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Since we all try to solve bugs on their implebominatations, when do I get my check from IBM now? who gets the cash? IBM should spread it around a little, I mean they get it from big G for nothing...?

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/s ... ance-sheet

*hint, search for "debt"

...for people who hate redhat, looks like this might be the quickest way to kill it, you should be glad. Like getting rid of a bad woman, the quickest way (not cheapest) is marry her so you can get a divorce.

Maybe better: Marrying off an ugly sister to a rich old man so you don;t have to eat her cooking anymore?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_team

# a Gong

pylkko wrote:I highly doubt that IBM acquiring Red Hat will have any effect at all on Gnome development. Why do you think that would be? After all, IBM says that Red Hat will continue functioning mostly as is. In addition it is not exactly like as if Red Hat fuly controls Gnome development, right?

I don't believe any one distro provider fully controls Gnome but this new acquisition will result in IBM's ample cash supplies supporting all RedHat's interests of which Gnome's desktop environment development is one. Imagine i'll continue enjoy using Gnome for some time yet.

pylkko wrote:Don't you think that open source is actually a thing that investors and shareholders are inteterested in...

I guess that for the majority of shareolders opensource doen't mean anything... Anyway as you said and as the pr communication said, IBM is interested in the cloud and Red Hat will be an entity inside a branch of IBM, which means that some project sponsored by Red Hat will be eventually dismissed it is unavoidable...

https://purpleidea.com/blog/2018/10/30/ ... red-giant/

Danielsan wrote:https://purpleidea.com/blog/2018/10/30/ ... red-giant/

Excellent piece, thanks for that.

I'm not so sure IBM is hostile to the GPL though — didn't they spend millions defending it in the SCO lawsuits?

The argument is put forward there that Red Hat projects are mostly more permissive than GPL. While this is true, this appears to be a very general trend all around, unfortunately. I think that scape goating Red Hat for that specific thing takes attention away from this reality. I guess people see it as a way to get a broad audience for their code. And perhaps desperately hope that industry will recognize them for it...

sunrat wrote:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:The tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist nutcases will be all over this news like a rash and anybody they can manage to convince with their drivel will want to use sysvinit because that is the One True Init System, or something.

Indeed, I'm getting a few chuckles out of this thread already.

The world has more important issues than this - loss of bees and extinction of species, poisoning of food and water, climate change, antibiotic resistance. Tons of things that will affect our lives way more than who owns companies which work with open source software.
It is OPEN source, to make a point. Remember OpenOffice?

Thanks for posting that.

Jeopardy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!

"Art, I'll take History for 200"

"And your question is"
What is antitrust?

! pop - $ ~ .

It could have been worse. It could have been Microsoft, instead of IBM.

Starborn wrote:It could have been worse. It could have been Microsoft, instead of IBM.

Wait for Canonical to be acquired by Microsoft in the next 12 months. It's not just Redhat by IBM for $34 Billion, OpenSUSE was sold by Micro Focus to EQT a Swedish-based private equity for $2.5 Billion in June.

So if Microsoft buys Canonical, what could that mean for the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian?

thekramer wrote:So if Microsoft buys Canonical, what could that mean for the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian?

Imagine "Microsoft Linux".

When it comes to the "Redmond Posse", I always wonder if (and hope that) the GPL's are strong enough.

Maybe you missed it but microsoft started to sell its own desktop linux in the microsoft store last week

pylkko wrote:microsoft started to sell its own desktop linux in the microsoft store last week

Fake news!

There is a GNU/Linux variant for sale in the store but it's not sold by MS and it is MIT-licensed and so can be legally copied & re-distributed by anybody.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=139026

Ok. I thought it was distributed by ms.

my 2c here is that companies like ibm, oracle etc see that open source is something that is a threat to their software business.

they also realise that the very nature of open source means that it is not the os that they must concentrate on. windows core os will probably be free sooner than we recognise.

it probably becomes about what can you bolt on to the core os. i don't know what this is. and i suspect they also haven't quite figured it out yet. but for me this is where the money is. oh and support as always.

milomak wrote:my 2c here is that companies like ibm, oracle etc see that open source is something that is a threat to their software business.

well my 2ct is that large companies have realised that it's possible to make shitloads of money with open source.
google showed them how it works, and now everyone wants a slice of that.
the GPL is there like a large obstacle that needs to be manouvred around.

debiman wrote:large companies have realised that it's possible to make shitloads of money with open source

Perhaps I am naive but I like to think that the big software companies have finally realised that open source development works better than the closed model.

If everybody can see the code then everybody can contribute to making it better.

EDIT: and IBM are pursuing open source hardware development now:

https://openpowerfoundation.org/

POWER9 FTW!