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Kernel 4.6 a worthy one

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Kernel 4.6 a worthy one

#1 Post by bester69 »

I installed yesterday, and im very happy with it,

I had kernel 4.5 installed, At first glance feels some quicker than kernel 4.5, also sounds seems to improve, and network is working more stable, dolphin, okular and konsole open faster which is a good signal. My cpu activity also seems mores stable and lower, i've got vaapi and vdapu acceleration working for first time propertly in my computer,

I compiled again last G45-h264 branch intel acceleration graphics, and as i said vdapu is working in kodi, so i can watch 1080p h264 movies great in kodi :D .



-->Resolved bug with Atheros ath9k Wifi lossing speed connection<--

At the moment im veryhappy with this kernel, i will keep testing it just in case in find something wrong. :wink:
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Still my 2008-Extensa computer getting younger :mrgreen:
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Updating to 4.6.3, the thing keep getting better, nice :D :D

Here's what's new in Linux kernel 4.6.3
http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-ke ... 5638.shtml
we can notice that Linux kernel 4.6.3 brings multiple improvements to various hardware architectures, including SPARC, ARM64 (AArch64), ARM, PA-RISC, s390, PowerPC (PPC), and x86, an updated networking stack with many changes for the IPv4 and IPv6 protocols, but also for things like L2TP, Netfilter, Netlink, TIPC, Wireless, Bridge, and switchdev.

A couple of KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine), mm, eCryptfs, Crypto, and Intel HDA fixes are also present in Linux kernel 4.6.3, along with updated drivers, in particular networking ones (mostly Ethernet Atheros/Marvell/EZchip/Rocker/STMicroelectronics), but also general-purpose input/output (GPIO), Intel i915, PINCTRL, and SCSI. All users are urged to update to Linux kernel 4.6.3 as soon as possible.
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bester69 wrote:Updating to 4.6.3
You still running that old thing?
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empty@Arch ~ % uname -a
Linux Arch 4.6.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 11 19:12:32 CEST 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
bester69 wrote:Updating to 4.6.3
You still running that old thing?
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empty@Arch ~ % uname -a
Linux Arch 4.6.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 11 19:12:32 CEST 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux
:D
Dont dare me to install these ones , im able of that and more, you should belieleve me, its not the first time i do it :twisted:
$ wget kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc5/linux-headers-4.7.0-040700rc5_4.7.0-040700rc5.201607110749_all.deb
$ wget kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc5/linux-headers-4.7.0-040700rc5-generic_4.7.0-040700rc5.201607110749_amd64.deb
$ wget kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc5/linux-image-4.7.0-040700rc5-generic_4.7.0-040700rc5.201607110749_amd64.deb
$ sudo dpkg -i 'linux-headers-4.7*.deb' 'linux-image-4.7*.deb'
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#6 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

^ You are a very silly person.
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Can you not compile your own from https://kernel.org/?

See https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingKernelF ... eamSources
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Head_on_a_Stick wrote:^ You are a very silly person.
:roll:

Can you not compile your own from https://kernel.org/?

See https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingKernelF ... eamSources
Thats very difficult, and im too old for those things, If were so easy people woulnt need backports....
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#8 Post by stevepusser »

To keep up with HOAS, you could get a 4.6.4 Liquorix kernel backported for Jessie from the OBS repository that I try to keep up-to-date: https://software.opensuse.org/download. ... e=codelite

If your machine builds packages slowly, the OBS is reasonably fast, and isn't that hard to learn how to use.
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stevepusser wrote:To keep up with HOAS, you could get a 4.6.4 Liquorix kernel backported for Jessie from the OBS repository that I try to keep up-to-date: https://software.opensuse.org/download. ... e=codelite
If your machine builds packages slowly, the OBS is reasonably fast, and isn't that hard to learn how to use.
Great!, Thanks, ill check 4.6.4 :P
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#10 Post by xinu »

hi ...

WHEN kernel 5 :?:
May the FORK be with you!

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bester69 wrote: If were so easy people woulnt need backports
nice1 !
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#12 Post by floreado »

Hi,

I use a default kernel in Jessie, it means 3.16. It is worth to upgrade to 4.6?
Are there differences which can be noticed by a common user like me who generally only uses OS for browsing Internet?
I have a Lenovo G70-70, bought a half of year ago and I read that this kernel 4.6 resolves problems with overheating on Lenovo laptops.
Do you know something about that?

