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GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby pylkko » 2020-04-03 05:30

Because there have been multiple posts about using the mach/hurd kernel on Debian, maybe this is of interest to some here:

https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2020/deprecat ... ux-kernel/
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Re: GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-04-03 09:05

Shouldn't you have posted this on the 1st of April? :mrgreen:

Good one though... :lol:
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Re: GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby pylkko » 2020-04-03 11:58

Multiple commentators have pointed out that despite this occurring on Arpil first, there actually appears to be real work on the branches in the repository etc. Although, I do admit that I have not had time to verify any of that myself

EDIT:

the summary page lists hurd branch change 4 days ago here:
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/

it has some commits
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix. ... h=wip-hurd

fairly low activity though
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Re: GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-04-03 12:18

pylkko wrote:there actually appears to be real work on the branches in the repository

Is that not just part of their work to support Hurd?

Anyway GUIX is a bit of a dead-end (IMO), all the trendy types use Nix these days.
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Re: GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby oswaldkelso » 2020-04-03 17:59

I thought guix was a fork of nix Just with support for gnu shepherd. I have an install so in their irc channel and I seem to recall someone booting hurd. Because a lot of Hurd development is on Debian Hurd I saw there was talk of Debian Guix packages. All very interesting stuff imo.
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Re: GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby pylkko » 2020-04-03 18:47

If we take the notice that they pass with face value and presume that it is not a joke (April fools), there they say specifically that while they have developed the package manager in the past with support for both their deblobbed linux kernel (linux libre) and the sing Hurd since 2017 in the guix and possibly the SD distribution. They from now on wish to only "officially" support hurd et al. and not linux. The linux support wont be dropped, just deprecated and not maintained. It might be a sign of the fact that they 1) do no want to maintain multiple distinct kernels and 2) decided to specialize in a more narrow niche where other players aren't playing, so to speak
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Re: GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby oswaldkelso » 2020-04-03 19:17

While there apparently was a big thread on guix-dev about Hurd (I've not read it) They're a very long way off dropping Gnu/linux joke or not.
edit. Joke confirmed :mrgreen:
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Re: GNU actually deprecates linux on GUIX

Postby LE_746F6D617A7A69 » 2020-05-28 20:35

The HURD micro-kernel architecture offers few interesting features - for Me, the most interesting is this one:
Computer_bought_the_farm

Besides that, since open source GFX drivers are about to be as good as the closed-source versions, I think that in few years the HURD kernel may indeed become a real alternative to Linux kernel.

Of course, binary firmware blobs are still a problem...
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