a good tip!

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 18:42
by 4D696B65
anticapitalista wrote:xmms audio player plus its plugins
+1

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 19:15
by Bulkley
NFT5 wrote:gksu
+1.

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 22:24
by oswaldkelso
xcalendar I really loved how it saved your daily events as plain text. Though last time I tried it on Debian it still installed and ran fine I suspect that would have been a wheezy install. iirc I did see it on a more recent show your desktop post but forget who was running it.

I've tried to build it from scratch for Dragora but failed miserably as it used a very old method to compile.

Anyway it did all I wanted from a calendar. Small, fast, easy to use and saved to plain text

http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/m ... ndar-i18n/

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-26 23:08
by djk44883
These are listed, in synaptic, as local or obsolete, since they're installed, I don't miss them yet...

gksu - I don't have wayland, someday if/when I'm forced to do way with gksu[do] I'm going to really be struggling.

leafpad - it's not my primary editor. Sometimes caja won't open "text" files and yet leafpad has no problems.

me-tv - this is so simple and straight forward TV viewing/DVR program. Kind of when to the wayside with the uprising of streaming.

gprename - it's in Buster, but this system is Bullseye. It's just quick and easy.

If I had a system I couldn't use synaptic I'd miss that. Having to relearn fundamental operations is a PITA.

Current version of firefox bounces from sid to none to experimental to none to sid, I miss it getting updated with the system instead of it's popups telling me.

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-27 09:50
by wizard10000
anticapitalista wrote:xmms audio player plus its plugins
4D696B65 wrote:+1
I use qmmp, which appears to be almost everything the old xmms was - even uses my favorite winamp2 skin :)

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-27 11:09
by kedaha
oswaldkelso wrote:xcalendar I really loved how it saved your daily events as plain text. Though last time I tried it on Debian it still installed and ran fine I suspect that would have been a wheezy install. iirc I did see it on a more recent show your desktop post but forget who was running it.
http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/m ... ndar-i18n/
@oswaldkelso: Well, I downloaded xcalendar from the archive link you gave and it installed fine in buster. To find the dependencies:

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user@debian:~/Downloads$ dpkg -I xcalendar* |grep -i depends
 Pre-Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0)
 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libice6, libsm6, libx11-6, libxaw7, libxext6, libxmu6, libxt6
No launcher is created in the mate-desktop though but ALT F2 and tryping in xcalendar starts it. But it's easy enough to add it to the mate menu whence it can be launched with:
/usr/bin/xcalendar
It'll be useful. Cheers!

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-28 04:31
by PhilGil
gnome-schedule. It's not like setting up a cron job is hard, but I'm a sucker for GUI programs that save me from having to look up the syntax for things I don't do very often.

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-29 02:13
by eor2004
wizard10000 wrote:Only thing I have that's no longer in Debian is easymp3gain. I still use it so I guess I don't miss it :)
+1

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-29 04:25
by rivenathos
I may be the lone ranger here, but I sorely miss Guayadeque Music Player being in the official repositories.

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-29 06:12
by sunrat
rivenathos wrote:I may be the lone ranger here, but I sorely miss Guayadeque Music Player being in the official repositories.
I don't think it was ever in the repos. You can't miss something you never had! :mrgreen:

Good player though. I use DeadBeef mainly which is also not in the repos. It does a great job of processing and tagging ReplayGain for those who "miss" mp3gain.

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-29 06:35
by kedaha
sunrat wrote:I don't think it [Guayadeque Music Player] was ever in the repos. You can't miss something you never had! :mrgreen:
Ỳes it was!
Using rmadison to query the Debian archive database:

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rmadison guayadeque
guayadeque | 0.3.7~ds0-2.1 | oldoldstable | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386

Re: Is there any software you miss that used to be in Debian

Posted: 2019-08-29 16:34
by sunrat
I stand corrected.
Linux is definitely not short of alternative music players. :wink: