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[help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvidia

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[help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvidia

#1 Post by Kibblez »

Hey everyone! I'm new here, and very new to Linux, I started like 3 days ago.

I'm currently studying to get my Security+ so I can eventually become OSCP certified; I figured if I'm going to do something, might as well jump right in. I'm new to Linux, but not programming, Windows, even computer security/hacking; which is why my interest is in Kali (it's harder to learn, more terminal based than Ubuntu); eventually I'll switch back over to Ubuntu for programming... But anyway; that's just to save me a few posts of people asking why I'm using Kali.

I just bought this MSI GT72 Dominator Pro-211 (Super excited, it's my first high-end laptop, I travel too much for a PC sadly).

So after running benchmarks and playing with it on Windows 8.1, I play around with VMWare, Kali, and a Packet Injection environment I made.. Then I realize I want to tap into my GPU to crack pcaps with pyrit/hashcat, and this is where it gets crazy.

The Background

I installed Kali Linux onto a USB 3.0 Flash Drive, had trouble with the UEFI for a day or two, ended up destroying Windows EFI bootloader, so I had to create a recovery disk from another computer; ended up breaking it like 6 more times lol. I eventually just booted Kali with Legacy settings, until I came across an article on Kali Forums that allowed be to successfully boot Kali in UEFI. I had already tried disabling Fast Boot, Secure Boot, and manually partitioned the drive to include an EFI Partition, ext4, and a 4GB swap (I have 16GB RAM) before. The problem was I didn't have an /EFI/Boot folder. I am currently using rEFInd as my Boot Loader as well. It's working great... When I boot up using the Integrated Intel Graphics.

The Big Problem:

I have a couple choices with rEFInd. I can boot into Grub bootloader (which doesn't work at all), boot into Windows, or boot straight into my Kali 1.0.9 Partition from rEFInd (which is the only way I can get it to work).

If I go through "GNU GRUB v1.99-27+deb7u2" bootloader with either Intel Graphics or nVidia, I boot, it runs through the grub commands and then hits a black screen. No flashing cursor. Can't Ctrl+Alt+F1. There's nothing. This happens using either Integrated Graphics or nvidia.
I've tried a motley of different commands to include:
nosetmode, nouveau.setmode=0, nouveau.accel=1, grub_gfxmode=1280x1024x24 (vesa and vga as well).

I am not completely sure how to blacklist nouveau though.

Booting through Grub is just... It doesn't work with anything I've tried. Now, when I boot through rEFInd and go straight to Kali; I can actually get on the OS with my Integrated Graphics Card.

When I try to do it with my 980M, /dev/ does its thing like always, and then it always stops... Right at this line:

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fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs simple - removing generic driver
At first, I thought it was just loading; until I waited like 20 minutes and looked it up online and found a few others had similar problems. When I boot using this method, there is no Grub menu; so I can't screw around with nosetmode and such this way.

When I get on with my Integrated Graphics, I can't install any nvidia drivers because it doesn't detect a card. My laptop has a manual switch that can switch on and off my 980M. My computer does not have optimus, MSI opted out of Optimus, so Bumblebee really didn't help me; it's a complete manual shutdown of one or the other.

I might have just done something wrong trying to install nvidia drivers; but I am not so sure that I did. I've tried doing a manual .run file from nvidia's drivers site; and I've tried repositories and guides (Like this one and this one).. No luck.

Any help would be HIGHLY appreciated!

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Re: [help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvi

#2 Post by dasein »

Your "reasons" for running Kali are irrelevant to the fact that you aren't using Kali the way it's intended to be used. It's a very highly specialized distro, not meant for use as a desktop OS, and sure as hell not intended for someone with just 3 days' of Linux experience.

Then there's the fact that all the Kali expertise on planet Earth resides someplace else. But be prepared for the experts to reaffirm that you're using the wrong tool for the job, and your reasons for doing so don't matter.

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Re: [help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvi

#3 Post by Kibblez »

Thanks for the help. You don't think Kali is a great interface for debugging, analyzing memory, cracking hashes, and performing many other security and reverse engineering feats? Because I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it's for and that's exactly what I intend to use it for.

I need my GPU to work on Kali so I can use my 1500 cores in my GTX 980M to blow through hashes. I got it running on Windows using Hashcat. My CPU was going through WPA/WPA2 hashes at about 4kh/s, which really isn't worth much. My GPU is going through them at 130kh/s.

That's why I need it dual-booting, because VMs don't support Graphics Acceleration. So if you think I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, you're wrong, just because I'm not an expert doesn't mean I don't have a goal in mind. I am using Kali because it is loaded with dozens of useful tools that are all extremely useful. I know what I'm doing; I just don't know why nouveau isn't playing well with my nvidia card, and I need assistance with it. I could just as easily use Ubuntu and run Kali Linux as a VM within that, and it would probably be just as easy; however, that's not what I want to do. I just want to be able to boot up Kali and go to work.

So would you like to help me or not?

And as for your link back to Kali's Forums. I would have posted there originally, but I can't seem to register; either my computer is just being weird or their site is. Regardless, I was going to try back later, I thought I could come over to Debian for the problem because I'm almost 100% sure that all of my problems are Debian-related and not so much Kali Linux related.

I posted the small introduction to avoid posts like the one you just posted so I could get some actual help. I don't know if it's because my card is too new or not, because when I booted in Legacy, lspci showed I had an nvidia card, but it would not say what model. Which was unusual, seeing as that was never a problem for people with older cards. So I was wondering if it's a driver problem, or a direct, perhaps (temporarily) unavoidable conflict with nouveau.

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Re: [help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvi

#4 Post by dilberts_left_nut »

Moved to Offtopic.
Kali != Debian
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#5 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Kibblez wrote:I thought I could come over to Debian for the problem because I'm almost 100% sure that all of my problems are Debian-related and not so much Kali Linux related.
I don't think this is the case.

I know very little about Kali, but a quick glance at the links you gave shows that you can use an nvidia-specific kernel under Kali -- that is quite a fundamental difference.
http://www.blackmoreops.com/2014/06/27/ ... DIA_Kernel

There will be many basic configuration details "under the skin" of Kali that would make my (limited) knowledge of the workings of my Debian system irrelevant.

It is unlikely that anyone here will be able to offer advice applicable to your system. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Re: [help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvi

#6 Post by dasein »

Kibblez wrote:.. I'm almost 100% sure that all of my problems are Debian-related and not so much Kali Linux related.
An estimate based on your vast days' of experience, no doubt.

To eliminate the need for "estimation," simply follow three easy steps:
  • 1) Install Debian (not Kali or Ubuntu or Mint, nor any of the ~100 spinoff/derivative distros)

    2) Reproduce the problem

    3) Post back with enough information to allow someone else to replicate the problem after you've searched the Web for an existing answer.
If the problem is really with Debian, then it affects countless spinoffs and derivatives, which translates into hundreds-of-thousands (or even millions) of affected users. If that's true, then you are almost certainly not the first person on the planet to have this issue, so a focused hour spent searching the farqing Web should yield a solution.

P.S. "I know what I'm doing after just three days" doesn't make you sound all leet and stuff. It just makes you sound... well...
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Re: [help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvi

#7 Post by PooyaRahimi »

i have same problem with debian 8.2 on asus g751jy ( its gtx980m to)
but after selecting debian for boot it show some line and then noting ! ( http://s3.uploads.im/x8ABC.jpg )
me laptop has gtx980m and intel iris pro 5200 and i cant switch between these only nvidia graphic can run .(technical limit because intel graphic dose not support G-Sync)
i think its for kernel have not nvidia driver . if its true:
my question is: how compile driver with kernel and reinstall debian with new kernel?
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Re: [help?] GTX980M Black Screen Kali 1.0.9 UEFI/nouveau/nvi

#8 Post by Arthos »

I'll say this much

Kali like others have said is not meant to be used for an every day distro far too many of its tools require root priveleges which is something nobody with 3 days linux experience should be doing.

VirtualBox does have 3D acceleration.

http://postimg.org/image/yqxf8uxrz/full/

Kali is good for debugging, analyzing memory, cracking hashes, and performing many other security and reverse engineering feats. Its a specialised distro for a specialised user if you are incapable of finding a little tickbox in VirtualBox for 3D acceleration you're definitely not a specialised user.
My CPU was going through WPA/WPA2 hashes at about 4kh/s, which really isn't worth much. My GPU is going through them at 130kh/s
I can't say for certain but I highly doubt you actually have permission for cracking your neighbours wifi.

Please stop whatever it is your doing before you break your system or wake up in a cell next to your 300lb cellmate.

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