GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

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GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby RogerRoger » 2017-09-05 01:50

I am running Q4OS 1.8.7, which uses Debian 8 Jessie, and would like to install gtk-youtube-viewer (webpage: https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer). There is no Debian package by default, so I need to install from source. I have never installed software from source before, and am clueless about what to do, or even where to download the source from. I'm not the most experienced Linux user, and have virtually no idea what I'm looking at while on the GitHub page. If someone could give me dumbed-down instructions to install this tool, I would really appreciate it. (FYI: I have tried minitube already; it doesn't do what I need or want it to do.)
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-09-05 02:26

Did you try this:
How to install a package from source on Debian
First hit:
https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial

And did you even try to read some of what it has on the Git Hub site:

https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer/blob/master/README.md
INSTALLATION

To install youtube-viewer, run:

perl Build.PL
sudo ./Build installdeps
sudo ./Build install

To install gtk-youtube-viewer along with youtube-viewer, run:

perl Build.PL --gtk
sudo ./Build installdeps
sudo ./Build install

All it really is is a perl script, down load it and follow the very straight forward instructions, if you have problems with it , the author has provided a means to ask or report the problems:
https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer/issues

GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Post by RogerRoger » 2017-09-04 19:50
I am running Q4OS 1.8.7, which uses Debian 8 Jessie,

I kind of missed this,... I don't know what "Q4OS" is , and don't feel
like searching on that as well, but if it is not Debian, then maybe better to ask at
a Q4OS forum,..
In relation to Debian, before doing anything you should read this as well:
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

=== edited ===
I did do a search, Q4OS is NOT debian, at all, it is a mixture of all sorts of things :
As reported recently, we have made several significant modifications in Q4OS Orion to be ready for installation under other Debian based operating systems, so anyone is now enabled to gain Q4OS Orion based on Ubuntu as well as Devuan.

@OP, you really would be better off asking them on the q4os forum, it is NOT debian, and they are the only ones that will know exactly what you may need to do. If it has "perl" , then you shouldn't have any problem running the scripts shown at git hub, but honestly , this is the last place I would ask for help, it has nothing to do with Debian.
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby Dai_trying » 2017-09-05 08:07

Q4OS IS actually Debian with the Trinity Desktop Environment, although the devs have created other versions (Ubuntu/Devuan). But I do agree with Garry that the Q4OS Forum would be a much better place to ask your questions, asking them here will likely result in more of the same type of comments from other users.
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby arochester » 2017-09-05 08:20

Q4OS IS actually Debian


?

Debian is Debian. Q4OS might be a derivative, So are MANY others.
"Something to be aware of: Debian is a core or source distribution. This means there are many Debian-based distributions. THEY ARE NOT DEBIAN."
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby Dai_trying » 2017-09-05 13:20

Like I said, Q4OS IS Debian with the Trinity Desktop, it is not PURE Debian obviously but I don't expect the purist Debianites to accept that...
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-09-05 13:51

In any event, the instructions for installing this "YouTube Viewer"
are quite clear , on the git hub site.
There is the read me file, and also 2 binaries , it appears to all be
Perl, so as long as the OP has perl and any needed modules installed
there shouldn't be any problem installing it.
And if they do have any problems, or need additional details , the author
provides this: https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer/issues
The instructions are clear:
https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer/blob/master/README.md

by RogerRoger »If someone could give me dumbed-down instructions to install this tool

The author has provided very good instructions, I am not sure what is meant by "dumped-down".
by RogerRoger »or even where to download the source from.

Again, that is very clear :
https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer/tree/master/bin

by RogerRoger » I'm not the most experienced Linux user, and have virtually no idea what I'm looking at while on the GitHub page.

This indicates that maybe it is not a good idea to be even thinking about
doing this , until later when you understand a little more, some knowledge
on using "perl" would help, to install perl :
Code: Select all
apt-get install perl

Of course if any one wants to try to explain every little detail, etc, please
feel free to do so.
Maybe Stevepusser will package this for the OP, and make a package that
can be installed on Debian,..??
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby RogerRoger » 2017-09-05 14:31

Thank you all for your responses.
Based on the comments you gave, I finally figured out what I needed to do, or rather, what I was doing wrong. Simply opening a terminal and running the install instructions listed in the README file did not work; I realized that I had to download the entire Git directory as a .zip, extract it, and run the listed commands within the extracted folder. First time ever using GitHub; thanks for bearing with me.
Since the topic came up, I would like to clarify that Q4OS is in fact derived from Debian (it is listed as based upon the "Stable" branch at http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=q4os).
Thanks to everyone in the community who weighed in on this topic.
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby wizard10000 » 2017-09-05 14:48

RogerRoger wrote:...I would like to clarify that Q4OS is in fact derived from Debian


According to Distrowatch so are 132 other active distributions

https://distrowatch.com/search.php?base ... strosearch

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Hopefully you can see the issue with supporting Debian derivatives as Debian derivatives are Not Debian. As an example recently I decided I was gonna try to dist-upgrade Debian Unstable (pure Debian) to KDE Neon User Edition (a Debian derivative). KDE devs told me this was a terrible idea but since I was gonna blow the machine away anyhow I decided to have a little fun.

