Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby ruffwoof » 2019-07-05 20:08

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# free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3406          64        3207          81         134        3021
Swap:             0           0           0
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FatDog (based on Linux from Scratch) initial boot to using fp IDE, mc, style desktop (text user interface - tui), wireless net connected. From there I can ssh into hashbang for irc, email, bbs' ..etc. Initial boot free -m as above.

Secondary boot (exiting tui) loads fd64 main sfs, full blown X desktop environment with Chrome, Libre etc.

Boots from usb, with multi-save session saving back to usb. i.e. usb can be unplugged after booting and it all runs in ram. Only need to reattach usb if I want to run a 'save' i.e. configuration change. All data stored elsewhere, so generally I boot the exact same 'clean' system every time, use it, shut down without saving (no risk of a crack being made persistent across reboots). Chome is included in that, clean/new after each reboot, so I store bookmarks in a text file - tilda caters for clickable links, so when viewing that bookmarks files I can click/add/remove those links easily.

tui remains available in the gui session, using tilda drop down terminal (F1 to show/hide, Quake style). I have a ncurses menu - similar in appearance/operation to mc style, where clicking menu options (program launch) that opens a new tilda tab with that program loaded into that tab (or opens the gui window for gui programs, Fatdog uses Openbox). So I can for instance still run w3m on hashbang if I so desire. On hashbang sessions run under tmux.

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Presently, writing this (in Chrome) ... with moderate/heavily active desktop
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# free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3406         410        2071         588         924        2026
Swap:         16383           0       16383
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Again that's all running in ram, no usb attached, no HDD mounted.

F1 shows tui ...
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F1 again hides tui to reveal the gui desktop

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I live in UK, but like to ssh into US, so most of my data is via that ssh tunnel. I even set hashbang as my socks proxy so local Chrome/dns lookups also flow through the ssh tunnel. So web sites (or in the following image BBS's) see my IP as being a US based IP
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For sensitive connections, such as online paying credit card bill for instance, I use my local ISP's routing/dns after having re-booted a 'clean' session.
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-07-06 09:02

From the sublime to the ridiculous...

Debian buster running GNOME on X:
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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          7.6Gi       641Mi       5.9Gi       129Mi       1.0Gi       6.6Gi
Swap:         1.8Gi          0B       1.8Gi

600.0 KiB +  85.5 KiB = 685.5 KiB       loksh
676.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 790.5 KiB       gvfsd-metadata
684.0 KiB + 107.5 KiB = 791.5 KiB       gsd-screensaver-proxy
760.0 KiB + 107.5 KiB = 867.5 KiB       gdm-x-session
748.0 KiB + 125.5 KiB = 873.5 KiB       gsd-a11y-settings
792.0 KiB + 110.5 KiB = 902.5 KiB       gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
780.0 KiB + 124.5 KiB = 904.5 KiB       gsd-mouse
832.0 KiB + 108.5 KiB = 940.5 KiB       gsd-rfkill
924.0 KiB + 165.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB       at-spi2-registryd
  1.1 MiB +  72.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       dconf-service
  1.0 MiB + 208.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       gsd-housekeeping
864.0 KiB + 354.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       systemd-networkd-wait-online
  1.0 MiB + 177.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
  1.1 MiB + 174.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
  1.0 MiB + 233.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       sudo
  1.1 MiB + 178.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       gvfsd
996.0 KiB + 425.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       systemd-timesyncd
964.0 KiB + 516.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       alsactl
  1.2 MiB + 314.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB       gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
  1.3 MiB + 224.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB       gsd-disk-utility-notify
  1.3 MiB + 465.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       systemd-logind
  1.5 MiB + 267.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       gdm3
  1.5 MiB + 319.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       realmd
  1.3 MiB + 551.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       gsd-sharing
  1.7 MiB + 410.5 KiB =   2.1 MiB       gsd-print-notifications
  2.1 MiB + 118.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB       accounts-daemon
  1.6 MiB + 599.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB       systemd-resolved
  2.1 MiB + 149.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB       systemd-udevd
  2.5 MiB + 240.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB       systemd-networkd
  2.4 MiB + 411.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB       geoclue
  2.3 MiB + 525.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB       gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  2.8 MiB + 146.5 KiB =   2.9 MiB       at-spi-bus-launcher
  2.9 MiB + 190.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB       polkitd
  2.9 MiB + 235.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB       gsd-smartcard
  3.1 MiB + 102.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB       gvfsd-fuse
  2.8 MiB + 538.5 KiB =   3.4 MiB       gnome-session-binary
  3.3 MiB + 321.5 KiB =   3.6 MiB       gsd-sound
  3.6 MiB + 393.5 KiB =   3.9 MiB       upowerd
  3.7 MiB + 411.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB       systemd-journald
  3.8 MiB + 265.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB       goa-identity-service
  3.4 MiB + 717.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB       dbus-daemon (3)
  4.0 MiB + 621.5 KiB =   4.6 MiB       gsd-printer
  4.3 MiB + 416.5 KiB =   4.7 MiB       gdm-session-worker
  4.3 MiB + 389.5 KiB =   4.7 MiB       gnome-keyring-daemon
  4.4 MiB + 505.5 KiB =   4.9 MiB       udisksd
  2.5 MiB +   2.9 MiB =   5.4 MiB       wpa_supplicant (2)
  4.9 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   6.0 MiB       gsd-clipboard
  5.1 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   6.1 MiB       gsd-keyboard
  5.6 MiB + 547.5 KiB =   6.2 MiB       colord
  5.4 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.5 MiB       gsd-wacom
  5.5 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.6 MiB       gsd-power
  5.5 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.6 MiB       gsd-xsettings
  6.6 MiB + 619.5 KiB =   7.2 MiB       x-terminal-emul
  5.9 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   7.4 MiB       gsd-media-keys
  6.2 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   7.6 MiB       gsd-color
  4.0 MiB +   3.6 MiB =   7.6 MiB       systemd (3)
  5.3 MiB +   3.5 MiB =   8.7 MiB       evolution-addressbook-factory
  7.8 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   8.9 MiB       gsd-datetime
  8.2 MiB + 808.5 KiB =   9.0 MiB       tracker-store
  7.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   9.0 MiB       tracker-miner-apps
  8.5 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   9.8 MiB       tracker-miner-fs
  7.8 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   9.9 MiB       gnome-shell-calendar-server
  8.5 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  11.4 MiB       unattended-upgr
 10.4 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  11.9 MiB       packagekitd
 11.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =  12.8 MiB       pulseaudio
 11.0 MiB +   2.5 MiB =  13.6 MiB       evolution-source-registry
 14.0 MiB +   3.0 MiB =  17.0 MiB       chrome-gnome-sh
 16.7 MiB +   4.5 MiB =  21.2 MiB       evolution-calendar-factory
 14.0 MiB +  10.5 MiB =  24.5 MiB       evolution-alarm-notify
 28.6 MiB +   7.0 MiB =  35.6 MiB       goa-daemon
 34.2 MiB +   4.1 MiB =  38.3 MiB       Xorg
 87.1 MiB +   4.7 MiB =  91.8 MiB       gnome-software
220.0 MiB +  10.7 MiB = 230.7 MiB       gnome-shell
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                        739.1 MiB
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And under Wayland:
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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          7.6Gi       677Mi       5.9Gi       131Mi       1.0Gi       6.6Gi
Swap:         1.8Gi          0B       1.8Gi

