Dist-upgrade to Sid

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Lou · #1 Post by **Lou** » 2006-06-27 21:09

I just wanted to report that i did a dist-upgrade from Sarge to Sid, and that it went without a hiccup. It told me to purge hotplug, udev took over. I installed the latest 2.6 kernel, erased the old one and xf86config-4 with debfoster, cleaned it up with deborphan (long list of crud), apt-get clean, and that was it. No problem at all with xorg as i see hapenning with Etch, installed 'apt-listbugs'. The amount of used space in my hd went down to 682 MB.

Heck, if this continues like this, i might hang around the flyboys.

I report this in case somebody is thinking about doing it.

Edit: I forgot to mention, the xorg version installed is 7.0.17

DeanLinkous · #2 Post by **DeanLinkous** » 2006-06-27 22:12

Great info! WOW! Ahhhh the power of apt

bluesdog · #3 Post by **bluesdog** » 2006-06-27 23:39

...the xorg version installed is 7.0.17

Hmm. When I do apt-cache policy xserver-xorg I get

xserver-xorg:
Installed: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6
Candidate: 1:7.0.22
Version table:
1:7.0.22 0
991 http://mirror.direct.ca etch/main Packages
800 http://mirror.direct.ca sid/main Packages
*** 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

From where did you get 7.0.17

I've been holding off from doing a dist-upgrade because of the recent xorg weirdness....
I'd like to stay with etch, but when I do a simulation it looks kind of, well, scary, and seems to want to install a lot of xserver stuff for graphics cards I don't have.
I'm also not sure what, if anything, it will do to my nvidia setup. I hate having to reconfigure x!

Grifter · #4 Post by **Grifter** » 2006-06-28 00:27

well if you do, and x refuses to start because it can't find the nvidia module anymore, sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run --uninstall and then, sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/

that should cover all bases, in case it breaks (:

Lou · #5 Post by **Lou** » 2006-06-28 00:42

luigi@debian:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.16-1-686 #2 Thu May 4 18:22:23 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
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luigi@debian:~$ dpkg -l
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Description

ii xorg 7.0.17 X.Org X Window System
rc xserver-common 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 files and utilities common to all X servers
ii xserver-xorg 7.0.17 the X.Org X server
ii xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-8 X.Org X server -- core server
ii xserver-xorg-input-all 7.0.17 the X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage
ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1.0.1.3-2 X.Org X server -- keyboard input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1.0.4-2 X.Org X server -- mouse input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-synapt 0.14.4-5 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org/XFree86 server
ii xserver-xorg-input-wacom 0.7.3.1-2 X.Org X server -- wacom input driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-all 7.0.17 the X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage
ii xserver-xorg-video-apm 1.0.1.5-2 X.Org X server -- APM display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-ark 0.5.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- ark display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.5.8.0-1 X.Org X server -- ATI display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-chips 1.0.1.3-3 X.Org X server -- Chips display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-cirrus 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- Cirrus display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-cyrix 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- Cyrix display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-dummy 0.1.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- dummy display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 0.1.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-glint 1.0.1.3-3 X.Org X server -- Glint display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-i128 1.1.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- i128 display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-i740 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- i740 display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-i810 1.5.1.0-2 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-imstt 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- IMSTT display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-mga 1.2.1.3.dfsg.1-2 X.Org X server -- MGA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-neomag 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- Neomagic display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-newpor 0.1.4.1-3 X.Org X server -- Newport display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-nsc 2.7.6.5-2 X.Org X server -- NSC display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-nv 1.0.1.5-2 X.Org X server -- NV display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-rendit 4.0.1.3.dfsg.1-2 X.Org X server -- Rendition display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-s3 0.3.5.4-3 X.Org X server -- legacy S3 display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-s3virg 1.8.6.5-2 X.Org X server -- S3 ViRGE display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-savage 2.0.2.3-4 X.Org X server -- Savage display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-silico 1.3.1.5-3 X.Org X server -- SiliconMotion display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-sis 0.8.1.3-2 X.Org X server -- SiS display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-sisusb 0.7.1.3-2 X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-tdfx 1.1.1.3-3 X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-tga 1.0.0.5-3 X.Org X server -- TGA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-triden 1.0.1.2-2 X.Org X server -- Trident display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-tseng 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- Tseng display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-v4l 0.0.1.5-1 X.Org X server -- Video 4 Linux display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1.0.1.3-2 X.Org X server -- VESA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-vga 4.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- VGA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-via 0.1.33.2-3 X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 10.11.1.3-2 X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-voodoo 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X server -- Voodoo display driver

