RE: wtf is opeysuse

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RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby GarryRicketson » 2016-09-14 01:29

In this thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=624647#p624645
The question asked, but the answer is "off topic', so I started the topic here.
by bw123 »
I'm kinda new, wtf is opeySUSE?

I suppose that is why you have never heard of a search engine;
This is a search engine: "google search". or "startpage.com", and there
are many others,..
This is how : What is is opeySUSE
It also helps to spell correctly, in this case the search engine recoginizes, that you probabley meant:
Did you mean: What is is openSUSE

So :
What is is openSUSE
And presto, almost like magick,..1st hit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE
There are many other results that will tell you all about Opensuse.

Acronyms such as "WTF", do not usually work to well, either, and it is really
difficult to translate, when people that don't know much English try to translate using a translator.
the post.
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby bw123 » 2016-09-14 01:34

Garry, I'm sorry brother, I must have hit the wrong wtfkey I have a little notebook and the keys are all wtfcrammed in.

Thanks for the info, and I'll be more careful typing my replies.
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby GarryRicketson » 2016-09-14 02:05

No problem really,...I kind of got carried away with the "how to do search" stuff,
so that is why I just put it in off topic, ,... any way there is a bunch of information
on "what is opensuse",..
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby bw123 » 2016-09-14 03:04

I kind of got carried away with the "how to do search" stuff,


No Way Garry you can't get carried away, man I like your style of providing information. You can't overdo information, I just sort of took offense, because Debian is my first love, after dabbling with Knoppix back in the day. I didn't think the article really got the whole point of Debian, which to me is the social contract, and the commitment to remain "free"

I know generally what OpenSUSE is, I know how important it is to Linux, and I know that I was just being cheeky with a few offhand comments.

I'm glad you understand, thanks a lot for what you do EVERY DAY!
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby montagdude » 2016-09-14 20:19

Not to be rude, but was a new thread really needed just to chastise someone about using a search engine?
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby HuangLao » 2016-09-15 18:18

montagdude wrote:Not to be rude, but was a new thread really needed just to chastise someone about using a search engine?


It was educational not chastisement.
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby debiman » 2016-09-15 18:32

montagdude wrote:Not to be rude, but was a new thread really needed just to chastise someone about using a search engine?

not to be rude, but did you read beyond post #1?

anyhow, i think it's sorted now, all peace.
whether a new thread was really needed, meh.
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby montagdude » 2016-09-16 14:43

debiman wrote:
montagdude wrote:Not to be rude, but was a new thread really needed just to chastise someone about using a search engine?

not to be rude, but did you read beyond post #1?

anyhow, i think it's sorted now, all peace.
whether a new thread was really needed, meh.
Agreed, it doesn't really matter. I probably shouldn't have made that comment in the first place. I guess I was just feeling a little cheeky that day.
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Re: RE: wtf is opeysuse

Postby GarryRicketson » 2016-09-16 17:02

Edit:by Ardouos »
bw123 wrote:
I'm kinda new

With nearly 2000 posts (at this moment in time) and an account that has been created in 2011, are you? :)


Well, to start with it is or was not "chastising" at all, at least based on the definition, I found.
I had to look it up, because I was not sure what that means.
When I looked at "google translate", https://translate.google.com/#en/es/chastise and see it means "castigar ", and it was not like that at all.

HuangLao wrote:
montagdude wrote:Not to be rude, but was a new thread really needed just to chastise someone about using a search engine?


It was educational not chastisement.

It is a combination, of being "cheeky" or sarcastic, I did also notice how long
'bw123' has been around, and figured they were being, "cheeky"
as admitted:
'bw123'---- I know that I was just being cheeky with a few offhand comments.

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Post by montagdude » 2016-09-14 14:19
Not to be rude, but was a new thread really needed

Yes, definitely a new thread, in this "off topic" forum, was/is the correct way to discuss
this, rather then de-rail the original topic.
As for if it was needed or not, I don't know on that. Most of the topics in the
off topic forum are not really needed or necessary , as far as that goes.
But members do enjoy them, and it makes the forum more interesting.

There might be a need to explain some things, especially to
real "newbies", whom almost never read the forum guidelines
Forum guidelines. Please read before first post!,

And how hard is that to understand "Before first post",...? But they never read it,
but any way, not "chastising", just a reminder.


One would think that the first places "newbies" or beginners would look would
be :Beginners Questions

Please Read.. What we expect you have already Done.

We welcome people that are new to Debian, and Linux, and it is understandable
that some may be so young, or have just recently gotten their first computer, it
is possible they really do not know much about Internet, search engines, etc, ...
It is not "chastising" , to try to take the time to demonstrate how to do a search,
and also try to explain the importance of writing correctly, there probably are more
non-English speaking members on the forum then English speaking, and many
probably need to use a translator , "google" is not the only one, but any way,
when people do not take the time to spell correctly, and use proper grammer,
it makes it almost impossible to translate what they wrote accurately.
Who knows, the only person that can answer your question , might only read,write and speak Chinese (for example), so they use a translator to read the questions, if it is
not written clearly, in good English, using proper grammar and spelling , then it
will not translate correctly, not even close. So they either cannot make sense of it,
or interpret it wrong, so it goes unanswered or worse , gets a wrong answer,....
And then, there is far to many literally "silly" questions, that can easily be answered
by doing a search, for example : What is pluma on Debian ?
There really is no need to ask that, it takes about 5 seconds to get the answer,..
and it can and does interrupt, or de-rails, topics when people ask things that
can be answered with a quick search.
Of course a "newbie", someone totally new to the Internet, might not know how to
do that,...
And of course many questions are much more complex, and not easily answered
with just doing searches, often it takes more and especially when the searches
yield many "conflicting" answers, obviously it is necessary to ask for some help to
confirm which answers are valid and may be of use,....
And then, there are the ones that either refuse to use "code boxes", or do not
know how, because they have never used a forum powered with software that
has that feature.
It might not seem important, but if you want people to read the
post, and be able to see the scripts,code, or out put clearly , and interpret it accurately,
then it is important.
But I suppose that would be a different "off topic" topic,... in any event , I don't
pay much attention to the posts that do not use code boxes, just "scan" them and
check for spam, or spamlinks,...
Again, it is understandable how a "newbie" might not know about the "code boxes",
either,..... suggesting or asking that they use them, is not "chastising" though.
I guess I have wasted enough time for now, and honestly I do have better things
to do. But it is great practice at typing and writing,... :D
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