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Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
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Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
The "Veteran UNIX Admins" have announced the release of Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0.0, a new stable build from the project that forked Debian in late 2014 to build a systemd-free variant of the popular community distribution. Here announcement.
We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is finally available. We would like to thank the entire Devuan community for the continued
support, feedback, and collaboration. The efforts of Devuan developers are now focused on the third Devuan release codenamed Beowulf (Planet nr. 38086). Preliminary installer images should be ready for testing soon.
We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is finally available. We would like to thank the entire Devuan community for the continued
support, feedback, and collaboration. The efforts of Devuan developers are now focused on the third Devuan release codenamed Beowulf (Planet nr. 38086). Preliminary installer images should be ready for testing soon.
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
Congratulations on the release! I've read the announcement, it's all good. They provide non-free firmware by default, so I guess that they chose a more pragmatic approach. There is a way to remove it via script, if I read correctly. But I cringed a little at the opening part:
Just try to keep it simple and neutral, guysDear Init Freedom Lovers
Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you!
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
Good to see! And I wish them all the best.
Shame it ships with libsystemd0 though.
Shame it ships with libsystemd0 though.
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
Hearty congratulations to the Devuan Team!
EDIT: ah, I see it is an option in the expert installer, very nice
EDIT2: suggestion: make free the default unless non-free is actually needed by the hardware?
Yay!Release notes wrote:The expert install mode now offers a choice of
either SysVinit or OpenRC as init system.
That's a shame, is there any thought of making a free ISO image available?Wheelerof4te wrote:They provide non-free firmware by default
EDIT: ah, I see it is an option in the expert installer, very nice
EDIT2: suggestion: make free the default unless non-free is actually needed by the hardware?
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
maybe one day experimental will figure out how to drop all the essential and required deps on that lib to make Debian a true OS of choice.
maybe wasted ions now that we are looking at 5gHz 32 and 28 core + threading machines.
darn socks
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on a seriouser note, what frequency is microwave in the oven? on the cell tower ? from the processor?
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maybe wasted ions now that we are looking at 5gHz 32 and 28 core + threading machines.
darn socks
embroidered matrices
weave of the future
on a seriouser note, what frequency is microwave in the oven? on the cell tower ? from the processor?
NO CARRIER
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
Non-free firmware by default..? Thanks, but no thanks.
Systemd might be garbage, but it is at least open source garbage.
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
There's been conversation about this at d1g.
I've only built devuan systems from chroot and never had nonfree software installed. I read somewhere that you can disable it during the installer but haven't ran the stable ASCII installer.
Also, many (if not most) devuan derivates ship without non free firmware.
Follow-up: I tried out the devuan installer image, and netinstalled ASCII stable. (I used lxqt 'cause I've wanted to check it out, but all other installer options are defaults.) The screenshot below reveals that no proprietary or non-free software was installed.
https://preview.ibb.co/j3hKYT/Virtual_B ... _43_27.png
I've only built devuan systems from chroot and never had nonfree software installed. I read somewhere that you can disable it during the installer but haven't ran the stable ASCII installer.
Also, many (if not most) devuan derivates ship without non free firmware.
Refracta and crunkbong, at least, keep the non-free .debs in a folder within the home folder for optional installation during a live session. Is this kind of like what you meant?Head_on_a_Stick wrote:suggestion: make free the default unless non-free is actually needed by the hardware
Follow-up: I tried out the devuan installer image, and netinstalled ASCII stable. (I used lxqt 'cause I've wanted to check it out, but all other installer options are defaults.) The screenshot below reveals that no proprietary or non-free software was installed.
https://preview.ibb.co/j3hKYT/Virtual_B ... _43_27.png
the crunkbong project: scripts, operating system, the list goes on...bester69 wrote:There is nothing to install in linux, from time to time i go to google searching for something fresh to install in linux, but, there is nothing
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
What an excellent idean_hologram wrote:keep the non-free .debs in a folder within the home folder for optional installation during a live session
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
Yes, if you do an expert install with a mirror, you will be asked about contrib and non-free, and your choice will be respected. We would like the installer to always ask, but apparently it won't cooperate with us.That's a shame, is there any thought of making a free ISO image available?
EDIT: ah, I see it is an option in the expert installer, very nice
EDIT2: suggestion: make free the default unless non-free is actually needed by the hardware?
I've thought about making free-only live isos, but for right now, there are the downstream remixes as mentioned above. I've also thought about making live isos for each of the desktops, but that's a big bite to chew. Doing both of those things would bring me from making two isos to making 24.
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Re: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable
^ Thanks for the reply!
EDIT: I use this to clense my system:
No, that does sound like a lot of work, I'm sure the expert installer option will be sufficient for anybody fortunate enough not to need blobs.fsmithred wrote:I've thought about making free-only live isos, but for right now, there are the downstream remixes as mentioned above. I've also thought about making live isos for each of the desktops, but that's a big bite to chew. Doing both of those things would bring me from making two isos to making 24.
EDIT: I use this to clense my system:
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# apt install vrms
# apt purge $(vrms -s)
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