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luigi@debian:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://debian.savoirfairelinux.net/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
#deb-src http://debian.savoirfairelinux.net/debian/ sid main non-free contrib

#Marillat's multimedia
#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main

#Debian Unofficial
deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free restricted
#deb-src http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free restricted

DeanLinkous · #6 Post by **DeanLinkous** » 2006-06-28 00:50

looks like your mirror is a bit behind afaik 7.0.22 is in etch and sid....

Lou · #7 Post by **Lou** » 2006-06-28 01:05

DeanLinkous wrote: looks like your mirror is a bit behind afaik 7.0.22 is in etch and sid....

For a guy used to working in Sarge, this is not important, i'll wait till they get their stuff together.

DeanLinkous · #8 Post by **DeanLinkous** » 2006-06-28 02:37

not cracking on ya....apologies if it seemed like I was
Still impressed that it worked without a hiccup!

Lou · #9 Post by **Lou** » 2006-06-28 03:03

DeanLinkous wrote: not cracking on ya....apologies if it seemed like I was
Still impressed that it worked without a hiccup!

No worries, mate!

I spoke too soon, i can't shut it down automatically, i have to do it manually

Oh well, no biggie, tomorrow i'll hit google first thing in the morning.

Another thing, IceWM and Fluxbox upgraded beautifully, except Ion3, the maintainer hasn't dealt with the Debian menu.

I've been playing with Sid and my apps since this evening and everything works great. I tried to install synaptic but apt-listbugs told me 'no can do, 8 bugs', so for the first time in my life, i tried aptitude, not bad!

So far, Sid hasn't disappointed me, i thought it was gonna be bad.

bluesdog · #10 Post by **bluesdog** » 2006-06-28 07:52

Woo hoo!

[alj@debbie:~]$ uname -a
Linux debbie 2.6.16-2-k7 #1 Wed Jun 21 18:43:32 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux

[alj@debbie:~]$ dpkg -l xorg
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Description
+++-======================-===================
ii xorg 7.0.22 X.Org X Window System

All seems working...
All I had to do was clear out a couple files from /usr/X11R6/bin/
Life is good

Lou · #11 Post by **Lou** » 2006-06-28 15:59

The automatic shutdown is fixed, still looking for errors...

Foxmuldar · #12 Post by **Foxmuldar** » 2006-06-30 20:54

Lou , what is the difference between Sarge and Sid?

Lou · #13 Post by **Lou** » 2006-06-30 23:10

Sid is NOT for newbies, you're expected to know the basics in order to fix what might go wrong or at least understand what they're talking about in the forums.

If you're a newbie, stay with Sarge, read the HOWTOs in the doc section of this site, install the debian reference and study it. And only then, make your move; otherwise, you're gonna be pestering people, because it will be over your head.

OTOH, Sid has newer apps, some buggy, you will have a very modern distro who by definition is not stable. If during the dist-upgrade there is stuff you don't understand, you ain't ready, bud. Your move.

I'm trying to be honest with you and not give you the rah, rah, bullshit some fanboys do.

I might go back to Sarge if something pisses me off, there is something peaceful & efficient about a distro version that always works.

Foxmuldar · #14 Post by **Foxmuldar** » 2006-06-30 23:26

Thanks for the information Lou, it was a great help to make up my mind about going to Sid.

Thanks,
foxmuldar