As expected, the breakage was spectacular. That's one reason we try to steer folks who use Debian derivatives to that distro's support forum - we have no way of knowing what's Debian and what isn't ;)
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-09-05 14:55

Well, so are linux mint, ubuntu, and who knows how many other distros,
(derivatives)
But after all said and done, none of them are the original, Debian.
And most use their own repositories.
why are the other Linux distros not Debian, even though they are based on Debian
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3.2 But what about Knoppix, Linux Mint Debian Edition, Ubuntu, and others?

They are not Debian; they are Debian based. Though there are many similarities and commonalities between them, there are also crucial differences.

All these distributions have their own merits and are suited to some specific set of users. For more information, read Software distributions based on Debian available at the Debian website.

"and others" would include q4os.
There are a few people that would like to see this forum change , and be a
general Linux forum, or general Debian based distros, including Kali, q40s, ubuntu, linux mint etc,.... but that would be another topic.
In the mean time it is still " Debian User Forums".
However, discussion of other distros, problems with them, etc is fine in the "off topic" forum.
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby deborah-and-ian » 2017-09-05 15:52

Debian with a bitrotting desktop compiled from a 3rd party is not Debian anymore. Sorry. Apart from that, this question could have easily been answered by looking through the repositories. Any decent video player can open Youtube video adresses just like any local video. MPV, Totem, MPlayer, VLC... Youtube-dl can download the videos. Those programmes can do the same to many other video sites btw.
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby RogerRoger » 2017-09-05 16:12

Thanks for the tip, GarryRicketson. I'll be taking questions like this to the "off-topic" forum from now on. :)
GarryRicketson wrote:Well, so are linux mint, ubuntu, and who knows how many other distros,
(derivatives)
But after all said and done, none of them are the original, Debian.
And most use their own repositories.
why are the other Linux distros not Debian, even though they are based on Debian
==================
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html
3.2 But what about Knoppix, Linux Mint Debian Edition, Ubuntu, and others?

They are not Debian; they are Debian based. Though there are many similarities and commonalities between them, there are also crucial differences.

All these distributions have their own merits and are suited to some specific set of users. For more information, read Software distributions based on Debian available at the Debian website.

"and others" would include q4os.
There are a few people that would like to see this forum change , and be a
general Linux forum, or general Debian based distros, including Kali, q40s, ubuntu, linux mint etc,.... but that would be another topic.
In the mean time it is still " Debian User Forums".
However, discussion of other distros, problems with them, etc is fine in the "off topic" forum.
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby stevepusser » 2017-09-05 18:27

Exactly what do you need your viewer to do that minitube doesn't?

I know that at least three applications in my multimedia repo handle Youtube video search, view, and a couple of them can also download the video: SMTube, QMplay2, and Kodi with an easily installable addon. Youtube-dl-gui and ClipGrab just download video from there and many other sites via the URLs.

I have Jessie and Stretch packages for these. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=127574

Youtube-viewer-antix may be a fork of GTK Youtube Viewer; at least they both are Perl programs...don't know why the packager switched it to binary-arch instead of "all" arch, though--Perl is arch-independent: http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/jessie/pool ... wer-antix/
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby RogerRoger » 2017-09-06 17:42

stevepusser I am working with an old computer with limited graphics, RAM and CPU capabilities; I was hoping to install a lightweight desktop client for the viewing, downloading, and overall general surfing of YouTube without a full-blown browser. GTK YouTube Viewer offers a very helpful drop-down menu for choosing a resolution that won't overpower my machine; if I open a video URL in VLC or SMPlayer, it automatically selects the maximum quality available, which I'm certain would brick my desktop and require a force quit. Minitube is out of the question as well.
stevepusser wrote:Exactly what do you need your viewer to do that minitube doesn't?
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby stevepusser » 2017-09-06 21:08

It sounds like SMTube is what you want. The version in my repo is a lot newer than what's in the Jessie repo...Youtube is constantly changing their API to prevent outside viewers and downloaders from working, so I don't know if the Jessie version even works anymore. SMTube has the option to set the default resolution, and uses an external media player to show the video, so you can pick the one that gives you the best performance.

Didn't minitube remove the option to download video years ago? Maybe you tried an olde version. Anyway, if I have SMTube open a video with a download manager like Uget instead of a media player, that downloads the video. The developer treads a bit lightly here, since Google doesn't want users to be able to download the video.

QMPlay2 has the same options, but downloads and keeps current the youtube-dl script to do the download work. It also just plays the video itself instead of using an external player.
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Re: GTK YouTube Viewer in Q4OS?

Postby RogerRoger » 2017-09-07 22:46

stevepusser Thanks for the info. I tested QMplay2, and it works great. :D
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