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operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-28 22:09
by fruitofloom
Debian ports
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Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
Debian GNU/HURD


Debian based:
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grml: http://download.grml.org/devel/grml64-f ... 10-rc1.iso (with libsystemd0)
antix: https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix- ... antiX-14R/ (for testing, libsystemd0 ? )
refracta: https://downloads.sourceforge.net/proje ... 7_1300.iso (for testing, without libsystemd0, it's pinned)
exegnulinux: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/
Kali: distro only for pentesters and wannabes.

BSD (in short: all *BSD ones come without systemd)
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FreeBSD
OpenBSD
NetBSD
DragonflyBSD
PC-BSD
MirBSD
TrueOS

Gnu/Linux
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Slackware
Salix
Slax
Porteus
Gentoo
Funtoo
Liberte
Dragora
Crux
PCLinuxOS
Void Linux
Putty
Slitaz
Stella
Pisi

Solaris
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Solaris
OpenIndiana
others based on Solaris ...

Other and obscure solutions:
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minix3
haiku
plan9 / inferno
musl-libc based distros (not sure): http://wiki.musl-libc.org/wiki/Projects_using_musl
Windows OS'es
Apple OS'es
FirefoxOS
Android

Re: operarting systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-28 22:14
by golinux
Why no mention of the systemd-less version of Jessie that fsmithred has put together?

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-28 22:15
by fruitofloom
it is in the list.
no?
under "Debian based", second paragraph. If i am wrong let me know (pretty confused tonight ....)

You (or anyone) can of course either a) tell me what to add or remove to the OP list or b) post your own list in this thread (say: what are good solutions to you. Would seem pointless to duplicate the above list - duh).

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-28 22:20
by Head_on_a_Stick

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-28 22:22
by fruitofloom
I didn't mention rather obscure solutions like haiku, plan9, inferno, etc.

arch equals obscure, in my book
:-)

kidding aside:
As you say, alternative init systems like runit, cinit, openrc aren't trivial to implement in Arch, so people generally leave Arch for another distro if they're unhappy with systemd.

from the link you gave.

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-29 00:32
by golinux
fruitofloom wrote:it is in the list.
no?
under "Debian based", second paragraph.

Yes, it is. Don't know how I missed it. Senior moment? :oops:

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-29 10:18
by anticapitalista
Just to clarify, antiX-svsVinit has libsystemd0 (for the moment, hope to get rid of it)

Added: Got rid of it so antiX-14/15 sysvinit will be 99% systemd free (only udev remains)

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-29 12:59
by mmix
i am using void linux:
http://www.voidlinux.eu/

any linux distro with busybox

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-29 13:28
by harrycaul
Does Puppy Linux still use BusyBox?

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-29 18:12
by pcalvert
harrycaul wrote:Does Puppy Linux still use BusyBox?

Yes, I believe so.

Phil

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-30 00:43
by Job
The best thing will be for Debian to release Jessie with and without systemd. Now that will be really freedom a la Debian.

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-30 01:36
by fruitofloom
mmix wrote:i am using void linux:
http://www.voidlinux.eu/

any linux distro with busybox

I added Void Linux

I don't understand the second sentence (neither why any distro with busybox would *not* come with systemd, nor now to know in advance if a distro comes with busybox. Or, truth to be told, what exactly busybox is. Looked always to me like a pretty minimal shell environment, which . used if something goes south during boot, which,as far it's me, was pretty much never)
If you care to explain that a bit more detailed: thanks in advance.

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I didn't add puppy linux, because to me it looked abandoned. If i shall add it, iow: if it makes sense to add it, i will do.
It is not supposed to be a list of distros or OS i like or prefer. Just a list for people who want to avoid systemd.
But it is also supposed to make sense (no outstanding obscure solutions, say Windows7, and no distros out of date, abandoned)

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-30 03:15
by pcalvert
fruitofloom wrote:I didn't add puppy linux, because to me it looked abandoned. If i shall add it, iow: if it makes sense to add it, i will do.

I don't think Puppy has been abandoned. However, it is not a "normal" distro -- in Puppy you are always root. Personally, I'd use it as a live CD only.

Phil

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-30 06:31
by fruitofloom
Ok, thanks. I will add it to the list.

I recall something when i tried to put putty on raspberry pi. Perhaps me recalling "abandon" is related to that. I checked at wikipedia, the last release is quite a while ago, but that's all i can figure out.
What i can say about putty is that it ran on pretty any hardware i tried (where other distros failed. antiX always was quite reliable too). I never used it for something serious though.

Re: operating systems without systemd

PostPosted: 2014-10-30 16:58
by MoaTib
fruitofloom wrote:I didn't add puppy linux, because to me it looked abandoned.


Puppy Linux 6.0 released:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00097