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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby Fernando Negro » 2018-07-28 22:01

paint-it-black wrote:I would rather it booted powered off with not even a beacon, and then I set the power, then if it has to be used, can turn it back on.

If you're talking about a laptop that already came with this type of wireless cards, I'm under the impression that the more recent type of BIOSes (UEFI ones) have an option to enable or disable this type of components. And so, whenever you want to use the latter, you'll just have to reboot the computer to access the BIOS menu.

(You should, nevertheless, explore every option available in the BIOS menus to learn about your computer's capabilities.)

If it's a desktop computer, if you'll be the only one using it, and if it will be a rare occurrence to want to use wireless cards... It's not that much of a trouble to just open the computer, once in a while, to plug or unplug a card like this.

paint-it-black wrote:They are like two people in a busy crowd screaming at each other to be heard, because everyone else is also screaming at each other to be heard. It is the stupidest default configuration choice possible. Makes me wonder what the heck my colleagues were thinking when they designed this stuff.
(...)
Now the hackers in the building down the street are only getting three bars reception from it, instead of the five they were getting before.
(...)
But there are also security issues here (...) it is also a bad deal if a hacker can start dumping data off the machine during boot, via a wireless network link. It really is best that the WIFI is not used, but if it must, it is best that it does not go far. Same for Bluetooth Etc.

Engineers at companies just do what they're told, and create things within a set of parameters determined, or allowed, by their bosses. So, the question here is: What are the people who run this or that company thinking about, when they decrease security? And, the answer is: Backdoors and Surveillance. (Or, in other words: Control.)

That's why you can, nowadays, open a car from a distance, for example. That's why an "Internet of Things" is planned. Etc...
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby stevepusser » 2018-07-29 18:05

sunrat wrote:EMF sensitivity is a thing which affects people no matter what scientific research says. Whether it's purely psychological or has some physical basis makes no difference to those who suffer from it. I'm disappointed so many have sidestepped the actual question posed here to rant.

Bluetooth and wifi should be able to be disabled in the BIOS/UEFI. If you actually want to use wifi it's more tricky but as you've found a way to limit power there's probably a way to have it do that from boot. Likely not many people have considered throttling wifi power so there may not be much advice forthcoming. Maybe you can work out something with rfkill to boot with it off and manually start it.


Millions of people also knew that witchcraft was a real thing in the Middle Ages...

Barry Marshall is a doctor who went against the prevailing scientific consensus, proved that stomach ulcers are a bacterial infection by giving himself the disease and curing it with antibiotics, and won fame, fortune, and the Nobel Prize as a result.

Any of the "EM sensitives" have been welcome for many years to enjoy the same results by undergoing or conducting their own blinded tests to show it's really caused by EM. An eleven year old became famous and published in JAMA by conducting an extremely simple and similar test to show that therapeutic touch practitioners could not detect the "body energy fields" that they claimed to--not a single one of the woo peddlers had bothered to test themselves, because, like "EM sensitives", they know they are right no matter what any tests show. There's no point in trying to make a logical argument with someone like that, only to try to keep them from spreading more misinformation.
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby CwF » 2018-07-29 20:16

I share the skepticism, however... Various iron overload type diseases, genetic hemachromatosis, and the like can lend some sensitivities most would never experience. There have been experiments... With 35+ grams (1-3 average) dissolved and deposited in my body I most certainly could feel strong fields. MRI's and CAT scans would raise my temp, and I can feel the pulses... Never forget that almost all humanity has ever known, at first was wrong. Even today there are many things on the table we think we understand that are ripe for a flip. Ignorance is our default, the lack of it usually is only our pride.
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby golinux » 2018-07-29 20:58

Microwave also does nasty stuff to the food cooked that way. It's no wonder our life expectancy is plummeting. I first read this in the 90s and decided I'd never have a microwave. Slow food on flame is the best way to go.
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby stevepusser » 2018-07-29 23:08

golinux wrote:Microwave also does nasty stuff to the food cooked that way. It's no wonder our life expectancy is plummeting. I first read this in the 90s and decided I'd never have a microwave. Slow food on flame is the best way to go.


