Give up

[dasein]

Perhaps it's out of line for a relatively new user, but I thought I'd try to help.

I'm merely repeating what I've heard 2nd- and 3rd-hand, but length of time on the board doesn't seem to be a factor: any offer of help, indeed any attempt to communicate with the admins, is met with silence. (See craigevil's posting earlier in the thread.)

[Randicus]

@craigevil
what if you as a last resort consider handing over your complete identity to a successor?

How would he hand over moderator powers that are granted by the administrators? Would a transfer of authority not require the action of those administrators? (Admins who are absent and clearly do not care.)

[dasein]

How would he hand over moderator powers that are granted by the administrators?

By my reading, the method being suggested by subhuman was something along the lines of, "You! Pssst! Yeah, you! C'mere. Got a pencil? Good. Write down this password..."

[nadir]

Perhaps it's out of line for a relatively new user, but I thought I'd try to help.

I'm merely repeating what I've heard 2nd- and 3rd-hand, but length of time on the board doesn't seem to be a factor: any offer of help, indeed any attempt to communicate with the admins, is met with silence. (See craigevil's posting earlier in the thread.)

I have heard that too, but communication in IRC was ok.
But then: i didn't offer myself as a spamhunter or such, it was only bout organizing the beginners guide (not the guide itself , that is mainly work by oswaldkelso, how to put it in the forum had to be organized).
In the end it doesn't matter much to me, just trying to say that each story (2 or 3 hand) has several versions.
Long short: I would try IRC, without expecting too much.

/me waits for the promised viagra links ... and enjoys his simple user status...

[Randicus]

By my reading, the method being suggested by subhuman was something along the lines of, "You! Pssst! Yeah, you! C'mere. Got a pencil? Good. Write down this password..."

If a password is all that is needed, it would be feasible, but would it be a good idea? That is another issue.

[dasein]

...would it be a good idea?

A question that is far above my pay grade. But I believe that subh was "spitballing" ideas.

[nadir]

oh?
Welcome back in the "just-another-linux-user"-group, craigevil.
We wear blue hats. But you know that.

Nope, neither kidding nor sarcasm. Welcome back. I am happy to see you here. Its a good group, if not the best of all. We do what needs to be done, and it is called ( hold your breath here ...): fun.

Mistrust authority — promote decentralization
The best way to promote the free exchange of information is to have an open system that presents no boundaries between a hacker and a piece of information or an item of equipment that he needs in his quest for knowledge,

[BowCatShot]

Maybe they're all being sued and their lawyers told them to clam up.

[cortman]

Perhaps it's out of line for a relatively new user, but I thought I'd try to help.

I'm merely repeating what I've heard 2nd- and 3rd-hand, but length of time on the board doesn't seem to be a factor: any offer of help, indeed any attempt to communicate with the admins, is met with silence. (See craigevil's posting earlier in the thread.)

OK thanks; I was hoping it didn't seem presumptuous.
I'd like to see Debian forums cleaned up and administrated better myself... perhaps "the other one" is the way to go...

[emariz]

I vote for nadir and dasein as new members of the Green Party. They are helpful, both are always around, one has strong beliefs and the other is German.

[dasein]

I vote for nadir and dasein as new members of the Green Party. They are helpful, both are always around, one has strong beliefs and the other is German.

[nadir]

The German Green Party supported all wars Germany has been involved in and mainly re-organized the german welfare system ("agenda 2010"), aka: people die for the reason of being poor again (not immediatly, but in the long run). They got no ideas and no ideals. A bunch of assimilated bastards, getting their piece of the cake. 'Nough said.
Hence your arguing was outstanding: A German, whatever he might be or do or say, is first of all a German ( a German gay, like Westerwelle, is first of all ... you got the idea).

Else? This:
"I can haz freedom?", says kitteh.

I still think craigevil has earned a few more "thanks" for all the time and work he has invested.

[Junichirô]

They got no ideas and no ideals. A bunch of assimilated bastards, getting their piece of the cake. 'Nough said.

Same thing in France!

[emariz]

The German Green Party supported all wars Germany has been involved in

Sure, World War III to clean the fifteen hundred million Chinese, and WW IV against Mars, for green parties are about thirty years old.

