Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigration

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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby HuangLao » 2017-02-10 19:49

RU55EL wrote:
HuangLao wrote:just an FYI, because the word Fascism keeps coming up, especially with regards to the Nazis and Hitler. The Nazis were a National Socialist Party, ie: they are Socialists. Also, Socialism, Communism, Fascism are the same thing....different clothes on the same ideology. Communism and Fascism are both fast routes to Socialism. End history lesson here.


This is the Debian forum!

I think you are getting a little too far off topic!


Wow, Thank You, I never noticed that listed at the top of the page. Seems to be as on topic as any of the other posts. :wink:
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby RU55EL » 2017-02-10 20:10

You are welcome. Sometimes it is very easy to get off track in the heat of the moment.

The Linux foundation always seemed a little too commercial for me, but it's not like I'm an expert. I tend to follow the Free Software Foundation, but they also have their political axe to grind. Politics...you just can't escape it!
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby oswaldkelso » 2017-02-10 21:23

HuangLao wrote:just an FYI, because the word Fascism keeps coming up, especially with regards to the Nazis and Hitler. The Nazis were a National Socialist Party, ie: they are Socialists. Also, Socialism, Communism, Fascism are the same thing....different clothes on the same ideology. Communism and Fascism are both fast routes to Socialism. End history lesson here.


There are so many alternative facts in that post it defies belief. I really wonder if someone has been putting blue pills in your water. Please. Try taking a few red ones and the world will be a better place :wink:
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby vbrummond » 2017-02-10 21:58

Talking about politics is useless, but it's certainly within their right to, don't say "stick to tech" or other rubbish. Anyway, if you want change go do it. Don't stay at home.

Edit, I think you need to look at the "nationism" part of it to get your first clue who they are similar to. Spread your fake news elsewhere.
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby RU55EL » 2017-02-10 22:23

There is no need to "stick to tech", but the subject matter should touch on Debian or at least linux.

7. Stay on topic. Sometimes threads morph into something completely off topic, this is unavoidable when a bunch of people communicate. However, try to limit the off topic discussions to the off topic category. Long off topic discussions in other categories might get moved or locked.
Discussions in "Off topic" should still be in the spirit of this board, that is related to Linux/ Computers/ Software etc. Political, religious or racial discussions do not belong on this board.
Avoid 'thread hijacking'. Unless your question is directly related to the thread's topic, start a new one.


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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby acewiza » 2017-02-11 13:15

RU55EL wrote:There is no need to "stick to tech", but the subject matter should touch on Debian or at least linux.

7. Stay on topic. Sometimes threads morph into something completely off topic, this is unavoidable when a bunch of people communicate. However, try to limit the off topic discussions to the off topic category. Long off topic discussions in other categories might get moved or locked.
Discussions in "Off topic" should still be in the spirit of this board, that is related to Linux/ Computers/ Software etc. Political, religious or racial discussions do not belong on this board.
Avoid 'thread hijacking'. Unless your question is directly related to the thread's topic, start a new one.


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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-02-11 14:22

From:http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10653
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But the key word is "might", that does not mean it deffinately would be .
I guess it depends on what the admins and mods decide, and also how
other members feel.
I am not going to say any more because it would be more politcal and religious,
and not really related to the original topic,
Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigration

That is nice to know the Linux Foundation does not support the insane policies being
made by the greedy , warmongers and facists in the US.
It does just go to show though, how insane, the United States is,...first look at the
history, how they came from Europe, slaughtered 1000s of the natives, and stole the land.
Imagine how much constructive and good things could be done with the amount of money that will be needed to build their stupid wall, and the greedy nation, not only wants to build this wall, but intends to force a very poor country to pay for it.
The US is a very greedy nation, and they expect every body else to do everything for them. Instead of faceing the truth, and realizing they are the problem, they blame the rest of the world, and go running to "war" ,...... destruction.
They create a tangled web of paper work , that is so complicated it is almost impossible for anyone to get their "documents" to enter the country legally, and there
are not any offices in the border towns where one can get a visa, process the paperwork, etc. In other words they make laws saying one must have there documents, but the means to obtain the documents does not exist.
The money used to build the stupid wall, could be used to build Offices, at every border town. where anyone wishing to go into the country can apply for the visa, and go through the process, and in a reasonable amount of time,...as it is now it can take years to get a visa, just to visit,...
I know, I am speaking from experience . All though I was born in the US, and have my passport, etc. My wife was not born in the US, and we have been trying for over 5 years to get her visa so she could go with me, if and when I go there. But any way, now the way things are in the US, we do not have any desire to go into the fascist country, and besides that since I am retired, no need to go there to work.
Any way, I wasn't going to say anything,...but did,...it is much more complex
In a nut shell, the US, needs to stop going to war with the rest of the world, and start
looking at their selfs, and working inside their own country to make it "great" again.
It was a great nation, North America,..some 200+ years ago, before the warmongers
came to The Nation,
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby golinux » 2017-02-11 14:50

Yup. To 'make America great again', return it to the indigenous peoples who where displaced by colonizing European immigrants. And then deport all 'immigrants' and their descendants to their point of origin.
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2017-02-11 15:15

GarryRicketson wrote:how insane, the United States is,...first look at the
history, how they came from Europe, slaughtered 1000s of the natives, and stole the land.

