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What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1421 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

None1975 wrote:Did you notice that?
Yes, I saw it on lobste.rs a few days ago, I run the edge repositories so my version of apk was already fixed by the time the vulnerability went public.

I don't allow remote access on my box so the bug didn't actually affect me anyway, just all those poor Cloud users :(

Hopefully this will encourage more donations to Alpine because they are very popular at the moment.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1422 Post by oswaldkelso »

I had a play with conky, doesn't work for me as I usually run window maximized and the things I need from it run in my panel anyway. I liked the colour scheme I had though, so mixed a couple themes to match it in icewm. icewm is nice but not handling gaps on workspace borders is a killer for me. It means only half my fittstool launchers work. New release of icewm a few days a go so I should go try it in case it's fixed. or file a bug! I see they added wallpaper switching.

Talking of gaps, i3-gaps Keeps making me think of holes in a boat because it makes absolutely no sense to me at all :mrgreen:

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edit: Bug filled and issue fixed. It turned out to be a bug in fittstool that only occurred if more than 100 characters were used in the launcher line.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1423 Post by bester69 »

bedtime wrote:Image
Amazing :D Future is coming!!, That's how linux system will look like in future, in some few fears. :o
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1424 Post by debiman »

^ no, that's what they thought the future would look like - in 1982.

oswaldkelso wrote:full image
very nice.
what is this weird double panel on the left monitor, is this by design?

is cubic player able to play FLAC, AAC, M4A, OGG etc?
can it stream internet radio?

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#1425 Post by oswaldkelso »

debiman wrote:
oswaldkelso wrote:full image
very nice.
what is this weird double panel on the left monitor, is this by design?

is cubic player able to play FLAC, AAC, M4A, OGG etc?
can it stream internet radio?

pathetic writer - lovely. gotta get it, if only for the name and the "no warranty" in the stausbar.
Thanks.

It's the standard panel (taskbar) the setting are in preferences
TaskBarDoubleHeight=1 # 0/1
There are extensive config options in icewm for both looks and usage but most people fire it up says it's ugly and disappear. A handy built in run dialog springs to mind and windows cascade iirc

http://siag.nu/ Part of siag office spreadsheet, writer and a few other bits n bobs. Very old and unsupported but also very neat.

Open Cubic Player seems to play most formats no streaming radio support that I could see but there are plugins so it maybe possible. It's also really old but unlike siag is still supported.
http://stian.cubic.org/project-ocp.php
https://packages.debian.org/sid/opencubicplayer
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1426 Post by debiman »

oswaldkelso wrote:It's the standard panel (taskbar) the setting are in preferences
TaskBarDoubleHeight=1 # 0/1
There are extensive config options in icewm for both looks and usage but most people fire it up says it's ugly and disappear. A handy built in run dialog springs to mind and windows cascade iirc
not me!
icewm is great for people who want a simple, familiar desktop paradigm.
it has billions of themes, iirc.
but i need something that can do manual tiling (keyboard shortcuts to move & resize windows) - icewm doesn't have much there. iirc.
http://siag.nu/ Part of siag office spreadsheet, writer and a few other bits n bobs. Very old and unsupported but also very neat.
could not find a way to compile it myself, or a package.
but since it's clearly a word processor and not a text editor, i'm not so interested anyway.
Open Cubic Player seems to play most formats no streaming radio support that I could see but there are plugins so it maybe possible.
i see.
i tried it once and something put me off; maybe i should try again.

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#1427 Post by Nili »

Plain Openbox, no bar/panel. bottom conky-std
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#1428 Post by None1975 »

Nili wrote:Plain Openbox, no bar/panel. bottom conky-std
Nice icons in Openbox menu.
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#1429 Post by Nili »

None1975 wrote:Nice icons in Openbox menu.
Thanks mate, Icons in fact are chatsheets for ttf-font-awesome-4 from Arch AUR.

I simple set it manually on Openbox menu.xml
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#1430 Post by bedtime »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
bedtime wrote:The configuration
Of what? Which window manager & operating system is that?
Really sorry about the delay... It's Debian 9 with i3 wm.

As to the config, it's really just a bunch of scripts written in sh: I made backups of all the config files which use hex colour codes (i.e., .Xresources -> .Xresources.orig, muttrc -> muttrc.orig...). Then I replaced the hex codes with new and distinct colour identifiers (i.e., #000000 -> @background, #ffffff -> @foreground in .orig files). These .orig files are then copied back to match their default file names (i.e., .Xresources.orig -> .Xresources) and have their identifiers changed according to the colour the user picks (i.e., @foreground -> #ff0000...). The mouse and icons are changed using 'convert'.

GarryRicketson wrote:That is nice, I like FVWM myself, if I do use a WM on Minix 3, that is what I use.
Here, below, is the server (Minix 3) , connected to it with Iridium browser, the server is on a QEMU VM, the host is OpenBsd, and sometimes get confused as to where I am.
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Any way, I am here,... :mrgreen:
In the top Xterm, I am logged into the server via ssh, not using any WM, the Xterm window at the bottom, is the OpenBsd host terminal,... and the WM on the OpenBsd host is OpenBox.
Is this Minix 3.3 or 3.4rc? I've heard that 3.3 doesn't do xorg. Love the ASCII racoon! :P

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#1431 Post by GarryRicketson »

It is 3.4rc

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#1432 Post by praka123 »

Devuan Ascii with Cinnamon desktop (uses elogind):

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#1433 Post by pawRoot »

Just installed freshly released Mac OS Mojave, finally Apple added dark theme, which looks super cool.

