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Re: What kernel do you use

#76 Post by Linadian »

4.8.7 in PCLOS. The occasional video tearing in fullscreen VLC stopped, apparently the Radeon driver was updated.
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Re: What kernel do you use

#77 Post by bester69 »

Cool, Im using now 4.8.8 ubuntu's kernel, the issue I had with these new kernels with latency/graphics that made me stuck in kernel 4.7.6, seems to be resolved by migrating ext4 to btrfs, Now i can enjoy last kernels and make snapshots, :)

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Linux hall 4.8.8-040808-generic #201611150231 SMP Tue Nov 15 07:33:21 UTC 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Re: What kernel do you use

#78 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

@bester69 -- make sure that you use the backported version of btrfs-tools (or btrfs-progs as it is now known) if you're running that filesystem on your FrankenDebian.

https://packages.debian.org/jessie-back ... trfs-tools

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Puffy: ~ $ dmesg | sed q
OpenBSD 6.0-current (GENERIC.MP) #0: Tue Nov 15 21:21:30 MST 2016
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Re: What kernel do you use

#79 Post by bester69 »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:@bester69 -- make sure that you use the backported version of btrfs-tools (or btrfs-progs as it is now known) if you're running that filesystem on your FrankenDebian.

https://packages.debian.org/jessie-back ... trfs-tools

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Puffy: ~ $ dmesg | sed q
OpenBSD 6.0-current (GENERIC.MP) #0:  Tue Nov 15 21:21:30 MST 2016
Hi Head,

Im using stretch, what do you mean with bpo's?
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Re: What kernel do you use

#80 Post by Linadian »

bester69 wrote:what do you mean with bpo's?
bpo = backports = if you're not careful, you'll make a complete mess of your install. I used to 'play' with them, can't be bothered anymore, unless it's absolutely necessary. The trick is to take only what you need, then disable it, because if you unilaterally update with them enabled all the time, some version and dependency conflicts may arise, then it becomes Hell to fix it.

Edit: Oops, just realized you know what backports are, sorry. I think he meant the bpo version is superior to the 'stable' version. I'll shut my mouth now. :oops:
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Re: What kernel do you use

#81 Post by RU55EL »

Fedora update this morning...

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[russel@k55a ~]$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 4.8.7-200.fc24.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160916 (Red Hat 6.2.1-2) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Fri Nov 11 15:44:18 UTC 2016
[edit 11/21/16]
Another kernel update today...

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[russel@k55a ~]$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 4.8.8-200.fc24.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160916 (Red Hat 6.2.1-2) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue Nov 15 19:41:51 UTC 2016
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Fedora 25 is out now...but still running 24.

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[russel@k55a ~]$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 4.8.10-200.fc24.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160916 (Red Hat 6.2.1-2) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Mon Nov 21 17:55:46 UTC 2016
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Re: What kernel do you use

#82 Post by millpond »

I use 3.16 on both 32 bit single core, and 64b C2Q systems. With an ancient 4350 ATI Radeon card.

I would really like to know what * advantages* a newer kernel could provide on an older system.

As the system aint broke, really trying to understand reasons to fix it....

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Re: What kernel do you use

#83 Post by RU55EL »

millpond wrote:[...]
I would really like to know what * advantages* a newer kernel could provide on an older system.

As the system aint broke, really trying to understand reasons to fix it....
I agree. I run Debian stable on my computers, with the exception of one with Windows 10 (for when I have to use Windows), and this notebook computer with which I am checking out Fedora. Fedora seems to keep the kernel much more current when compared to Debian stable. But, I don't see the advantage. At least not with this computer (Asus K55A). It runs Debian just fine, it runs Fedora just fine. It is fun to try other operating systems occasionally.

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But, Fedora is kind of a memory hog!

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[russel@k55a ~]$ sudo memory.py
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

