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[ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-07 17:55
by pylkko

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-08 12:47
by Fernando Negro
The leaks were made by officials within the CIA itself - as part of the internal war (between nationalists and globalists) that broke out inside government agencies, since Trump won the elections: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGsK5zXyjiE (Here's the biography of the person denouncing it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pie ... ional_life)

(Even "WikiLeaks", itself, is a known CIA front organization: http://trineday.com/paypal_store/produc ... index.html)

Interesting times, to say the least - the ones that we are living in... :)

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-08 14:51
by acewiza
I would like to know if there remains today ANY source for un-filtered, un-spun, simple, basic, reliable just-the-news, just-the-facts, please.

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-08 15:59
by alan stone
acewiza wrote:I would like to know if there remains today ANY source for un-filtered, un-spun, simple, basic, reliable just-the-news, just-the-facts, please.

Get the news from a comedian? For example: here or here. :wink:

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-08 16:03
by wizard10000
acewiza wrote:I would like to know if there remains today ANY source for un-filtered, un-spun, simple, basic, reliable just-the-news, just-the-facts, please.


This is the reason I went back to getting my news from twitter. I don't believe there is an unbiased news source since media companies are supposed to be making money, not news - so they pander to their audience.

My twitter feed has probably a dozen and a half news sources from both sides of the aisle - my feed is a bit left-leaning but I also watch Bill O'Reilly on Fox almost every night. I figure that if I read them all I'l get a more balanced view of what's really happening :)

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-08 16:09
by Segfault
acewiza wrote:I would like to know if there remains today ANY source for un-filtered, un-spun, simple, basic, reliable just-the-news, just-the-facts, please.

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/

^^ Sure. :P

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-08 17:16
by Fernando Negro
wizard10000 wrote:I don't believe there is an unbiased news source

+1

As a former "citizen journalist" myself, I can tell you that, there is no such thing as an "independent" news source.

(Pardon my following English...)

No matter how much one tries to be "independent", one's point-of-view always ends up reflecting itself in the way that the news are reported by that same person. And, the mere act of choosing what to report and what not to, eliminates by itself, and right at the start, any supposed "independence".

The best way to really know what's happening, or has happened, is to listen to - or read from - the different parts involved - or that are reporting on an event - and make your own judgement.

(And, whenever you want to know whose interests some news source represents, just "follow the money"...)

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-08 18:16
by Fernando Negro
But, in this case, being the subject in question a mere (public) release of documents,

You can all just go to where they're published - https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ - and read the information yourselves:

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/index.html

(And, if you want, also use the "Ctrl+F" option in your browsers to search for "Linux" references...)

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-09 05:29
by alan stone
wizard10000 wrote:I figure that if I read them all I'l get a more balanced view of what's really happening :)

And considering this, read history :idea:

EDIT: corrected quote reference, re: remark in the post below

Re: [ARTICLE] New large US mass surveillance leak

PostPosted: 2017-03-09 12:56
by acewiza
alan stone wrote:
wizard10000 wrote:
acewiza wrote: I figure that if I read them all I'l get a more balanced view of what's really happening :)

And considering this, read history :idea:

No, acewiza did not write that. :roll: It would be nice to have that kind of time, but...