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Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby craigevil » 2010-05-15 20:41

#581704 - sysvinit: Failing to run init script (or ordering problem) after upgrade from startpar to makefile - Debian Bug report logs
(at bugs.debian.org)

For those that have sidux in their sources.list:
No Dist-Upgrade! (Updated) :: sidux.com :: debian based live cd development
Here the background: http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/ ... table.html and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581704

Fixes:

A) You did not dist-upgrade yet

It’s safe again to dist-upgrade for you, as slh has added a fixed package into the sidux repository.

B) You dist-upgraded without the fixed package

You need to edit concurrency setting

sed -i "/^CONCURRENCY\=/d" /etc/default/rcS

C) You already rebooted, and find your system hangs in the boot process

Boot again with cheat code 1 (gets you into runlevel 1), press Crtl+D when asked, and apply the fix B).

Your system will boot normally again after that.


Either wait, do the sed thing , or install the fixed sidux packages.

For those that use smxi:
smxi checks for sidux sources if it doesn't find sidux in your sources.list it implements the sed fix after dist-upgrade is complete.
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid

Postby mzilikazi » 2010-05-15 21:01

So did you learn the hard way like I did?
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid

Postby Burnside » 2010-05-15 21:02

Auuugh... too late.

At least there's a fix. For people who aren't clear on what the sed script above does, it simply removes the CONNCURENCY line from /etc/default/rcS. This forces sysvinit to use a setting that will boot properly.
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid

Postby craigevil » 2010-05-15 21:05

mzilikazi wrote:So did you learn the hard way like I did?


No saw the bug said whatever, went ahead and did apt-get dist-upgrade then just a few minutes ago h2 asked me about it in #smxi, I did apt-get update and the sidux packages showed up. Weird crap like this is the only reason I keep sidux in my sources,list.

The bug didn't bite me since I rarely reboot.
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid

Postby milomak » 2010-05-15 21:19

Ha. Pressed Y by mistake after seeing the bug. Have not rebooted but all is still well at the moment.

I guess I will sed.
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid

Postby bugsbunny » 2010-05-16 00:07

I've been running with CONCURRENCY=makefile for a while now - and that apparently isn't effected. For more on all this (and a patch has already been uploaded to unstable, it's available in primary mirrors - may take some time to make it to secondary ones) see the following:
#581704 - sysvinit: Failing to run init script (or ordering problem) after upgrade from startpar to makefile - Debian Bug report logs

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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid

Postby craigevil » 2010-05-16 01:06

The fixed packages have been uploaded to Debian mirrors.
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Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby llivv » 2010-05-17 16:15

did sidux actually add a CONCURRENCY "startpar" "shell" entry to /etc/default/rcS?
did it add any parallelism to boot? liquoix
Bugs, did you notice any difference with makefile?
I didn't...
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby craigevil » 2010-05-17 17:26

/etc/default/rcS
#
# /etc/default/rcS
#
# Default settings for the scripts in /etc/rcS.d/
#
# For information about these variables see the rcS(5) manual page.
#
# This file belongs to the "initscripts" package.

TMPTIME=0
SULOGIN=no
DELAYLOGIN=no
UTC=no
VERBOSE=no
FSCKFIX=no
RAMRUN=no
RAMLOCK=no

Other than when I boot it saying something about starting in something using makefile in run level S. I haven't noticed any difference.
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby llivv » 2010-05-17 19:27

thanks
I see that message now right after
INIT: Entering runlevel:
and at shutdown it shows up as well....

you can change the style to either startpar-style or makefile-style concurrent boot....
both startpar and shell give startpar-style
and makefile gives makefile-style

And I don't notice any difference in the way the scripts are loaded, either...
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby mauser1891 » 2010-05-27 09:47

Hello Folks,


I find it interesting that I find a post on sidux, and AbsentMind gets on me about "advertise
n" sidux. I did apply a corrected post after my inital one, providing more substantial information.
I am amused now... :lol:

Sorry to burst your bubble but as nice as Sidux may be it is it's own distro and although based on Debian, it is not actually Debian.

Now to look at your post from a differnt angle. Advertisement for something not approved by administration is concidered spam. As your post is (as stated by you) to promote (advertise) Sidux. Who gave you authorzation to advertise it here? Or should I concider your users account one use for spamming and eliminate you ability to post?


I do appreciate the sid/sidux update notice though. I forget to check current deployment statuses.
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby pete_m » 2010-08-22 03:18

Thanks to all Debian developers and debuggers. Petter Reinholdtsen who looks after sysviinit
eg. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581704

I found this thread helpful while pursuing an upgrade path from Ubuntu Karmic->Lucid -> DebianSid.
For a while after eliminating upstart I had to hold syssvinit at 2.67 because of LSB problems,

These have now disappeared and I've set concurrency to makefile .. whiich I unnderstand is the mechanism by which iniit scripts can signal their dependencies when defining the boot sequence.

My apt sources list and preferences attempts to be ( Debian)flavour agnostic. - it points to debian, ubuntu & sidux repos as well as a bunch of Launchpad PPA's

The system is pinned to Sid - but with occasional forays into Ubuntu Maverick - for instance to grab the latest 2.6.35 kernel- which helped overcome my last WiFi problems.

Screenshotss of work in progress at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoI4wRVVjBs
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby craigevil » 2010-08-22 03:26

Get rid of the Ubuntu repos in your sources.list, if you need a newer kernel than what is in the Debian repos use the liquorix kernel.

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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby pete_m » 2010-08-22 05:55

craigevil wrote:Get rid of the Ubuntu repos in your sources.list,
If you need a newer kernel than what is in the Debian repos use the liquorix kernel.

Thanks for that tip Craig - what specific reasons are there for getting rid of Ubu reoos ?
Given that I shall keep a close watch on further upgrades
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Re: Do not upgrade Debian Sid[Solved]

Postby craigevil » 2010-08-22 06:50

Search the forum here and at linuxquestions.org, Ubuntu is not binary compatible with Debian, The depends can be different, where things get installed can be different, version numbers can be different, any number of things which can easily destroy a working Debian system.

There are very few packages that Ubuntu are in the Ubuntu repos that aren't in a Debian repo. If you can't find something look at the Giant sources.list in my signature.
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