 88.0 KiB +  18.5 KiB = 106.5 KiB	xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper
200.0 KiB +  31.0 KiB = 231.0 KiB	audispd
216.0 KiB +  27.5 KiB = 243.5 KiB	mcelog
232.0 KiB +  56.5 KiB = 288.5 KiB	atd
296.0 KiB +  27.0 KiB = 323.0 KiB	agetty
404.0 KiB +  74.5 KiB = 478.5 KiB	rtkit-daemon
336.0 KiB + 143.0 KiB = 479.0 KiB	alsactl
384.0 KiB + 106.5 KiB = 490.5 KiB	sedispatch
544.0 KiB + 121.5 KiB = 665.5 KiB	auditd
656.0 KiB +  82.0 KiB = 738.0 KiB	gpg-agent
692.0 KiB +  57.5 KiB = 749.5 KiB	crond
660.0 KiB + 119.0 KiB = 779.0 KiB	chronyd
828.0 KiB +  77.5 KiB = 905.5 KiB	dconf-service
748.0 KiB + 208.5 KiB = 956.5 KiB	gconfd-2
840.0 KiB + 117.0 KiB = 957.0 KiB	gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
832.0 KiB + 168.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gvfsd
880.0 KiB + 155.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
960.0 KiB + 100.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gssproxy
420.0 KiB + 648.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	avahi-daemon (2)
  1.0 MiB + 107.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	gvfsd-fuse
  1.0 MiB + 213.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfsd-network
  1.0 MiB + 225.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfsd-dnssd
  1.1 MiB + 150.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
  1.2 MiB +  90.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB	bluetoothd
  1.1 MiB + 182.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB	gvfsd-trash
  1.1 MiB + 301.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB	gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
548.0 KiB + 857.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	dnsmasq (3)
  1.3 MiB + 159.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	sshd
  1.3 MiB + 136.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB	accounts-daemon
  1.2 MiB + 289.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher (2)
  1.2 MiB + 310.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB	ibus-engine-simple (2)
  1.2 MiB + 360.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	ibus-dconf (2)
  1.4 MiB + 331.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	gdm-wayland-session
  1.4 MiB + 324.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	gdm-x-session
  1.6 MiB + 209.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	gdm
  1.4 MiB + 402.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	at-spi2-registryd (2)
  1.5 MiB + 368.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB	upowerd
  1.4 MiB + 478.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB	abrtd
  1.6 MiB + 403.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	cupsd
  1.6 MiB + 418.0 KiB =   2.0 MiB	sudo
  1.9 MiB + 335.0 KiB =   2.2 MiB	gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  1.9 MiB + 437.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	gnome-keyring-daemon
  2.3 MiB +  61.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	bash
  1.9 MiB + 484.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	gsd-printer
  2.2 MiB + 281.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udisksd
  2.1 MiB + 449.5 KiB =   2.5 MiB	systemd-logind
  2.5 MiB + 133.0 KiB =   2.6 MiB	gvfsd-metadata
  2.7 MiB +  31.0 KiB =   2.8 MiB	openvpn-expressvpn
  2.4 MiB + 436.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	colord
  2.4 MiB + 418.0 KiB =   2.8 MiB	goa-identity-service
  2.6 MiB + 576.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB	wpa_supplicant
  2.6 MiB + 887.0 KiB =   3.4 MiB	tracker-miner-user-guides
  3.2 MiB + 488.0 KiB =   3.7 MiB	systemd-udevd
  3.6 MiB + 358.5 KiB =   4.0 MiB	ModemManager
  3.4 MiB + 932.5 KiB =   4.4 MiB	tracker-miner-apps
  4.2 MiB + 768.5 KiB =   5.0 MiB	gsd-locate-pointer
  4.6 MiB + 477.0 KiB =   5.1 MiB	ibus-daemon (2)
  4.0 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   5.1 MiB	gnome-session-binary (2)
  3.1 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   5.3 MiB	(sd-pam) (3)
  4.3 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   5.4 MiB	gdm-session-worker (2)
  5.2 MiB + 733.5 KiB =   6.0 MiB	dbus-daemon (5)
  4.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.1 MiB	abrt-applet
  5.6 MiB + 591.0 KiB =   6.1 MiB	seapplet
  5.0 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.2 MiB	abrt-dump-journal-oops
  3.9 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   6.7 MiB	systemd (4)
  7.1 MiB + 553.5 KiB =   7.7 MiB	NetworkManager
  6.2 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   8.4 MiB	gnome-shell-calendar-server
  8.7 MiB + 216.5 KiB =   8.9 MiB	polkitd
  6.8 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   9.1 MiB	evolution-addressbook-factory
  6.5 MiB +   2.7 MiB =   9.2 MiB	pulseaudio (2)
  6.8 MiB +   2.5 MiB =   9.3 MiB	evolution-addressbook-factory-subprocess
  8.1 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   9.4 MiB	tracker-miner-fs
  7.3 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   9.4 MiB	abrt-dump-journal-xorg
  8.9 MiB +   1.8 MiB =  10.7 MiB	gnome-terminal-server
  8.9 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  11.7 MiB	evolution-alarm-notify
  9.1 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  11.8 MiB	evolution-calendar-factory
 11.4 MiB + 802.5 KiB =  12.2 MiB	tracker-store
  9.9 MiB +   2.6 MiB =  12.5 MiB	systemd-journald
 11.7 MiB +   2.1 MiB =  13.8 MiB	ibus-x11 (2)
 13.8 MiB + 323.0 KiB =  14.2 MiB	dhclient
 16.4 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  19.2 MiB	evolution-source-registry
 20.6 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  22.0 MiB	libvirtd
 18.7 MiB +   5.7 MiB =  24.5 MiB	gnome-settings-daemon (2)
 24.6 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  26.0 MiB	firewalld
 26.0 MiB +   2.5 MiB =  28.4 MiB	transmission-gtk
 29.2 MiB +   7.0 KiB =  29.2 MiB	expressvpnd
 33.6 MiB + 774.0 KiB =  34.3 MiB	fwupd
 33.3 MiB +   1.5 MiB =  34.8 MiB	Xwayland
 40.8 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  41.8 MiB	gvfsd-google
 43.7 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  45.1 MiB	goa-daemon
 37.8 MiB +  10.3 MiB =  48.0 MiB	Xorg
 43.5 MiB +  10.0 MiB =  53.5 MiB	evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess (4)
 58.4 MiB +   8.5 MiB =  66.9 MiB	nautilus
 73.8 MiB +   1.7 MiB =  75.5 MiB	gnome-software
 88.7 MiB +   6.6 MiB =  95.3 MiB	tracker-extract
 95.3 MiB +   1.5 MiB =  96.9 MiB	packagekitd
230.9 MiB +  25.2 MiB = 256.1 MiB	gnome-shell (2)
407.3 MiB +  12.5 MiB = 419.8 MiB	firefox
567.8 MiB + 121.4 MiB = 689.2 MiB	chrome (8)
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                          2.4 GiB
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Re: What kernel do you use