Hence your arguing was outstanding: A German, whatever he might be or do or say, is first of all a German ( a German gay, like Westerwelle, is first of all ... you got the idea).

See? You are German.
If I were you, I would start looking for spam already.

[nadir]

The German Green Party supported all wars Germany has been involved in

Sure, World War III to clean the fifteen hundred million Chinese, and WW IV against Mars, for green parties are about thirty years old.

Make fun of it, if you like, it still is the truth of history, backed by wikipedia:

Joschka Fischer became Vice-Chancellor of Germany and foreign minister in the new government, which had two other Green ministers (Andrea Fischer, later Renate Künast, and Jürgen Trittin). Almost immediately the party was plunged into a crisis by the question of German participation in the NATO actions in Kosovo.

In 2001, the party experienced a further crisis as some Green Members of Parliament refused to back the government's plan of sending military personnel to help with the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. Chancellor Gerhard Schröder called a vote of confidence, tying it to his strategy on the war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_% ... first_term
and:

Schröder, in March 2003, reversed his position and proposed a significant downsizing of the welfare state, known as Agenda 2010. He had enough support to overcome opposition from the trade unions and the SPD's left wing. Agenda 2010 had five goals: tax cuts; labor market deregulation, especially relaxing rules protecting workers from dismissal and setting up Hartz concept job training;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_his ... present.29
None of that was done by conservatives, but by a government the Green Party was part of.

No idea what you mean with spam.

[emariz]

None of that was done by conservatives, but by a government the Green Party was part of.

Then your comment about the Green Party being involved in all wars was deceiving. You missed the interesting ones.

No idea what you mean with spam.

- Ein Moderator hat das Amt wegen des Spams niedergelegt.
- Ich habe euch als Moderatorenkandidaten aufgestellt.
- Alle Moderatoren haben grüne Benutzernamen.
Kommt dir jetzt Grüne Partei bekannt vor?

[nadir]

You are right in both points:
a) what i wrote was deceiving (when i wrote it it was clear to me, after you point it out i see the problem); and worse:
b) i didn't understand you meant moderators with Green Party.

I probably heard something in the radio (probably the US- election about which they talk day in and out) and mixed subjects not related to each other.
/me cries in shame ... (lack of phantasy to understand funny posts ... for the life of me i couldn't figure out why you suddenly start with the GreenParty, but i love to have at them. Always)

I barely hear people being able to make use of "genitive" (wegen des Spam). Strange.

[michapma]

Wem sollen wir denn den Spam-Moderator-Hut geben?

Na, dir.

Code: Select all

nano ~/.spamrc

[emariz]

I barely hear people being able to make use of "genitive" (wegen des Spam). Strange.

Ja, aber man lernt die ,,richtigere" (und komische) Sprache als Fremdsprache. Ich sage ,,wegen des Wetters, während des Jahres, statt dieses Kaufes, laut dieses Berichts, innerhalb dieses Monats, dank des Darlehens," uzw.

Wem sollen wir denn den Spam-Moderator-Hut geben?
Na, dir.

Klasse!


Anyway, vote for dasein and the German guy!

[nadir]

I barely hear people being able to make use of "genitive" (wegen des Spam). Strange.

Ja, aber man lernt die ,,richtigere" (und komische) Sprache als Fremdsprache. Ich sage ,,wegen des Wetters, während des Jahres, statt dieses Kaufes, laut dieses Berichts, innerhalb dieses Monats, dank des Darlehens," uzw.

To me it was and is impressesive that you used it, while most Germans are not able to. It is not "en vogue" no more.
Strange meant impressive, not wrong or such.
I assume you understood me that way, but wanted to stress it anyway.
Oh: And i for one love it. It has a nice sound.

crap knows why someone would want to learn German. Otoh any language is fun, i guess. I learned English only cause i didn't know what to read anymore. In English everything, even the Sun, is fun.

"Das mir der Hund das Liebste ist, sagst Du, Oh Mench, sei Sünde.
Der Hund bleibt mir im Sturme treu, der Mensch nicht mal im Winde"
Hope you like it
Translation for others: I like dogs more than anything else. Doesn't hit the nail, but its all i offer you.