I didn't choose GNU/Linux because it's free..

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Re: I didn't choose GNU/Linux because it's free..

Postby SweetLou » 2007-04-04 02:15

thamarok wrote:.
Many say that the strength of GNU/Linux would be that it is free as in free speech freedom whatever, but that isn't the case (for me, atleast). I would happily pay for Debian if it was commercial,

Huh? Pay for freedom to do what you want? I am confused by your statement. You seem to say that you don't use GNU/Linux because of it's freedom, you would happily pay for it. Does this mean you would be happy to pay for an OS as long as your 5 reasons were met, yet you didn't have the freedom to do what you want?

If you don't care about FOSS, there are other distros that are not as free as Debian, so why did you go with Debian instead of another?

For me, it wasn't really the free as in speech that got me to use Linux, but that I wanted to try something new and I could download it for free as in beer. Once I started to use Linux, I gradually moved over to Debian because of it's policies towards FOSS and because it is the best distro that I have found, easy to use, install, great packaging system, great community to get help, etc. Now, I am a big fan of free software and I try to only use free software. I can't totally since I need to check webpages in IE and some other things like that. If someone made a free browser that acted like IE, I would use it instead of installing WINE and IE.
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Postby thamarok » 2007-04-04 08:17

Well yes, I would pay for freedom.
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Postby morax » 2007-04-04 09:08

Dargor wrote:Linux is more interesting/leet'er and it doesnt assume I'm a noob.


That is the one of the main reasons that I chose Linux too.
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Postby Dargor » 2007-04-04 09:55

morax wrote:
Dargor wrote:Linux is more interesting/leet'er and it doesnt assume I'm a noob.


That is the one of the main reasons that I chose Linux too.


sorry which one, i stated three reasons.
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Postby morax » 2007-04-04 14:20

Dargor wrote:
morax wrote:
Dargor wrote:Linux is more interesting/leet'er and it doesnt assume I'm a noob.


That is the one of the main reasons that I chose Linux too.


sorry which one, i stated three reasons.


It doesn't assume that I am a noob. :P
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Postby plugwash » 2007-04-04 16:42

thamarok wrote:Well yes, I would pay for freedom.

but how much freedom would you really have? if you want to make people pay for something that means that your license can't allow redistribution and that is a major freedom gone.
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Postby GMouse » 2007-04-04 16:45

Which is why things like donations and commisioning the devs are great alternatives.
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Postby Hevoos » 2007-04-04 16:50

plugwash: Isn't Red Hat open source? You have to pay for it but you still have the source code, well atleast for fedora which is quite the same.
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Postby plugwash » 2007-04-04 17:07

source for all of the free software components of rhel is indeed freely availible and you can download rebuilds of them freely from many sources. People who buy rhel aren't really buying the free software that makes up the bulk of it they are buying the support of redhat and the eligibility for support from vendors of non free software for linux.
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Postby Dargor » 2007-04-04 19:29

heaps of people have paid for freedom, most recently African Americans. it wasn't cheep.

just because they paid for it doesn't make them any less free.
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Postby thamarok » 2007-04-05 15:50

Note: GNU/Linux is free as in freedom, I know, but if it was commercial, I would pay for it. That's what I mean.
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Postby DeanLinkous » 2007-04-05 18:49

it is commercial
I will *sell* you the debian netinst cd for $1,000,000
interested?
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Postby thamarok » 2007-04-05 20:14

DeanLinkous wrote:it is commercial
I will *sell* you the debian netinst cd for $1,000,000
interested?
In that case, I would buy Windows, because of overpricing.
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Postby DeanLinkous » 2007-04-05 21:17

Okay what if both windows and linux were $500? which would you choose?

Trying it because it is free(cost) and then coming to realize the importance of free(dom) is a good thing. Only using it because it is cheap and you want to turn it into a *cheap* windows clone is something else.

I have windowsXP and it costs me nothing. I do not get viruses with windows XP either. I find windows to be stable. I use about the same apps on both. Both OSs provide the drivers that I need for my laptop. I could care less about debugging data since I wouldn't know how to do much with it anyway.

But free software makes sure I am in control of my system. It guarantees that I decide what is best for me. Free(dom) is why I use GNU and linux too... ;)
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Postby thamarok » 2007-04-06 07:30

Well yeah, now I realize the importance of freedom too.. :oops:
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