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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby pawRoot » 2018-09-27 00:27

Tested Opera and Firefox but in the end went back to Chrome anyway, it just feels super fast, pages load faster than on other browsers, also syncing option works the best in Chrome. Firefox felt like a piece of crap to me, worst browser i have used.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby rivenathos » 2018-09-27 06:05

None1975 wrote:
rivenathos wrote:Now, how do I disable Firefox Accessibility Service?

I do not know what you were on. You yourself have been crushing something. To me, by default this function has been disabled.


@None1975, I am sorry you have may misunderstood the thought bubble in my post. For a possibly non-native American English speaker, you may have been confused by my choice of wording. Apologies are extended. American English is sometimes more complicated than British English, which I have heard is usually taught in European countries. Hey, it happens. Congrats on your General English usage since I have no comprehension of the Lithuanian language at all.

Now, that being said, I am confused by your references to being "on" and "crushing something." Is that some type of drug reference? Rest assured that pretty much the only intoxicant in which I imbibe is a beer every now and then. Cheers!

At this point, I stand by my post on September 25th, 2018 concerning the sluggishness of Firefox. I trust you have researched this issue on your end and found my solution workable for you. I wish you the best of luck.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby rivenathos » 2018-09-27 06:10

@ sunrat - Yeah, I was miffed at this option being automatically enabled in Firefox. Ever since the update to Quantum, I was scratching my head trying to figure this sluggishness out. This really should be addressed in some way in the forum to assist others to stick with Firefox instead of switching to other browsers not in the repos. Just my opinion I wished to share.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby None1975 » 2018-09-27 13:17

rivenathos wrote:Now, that being said, I am confused by your references to being "on" and "crushing something." Is that some type of drug reference? Rest assured that pretty much the only intoxicant in which I imbibe is a beer every now and then. Cheers!At this point, I stand by my post on September 25th, 2018 concerning the sluggishness of Firefox. I trust you have researched this issue on your end and found my solution workable for you. I wish you the best of luck.

Hello and sorry for my bad English. In my previous post, I had in mind that by default this function (Firefox Accessibility Service) has been disabled. I did not change any Firefox settings. I just tested these settings on my friend's computer, which I installed Debian today. Here is screenshot:
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Personally, I did not experience the problem that was discussed in this topic, but I thank you for the solution to this problem. It may be that this will help someone.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby None1975 » 2018-09-27 13:50

pawRoot wrote:Tested Opera and Firefox but in the end went back to Chrome anyway, it just feels super fast, pages load faster than on other browsers, also syncing option works the best in Chrome. Firefox felt like a piece of crap to me, worst browser i have used.

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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby pawRoot » 2018-09-27 20:13

Google knows everything about me anyway. :mrgreen:
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby sunrat » 2018-09-27 21:11

None1975 wrote:In my previous post, I had in mind that by default this function (Firefox Accessibility Service) has been disabled. I did not change any Firefox settings. I just tested these settings on my friend's computer, which I installed Debian today. Here is screenshot:...

Your screenshot shows the service is enabled. You need to check the box to disable it.
The service does not seem to have any useful purpose for me. It turns out the page I was most concerned about is still slow after disabling it anyway so it must be some other cause.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby debiman » 2018-09-28 05:34

pages load faster than on other browsers

this is some sort of myth that many browser distributors like to feed.
objectively, this cannot be the case, because the loading of resources from the internet is not dependent on the software doing the loading (*).

but there can be various mechanisms in place to make it *appear* so:
  • simplest: resource caching. but since all browsers do that anyhow, we can discard that
  • advanced caching? pre-rendered javascript etc.?
  • link prefetching: all links (or the ones that you are most likely to click? - big brother is watching (**)) are already loaded in the background
  • completely pre-rendered pages are fetched from somewhere (opera turbo is doing exactly that)
  • the browser appears to be not running, but is actually still doing things (chrom*)
what *can* be objectively faster is page rendering, and i will concede that chrom/e/ium might be top notch there.
but i bet it cannot beat the rendering times of my browser, with all javascript disabled :D

(*) um, yes, there has been an outcry recently where some new law was going to be passed in the USA that would make exactly that possible. i wonder what happened to that?
(**) i think it's easy to see that a google-owned browser would be particularly good in similar techniques.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby None1975 » 2018-09-28 14:46

sunrat wrote:Your screenshot shows the service is enabled. You need to check the box to disable it.

I made a mistake. I feel totally foolish. Thank you.
sunrat wrote:The service does not seem to have any useful purpose for me. It turns out the page I was most concerned about is still slow after disabling it anyway so it must be some other cause.

Yes You're right. I turned it off and did not feel any difference.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby ruffwoof » 2018-09-28 15:08

Blocking google as per adding the /etc/hosts entries in the Answers section of this posting https://superuser.com/questions/1135339/cant-block-connections-to-google-via-hosts-file massively improved speed for me. Yahoo news for instance used to drag whereas post /etc/hosts adjustment its reasonably quick.

I keep 2 hosts files, one with adblock type listings as per https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts, another with the above (and facebook) additions to that and copy whichever into /etc/hosts as/when desired (you can do that on the fly).

I also wrap my chrome launch around clearing out ~/.cache/chromium and ~/.config/chromium ... so the browser starts up clean. Loading a .html file that I manually maintain as my bookmarks file. I'm running OpenBSD and -current version of that has pledge and unveil that further limit what chrome can see in memory and on disk. Firefox in OBSD in contrast doesn't include unveil (filesystem access monitor/control).
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby pawRoot » 2018-09-28 23:38

@debiman no idea how it works in the backend, but i can see big difference after switching back to Chrome.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby Job » 2018-10-02 13:36

Firefox for me, both the one in Debian repos and Nightly. All versions of Chrome freezes my box while playing videos like youtube, idem with Epiphany which is actually a browser I would like to adopt.
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Re: I love Firefox Quantum

Postby frank38 » 2018-10-29 16:00

Yes, I agree. I've been using the same (downloaded) version of Firefox Quantum and I'm very happy with it. I desired such a progress for long.
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