Hey, c'mon Garry, that's not fair — they were British then :mrgreen:
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby alan stone » 2017-02-11 17:03

GarryRicketson wrote:In a nut shell, the US, needs to stop going to war with the rest of the world,...

It's much more than that.

Here's why and some further food for thought: here, here, here and here.
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-02-11 17:21

Any way the Linux Foundation has the right idea maybe,..and from what I understand, or read , Linux is being used by NASA and the space program,
To be fair, it really is not a matter of where people came from, and race has nothing to do with , humanity is humanity,...we are all the same species,....I think, but if one let's religion come into play, and combined with some people really believe they evolved from apes, I do not mean to sound "racist",..but apes are not human ,..
Other believe they were created by some diety, but really after all said and done,
it is a world wide problem, effecting the entire human race, and also even the animals
on this planet,... we are running out of room,...
Ideally, if some how humanity could start being civilized, and get rid of the "warmongers", instead of spending billions building walls to try to keep the other humans out, and also a wall serves another purpose, it keeps the slaves closed in,
much more difficult for them to escape,... walls have 2 sides.
Ideally, if humans would learn to work to gether, in unity, and instead of waste billions
of dollars, or whatever currency, and billions of man hours, building stupid walls, and building destructive weapons , etc,... the warmongers contribute nothing, only destruction, misery, and suffering,.. in a civilized world , the people would work together, spending and using the resources available to go deeper into space and the oceans, developeing the means to live in space, and travel , and find other planets, stars, etc,...places that are rich and abundant in the minerals, and other resources needed to support life as we know it,...
Unfortunately the world, this planet called earth, is not at all civilized, and is rapidly headed for it's own self destruction, the warmongers are just a mindless mechanism,
like a virus or bot, they will eventually destroy it all, and life will cease to exist on this planet.
Life is eternal, and will all ways continue , in other places where the living are civilized,
and capable of all ways living.
The key being to figure out how to escape this world, and get to the other places, before the warmongers destroy it all.
It is all kind of cosmic,...... Thinking about how carbon is created, and why carbon is essential,..
There all ways will be a sort of endless cycle , of creation, burning, destrcution, carbon, and ashes (dust) are what is left, and then it all starts over again.
There is nothing racist involved, it is all one race, humanity, it is divided into 2 parts,
1 part will cease to exist, the other part will continue in it's journey through time.
Any way, it does not matter to me, I certainly have no control over these things,
so I just keep faith the my "diety" protects me, and when it is time I can go to a better place, with a minimum of suffering.
Fortunately for me, I was blessed with what some people consider a disorder , or "illness", but in many ways it is a blessing,... If and when things are really bad, or the pain is to much to bear, I simply go to sleep,. a very deep sleep , and am no longer aware of the pain or anything,... plus the bonus is the dreams are so real and all ways
beautiful,... but any way , that would be another topic.
@Alanstone,
It's much more than that.

Posted while I was writing,...yes I know,... the whole mess is much more complex then just that,... humanity is infected with something that is driving it towards it's own destruction.
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby golinux » 2017-02-11 17:24

GarryRicketson wrote:In a nut shell, the US, needs to stop going to war with the rest of the world,...

Indeed. And when the truth is out, there is panic in the MIC. The Imperial City Can’t Stand The Truth About Its ‘Bloody Hands’
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby acewiza » 2017-02-11 20:09

I wouldn't want to live in a world where the U.S. did not fight the wars it has, up to this point. All the doom and gloom, chicken little bullshit aside, history has and will continue to show U.S. militarism to be the good guys most of the time.
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby oswaldkelso » 2017-02-11 22:20

The US and UK's Military and their search for the non existent WMDs and the protection of access to Oil has lead to the crisis we have today. Trump the climate change denier he is realizes that we are at peak oil and buys the election of the back of coal. The US having the worlds largest reserves and knowing we're nowhere near peak coal. He will aim to stay in power by buying votes from the jobs he can create whilst polluting everyone else on the planet. I wish he would put a roof on his great wall and seal the damn place up. But we all know that won't happen, America first means everyone else second. This is not how you make friends.

edit: PS Can we do a swap for all the Brexitiers for the nice Americans
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Re: Linux Foundation Exec. Director's Statement on Immigrati

Postby HuangLao » 2017-02-11 22:53

grabbing popcorn as this thread just turned into an antiX "In a Greek kafeneio" thread. :mrgreen:
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