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#1434 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

pawRoot wrote:Mac OS
:o
dark theme, which looks super cool
Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see :mrgreen:

What's with that top-bar? Do you actually like that cluttered mess and can you clean it up in any way?

Wall of terminal to compensate:

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Not in the scrot but Chromium is running under unveil(2), it is invoked with a simple wrapper:

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Puffy:~$ cat `which chrome`
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The entire filesystem tree is then invisible to the browser, I have to start the binary directly to be able to upload scrots :cool:
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#1435 Post by None1975 »

pawRoot wrote:Just installed freshly released Mac OS Mojave, finally Apple added dark theme, which looks super cool.
I have never understood the people who drink from the apple products.
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#1436 Post by GarryRicketson »

I do and would really like to get one, they are pretty pricey though (at least from what I saw, even used ones ) I still may get one, if and when get a new computer. Why ?
Not so much because programmers prefer them, but because it is Unix based,and certified , the most user friendly and versatile OS , as well as dependable.
https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/appl ... e-3638706/The herd switched to OS X from rival operating systems over an extended period. And part of this (a big part, according to many programmers) was when Apple released OS X. For the last 15 years Apple's operating system has been built on top of Unix, the command-line OS that powers much of the world's filesystems and servers.

Indeed, OS X is a fully featured Unix operating system (certified as Unix by the Open Standard Groups). Not even modern versions of Linux, such as Mint or Ubuntu, are certified Unix operating systems (they are based on GNU instead of Unix).

"The [Unix] shell is very important for a programmer," says Jessica Su, a CS PhD student at Stanford. "It lets you run programs in almost any language without using a specialised IDE. It's also important if you want a job at a tech company since many companies make their employees work on Unix-based systems.

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#1437 Post by pawRoot »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see :mrgreen:
why ?
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: What's with that top-bar? Do you actually like that cluttered mess and can you clean it up in any way?
Nothing wrong with the top bar to be honest, the way it works is it shows options for active window, thanks to that
programs top bars don't look awfully like in Windows (since they are not there) :D
None1975 wrote: I have never understood the people who drink from the apple products.
I'm not even buying Apple products anymore, just using Mac OS on my PC.
GarryRicketson wrote:I do and would really like to get one, they are pretty pricey though
You can install it on PC. (depending on your motherboard, CPU, GPU etc.), it's lot of effort though.
GarryRicketson wrote: because it is Unix based,and certified , the most user friendly and versatile OS , as well as dependable.
Exactly, by using Homebrew i can install A LOT of Linux packages on it, so when i'm using terminal i kind of feel likein Debian :D .

Also it's super stable, a lot of good software, a lot of good functions, and i can get my work done without trying to fix things or reading 100 pages of manuals.

If i want to let's say create new partition and encrypt it, 2 or 3 clicks.
If i want to backup my whole drive systematically to another drive ? 2 clicks.

There is lots of things like that, for example file preview in finder, by pressing space you can preview any file, even Photoshop files without opening Photoshop itself, that is why a lot of programmers/designers etc. love it!

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#1438 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

pawRoot wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see :mrgreen:
why ?
The only version of Apple's operating system I have used was the original graphical desktop back in the eighties[1] and I see that the basic layout & paradigm is the same.

pawRoot wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: What's with that top-bar? Do you actually like that cluttered mess and can you clean it up in any way?
Nothing wrong with the top bar to be honest, the way it works is it shows options for active window
So just like the GNOME top panel but with added clutter? :mrgreen:

[1] I hated it:

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#1439 Post by pawRoot »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
pawRoot wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see :mrgreen:
why ?
The only version of Apple's operating system I have used was the original graphical desktop back in the eighties[1] and I see that the basic layout & paradigm is the same.
It works and looks good (imo), so why change it ? :D
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: So just like the GNOME top panel but with added clutter? :mrgreen:
I don't see any clutter in there, perhaps you mean the taskbar on the right ? If yes then those icons can be disabled. :mrgreen:

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Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Not in the scrot but Chromium is running under unveil(2), it is invoked with a simple wrapper:

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Puffy:~$ cat `which chrome`
/usr/local/bin/chrome --enable-unveil
Puffy:~$
The entire filesystem tree is then invisible to the browser, I have to start the binary directly to be able to upload scrots :cool:
Wow, thanks Head_on_a_Stick.

Downloads (and I believe Uploads) under your home folder are still accessible.

I'm wrapping my chrome launch with ...

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rm -rf ~/.cache/chromium
rm -rf ~/.config/chromium
cd ~/Downloads
chrome --enable-unveil file:///home/user/Downloads/time.html
as I don't like G (chrome is already 5 million lines of code) having loads of additional G files other than the main program files on my system any longer than what I have to. Especially with the default 'continue to run in background when closed'. See also https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-se ... ogle-site/
I manually maintain time.html as my bookmarks file ... and it includes some javascript to show the date and time in its tab title.

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Posting images is only a little different, I use mtpaint - open a terminal and sleep 5;mtpaint -s ...to grab a screenshot into mtpaint (sleep gives me time to alt-enter minimise the xterm window in cwm before the screenshot occurs). And then when mtpaint snapshot pops up just save it to ~/Downloads ... and upload/post it from there. As I start chrome from within the Downloads folder that folder shows up in Recent when the file selection window is shown.

Your scrot's 385 installed is 300 more than me (chromium, sshfs-fuse, mc, ispell, mtpaint). cwm, with colourful tmux and mc in console).

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