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floreado wrote:Hi,

I use a default kernel in Jessie, it means 3.16. It is worth to upgrade to 4.6?
Are there differences which can be noticed by a common user like me who generally only uses OS for browsing Internet?
I have a Lenovo G70-70, bought a half of year ago and I read that this kernel 4.6 resolves problems with overheating on Lenovo laptops.
Do you know something about that?
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Hi! It's simply,
New computer fit well with new kernel versions. New shiny kernels bring bug fixing and new feature added to new computers.

You can upgrade using backport kernel if you have issue or want to try new features.

There are changelogs as well to see something more about 4.6 series.
Jessie Backports It is recommended, not to be fearing to be tried :)

I have very old desktop and I'm very happy with 3.16 series with security updates.
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#14 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

floreado wrote:I use a default kernel in Jessie, it means 3.16. It is worth to upgrade to 4.6?
I would not recommend changing to the jessie-backports kernel version unless you have specific hardware support problems or you want to use newer features (for example, better btrfs & nftables support).
I read that this kernel 4.6 resolves problems with overheating on Lenovo laptops.
Does your Lenovo laptop have problems with overheating?

If it isn't broken then why waste time attempting to "fix" it?

The problem with switching to the backported kernel is that the user then has to keep track of kernel updates in order to protect against security vulnerabilities and with the jessie-backports kernel any new features may introduce regressions that degrade functionality on your machine.

This problem does not occur with the stable kernel and hardware support should be guaranteed throughout the lifecyle of the release.

EDIT: Please don't take @bester69's posts too seriously, that user can be considered the "court jester" of these boards :mrgreen:

Using kernel 4.6.3 when 4.6.4 is the current stable kernel version is unwise...
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#15 Post by bester69 »

My computer is a Extensa 5230 from 2008, and i dont know if we can consider this an old computer,but at the present day, i've just noticed improvements with new kernels, in performance, and in bugs fixeds.

For example,

The backported 4.6.0 kernel repaired a bug with speed wifi connection with driver ath9k, This bug was killing me as I had to use workarounds to be abel to use my whole internet bandwith

So, Saying this, i dont see the point in not try and test new backported kernels and use it in case they goes well.
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#16 Post by floreado »

The problem with switching to the backported kernel is that the user then has to keep track of kernel updates in order to protect against security vulnerabilities and with the jessie-backports kernel any new features may introduce regressions that degrade functionality on your machine.

This problem does not occur with the stable kernel and hardware support should be guaranteed throughout the lifecyle of the release.

EDIT: Please don't take @bester69's posts too seriously, that user can be considered the "court jester" of these boards
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#17 Post by stevepusser »

Another reason I backport Liquorix kernels is that they enable staging drivers, mostly for wifi, where the Debian backported kernels don't. This again is almost all for newer hardware.

Anyway, I just sent up the sources for the latest Liquorix to the OBS, which means the kernels won't be in that repo until they are built. This version backports some patches for Skylake multimonitor support.
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stevepusser wrote:Another reason I backport Liquorix kernels is that they enable staging drivers, mostly for wifi, where the Debian backported kernels don't. This again is almost all for newer hardware.

Anyway, I just sent up the sources for the latest Liquorix to the OBS, which means the kernels won't be in that repo until they are built. This version backports some patches for Skylake multimonitor support.
Hi Seteve,
I installed 4.6.4 from
Im testing it; at the moment, I dont feel almost difference between 4.6.3bpo and 4.6.4 MX bpo liqurorix, just a litle bit more responsive liquorix. I probably stay with this up to next one come up.

Thanks, :)
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@xinu: When it's ready...

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empty@sid ~ % uname -a
Linux sid 4.7.0-rc4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7~rc4-1~exp1 (2016-06-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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stevepusser wrote:Another reason I backport Liquorix kernels is that they enable staging drivers, mostly for wifi, where the Debian backported kernels don't. This again is almost all for newer hardware.

Anyway, I just sent up the sources for the latest Liquorix to the OBS, which means the kernels won't be in that repo until they are built. This version backports some patches for Skylake multimonitor support.
Hi Steve,

Do i need zswap?

I got message zswap failed to load, i added to grub

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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash zswap.zpool=zsmalloc"
update-grub
I checked
dmesg | grep zswap
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.6-4.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=13f8cacf-27d1-43f0-acc3-6f2b3a7e313d ro initrd=/install/gtk/initrd.gz quiet splash zswap.zpool=zsmalloc
[ 0.855942] zswap: loaded using pool lzo/zsmalloc
Now its loaded, the thing, is that with zswap everithing seems to feel quicker :o :o , i've never heard about zswap..

do normal kernel has enabled zswapby default?? :?:
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