What stats show that life expectancy is plummenting? That's news to me!

Next you'll tell me Mercola is an anti-vaxxer nutjob, too!

Oh wait, he is...https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/9-reas ... ural-news/
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby golinux » 2018-07-30 00:05

stevepusser wrote:
golinux wrote:Microwave also does nasty stuff to the food cooked that way. It's no wonder our life expectancy is plummeting. I first read this in the 90s and decided I'd never have a microwave. Slow food on flame is the best way to go.
I read that article on paper long before there was much of an internet and no one had heard of Mercola. That's a reprint, not something he wrote.

What stats show that life expectancy is plummeting? That's news to me!
Search on "life expectancy lower". It's been going down for the last few years and just mentioned on the news last week.

We also have the highest infant mortality rate of all developed countries.

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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby sunrat » 2018-07-30 00:10

stevepusser wrote:What stats show that life expectancy is plummenting? That's news to me!

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/21/heal ... ncy-study/

Next you'll tell me Mercola is an anti-vaxxer nutjob, too!

Oh wait, he is...https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/9-reas ... ural-news/

Indeed he is an anti-vaxxer nutjob. He does post some good exercise and dietary advice. As with anything on the internet, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He is in the business of selling stuff after all, and that often leads to a conflict between ethics and profits.

I also don't have a microwave. I do think this is an excellent idea - http://www.vhemt.org/
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby golinux » 2018-07-30 01:13

sunrat wrote:I do think this is an excellent idea - http://www.vhemt.org/

Thank you for that sunrat! I figured all that out before I was a teenager and most thankfully avoided the trap of replication.
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby jibberjabber » 2018-07-30 02:14

I will admit, I hate food that has been heated or cooked in a micro wave, it just plain does not really taste like it should, in fact it is horrible. Don't need some scientist to tell me about that.

He is in the business of selling stuff after all, and that often leads to a conflict between ethics and profits.

Change the "he" to They :
They are in the business of selling stuff after all, and that often leads to a conflict between ethics and profits.
Most of it is all marketing, including the propaganda about wifi radiation poisoning, etc,... give it some thought.
Maybe it was all just a dream, but any way:
One CEO (droid) said to the other:
" How can we make millions selling a new product, when there is nothing new under the sun ? ",...
Other CEO, (bot) "Thinking.... please wait,..... ",
The other CEO (droid),... "Ok,..."
Mr.bot : ":idea: "
smoke starts coming out of Mr. bot, and lights blinking,
" :idea: :idea: :idea: "YES, I got it now, my man, we have a plan :!: :!: :!:

Mr.droid : " Great, tell me about the plan my man",...
Mr.Bot : "We start manufacturing protective clothing, that protects the humans from toxic rays, cosmic rays, and all kinds of radiation, including the deadly rays produced by the wifi and blue tooth, every office is using" ........
Mr.droid: "Hmm, I don't get it, nobody will buy it,..."
Mr.bot: "Think about it my man,... we start generating web pages , all about the scientific studies, proving wifi and blue tooth are dangerous to human health, you know we can make it sound good, and nobody knows for sure, but
they (the humans) are so easily manipulated, suggest some symptoms, and next thing you know they all have the symptoms, it will grow, like a snowball rolling down a hill ."
Mr.droid: " Ahh, ah, I am beginning to see the picture,.... Yes :!: YES :idea: :idea: yes, it is a plan,.. now my man, let's put the plan in action,...in Japan, my man, they will begin the production, and when the humans begin to panic, we will be ready, they will all start searching, " Where can I get clothing that protects me from wifi and micro wave radiation ?" or
Where can I get a suit and head cover to protect me from wifi radiation

Mr.Droid: "We can even use recycled bear cans, and other garbage to make the clothing, this is wonderful idea :idea: :idea: :idea: , hey it might even boost the price of aluminium, ....my man , you are a genius, ..... "

None1975 wrote:Ts, you should buy a foil hat
Image

Then the "consumer droids" all say together :
"So now that we are all aware of the dangers of Microwave ovens, wifi and bluetooth, and these are essential items in our luxurious life styles, and at work to, but now that we know these things, the wonders of aluminium, it will save us all, we must buy our protective clothing and tin foil hats".