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Linux stevesmachine 4.8.0-8.2-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 4.8-11~bpo8 (2016-11-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux


Just got this hot off the OBS repo build, no problems so far. I think they're still trying to improve power management for SkyLake machines, which is why I'm trying newer kernels.
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Re: What kernel do you use

#85 Post by bester69 »

Im very very happy with Ubuntu's kernel 4.8.8 and btrfs filesystem, I've been testing it for 3 weeks or so and my computer works better than ever, so i think i will not update kernel in long time. 8)
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Re: What kernel do you use

#86 Post by obczik »

4.7.0-1-amd64 on stretch

The installation gave me 4.8.0-1, but it reported problems with Radeon and iwlwifi. These didn't seem to matter: no performance hit, but errors and warnings make me nervous.

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Re: What kernel do you use

#87 Post by Linadian »

Yet another 4.8.x update, currently at 4.8.9, seems to be working fine. I did notice multiple simultaneous SSD/HDD I/O operations are greatly improved over older kernel branches, now simultaneous operations requests are more or less performed equally, not so much with older kernel branches. This is a very welcomed improvement. :)
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Linux version 4.8.10-1-ARCH (builduser@tobias) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160830 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 21 11:55:43 CET 2016
Back to the vanilla Arch kernel for me, I couldn't notice (or measure) any improvement from the Zen patched version :?
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4.8.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 4.8-14~bpo8 (2016-11-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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Re: What kernel do you use

#90 Post by Jimmyfd »

On my Ubuntu Zesty I'm running kernel 4.9.0.1 which is a great kernel planning to upgrade that to 4.9 RC6 this evening

My laptop runs 4.9.rc1 haven't upgraded yet
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Jimmyfd wrote:On my Ubuntu Zesty I'm running kernel 4.9.0.1 which is a great kernel planning to upgrade that to 4.9 RC6 this evening
Why? What is to be gained?

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#92 Post by Jimmyfd »

Not much beside better wi-fi which is some what unstable right now, at least I hope wi-fi become more stable.
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Jimmyfd wrote:Not much beside better wi-fi which is some what unstable right now, at least I hope wi-fi become more stable.
I doubt it. Wifi stability is a function of a lot of variables including hardware in your machine and in router/modems.
there are several threads on that in this forum that might be worth your time to explore.

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Linux version 4.8.12-1-ARCH (builduser@tobias) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160830 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 2 12:17:46 CET 2016
Got it on Friday, forgot to update the thread :)
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#95 Post by bw123 »

millpond wrote:I use 3.16 on both 32 bit single core, and 64b C2Q systems. With an ancient 4350 ATI Radeon card.

I would really like to know what * advantages* a newer kernel could provide on an older system.

As the system aint broke, really trying to understand reasons to fix it....
I have an older radeon board, r430, and restarting Xserver through KDM would sometimes hang, and sometimes X would not start on a cold boot, with No Screen Found, No Device Found etc. (workaround - # service restart kdm). It seems much more stable using only backported kernel 4.6

On this little Dell, the intel driver had some similar issues, so the xserver-xorg-video-intel-2016520-bpo with the 4.6 kernel has been a good fix.

I started using backports back on squeeze, it can let you maintain an older system without upgrading so often IMO. I still have a wheezy machine running the 3.16 backport that must be three years now?
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