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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby stevepusser » 2018-07-30 06:48

US life expectancies plummet from 76.2 to 76.0 yrs, and infant mortality is higher than other developed nations.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the fact that the US has the worst and yet the most expensive health care system, does it? Or that more Americans are morbidly obese than in those countries? Why, if I could get outta my fat scooter, I'd kick ya right in the chakras! USA! USA! It ain't my fault, it's those dam microwaves!
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby golinux » 2018-07-30 13:30

stevepusser wrote:US life expectancies plummet from 76.2 to 76.0 yrs, and infant mortality is higher than other developed nations.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the fact that the US has the worst and yet the most expensive health care system, does it? Or that more Americans are morbidly obese than in those countries? Why, if I could get outta my fat scooter, I'd kick ya right in the chakras! USA! USA! It ain't my fault, it's those damn microwaves!

Love your sarcasm. Add to that GMOs, agricultural and other chemicals and processed food. A way to make money off of us from the cradle to the grave. Pay to get sick by buying all those brightly colored cans and boxes that line grocery shelves and pay to try to reverse the damage with more chemicals. Cash cow.
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-07-30 14:57

We don't get too many of these kinds of threads.
Of course, there was a solution to the OP's problem, but it's partial at best. Simply looking at the laptop screen will cause unnatural levels of radiation. Hanging around smartphones will get you irradiated. It's logical, since we humans weren't made to be looking at bright, radiating man-made screens. The only natural radiation comes from the Sun, and it too will harm us if we are exposed to it's rays for too long.

I am like the OP, I get pressure headaches after long hours spent near the laptop's screen. My recommendation would be to cut it to the bare minimum. Use your computer when you must, don't allow it to use you.
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby stevepusser » 2018-07-30 16:33

The only natural radiation comes from the Sun, and it too will harm us if we are exposed to it's rays for too long.


Cosmic rays: "Hey, what about us!" By the way, the high-altitude woo centers like Sedona are more exposed to this radiation.

Radon gas: "Excuse me, I come from the radioactive decay of elements in the Earth, sir. Get woke!"

Naturally radioactive potassium-40 in your bones and precious organic bananas: "Radiationist!"

Lightning bolts: "Did you know we generate gamma rays? Look it up. Though we haven't managed to make anyone we strike Hulk Out yet, we'll keep trying!"

I thought GMOs would come up eventually. To see how wrong one case against it is, research (real science, not a woo echo chamber like Mercola's or Goop) golden rice and how the vitamin deficiency that it would cure maims and kills many thousands of children in developing countries. Good on ya for doing that as you sit there fat and sassy while children go blind. Good for you. Don't wanna contaminate our precious bodily fluids...Are the flat earth and the moon landings next up?

I don't have to go back far to find popular delusions that ended up destroying the lives of innocent people because the unsupported ravings of disturbed people were taken as gospel. There are still innocent people in prison because they were caught up and convicted in the Satanic Panic of the 80's and 90's. Are you going to defend those nutjobs? Go ahead and try.

Not to mention the thoroughly discredited facilitated communication, and how the "helpers" somehow constantly generate bogus accusations of child sexual abuse. That seems to be a theme with them.
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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby golinux » 2018-07-30 16:47

I think we collectively hit a nerve. stevepusser is coming a bit unhinged . . .

The hype of golden rice has been thoroughly debunked by reputable scientists for the about 20 years as being ineffective. I won't do the research for you but will say that I have been personally hanging with credible scientists who have been doing GMO research for decades.

Now, let's take this discussion to the next level of absurdity (with which I don't disagree) . . . This site recently popped up on my radar. I found this page quite describes the doodoo in which we find ourselves.

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Re: microwave emissions reduction - bluetooth WIFI

Postby stevepusser » 2018-07-30 17:17

And systemd causes cancer, too. Can we start that rumor?

I suggest you get out of the echo chamber and stop listening to the Food Babe and her ilk, too...but that's not gonna happen, is it?

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