 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program

208.0 KiB +  42.5 KiB = 250.5 KiB   atd
312.0 KiB +  50.5 KiB = 362.5 KiB   cron
356.0 KiB +  50.5 KiB = 406.5 KiB   rtkit-daemon
648.0 KiB +  94.5 KiB = 742.5 KiB   gdm-wayland-session
692.0 KiB + 104.5 KiB = 796.5 KiB   gsd-screensaver-proxy
680.0 KiB + 118.5 KiB = 798.5 KiB   gvfsd-metadata
744.0 KiB + 130.5 KiB = 874.5 KiB   gsd-a11y-settings
768.0 KiB + 137.5 KiB = 905.5 KiB   gsd-mouse
500.0 KiB + 441.0 KiB = 941.0 KiB   loksh (2)
832.0 KiB + 110.5 KiB = 942.5 KiB   gsd-rfkill
816.0 KiB + 162.5 KiB = 978.5 KiB   at-spi-bus-launcher
940.0 KiB + 164.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB   at-spi2-registryd
  1.1 MiB +  71.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB   dconf-service
992.0 KiB + 213.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB   gsd-housekeeping
  1.0 MiB + 174.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB   gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
  1.1 MiB + 182.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB   gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
  1.0 MiB + 234.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB   sudo
  1.1 MiB + 175.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB   gvfsd
996.0 KiB + 472.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB   systemd-timesyncd
980.0 KiB + 513.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB   alsactl
  1.3 MiB + 217.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB   gsd-disk-utility-notify
  1.2 MiB + 304.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB   gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
  1.3 MiB + 318.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB   gsd-sound
  1.3 MiB + 499.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB   gsd-sharing
  1.3 MiB + 508.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB   systemd-logind
  1.6 MiB + 263.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB   gdm3
  1.7 MiB + 405.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB   gsd-print-notifications
  2.1 MiB + 117.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB   accounts-daemon
  1.6 MiB + 641.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB   systemd-resolved
  2.1 MiB + 162.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB   systemd-udevd
  2.0 MiB + 598.5 KiB =   2.6 MiB   gsd-printer
  2.3 MiB + 390.5 KiB =   2.7 MiB   gnome-keyring-daemon
  2.3 MiB + 391.5 KiB =   2.7 MiB   geoclue
  2.3 MiB + 513.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB   gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  2.5 MiB + 268.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB   systemd-networkd
  2.8 MiB + 106.5 KiB =   2.9 MiB   gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
  3.0 MiB + 182.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB   polkitd
  2.8 MiB + 550.5 KiB =   3.3 MiB   gnome-session-binary
  3.5 MiB + 310.5 KiB =   3.8 MiB   realmd
  3.6 MiB + 385.5 KiB =   3.9 MiB   upowerd
  3.9 MiB + 263.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB   goa-identity-service
  3.6 MiB + 692.5 KiB =   4.3 MiB   dbus-daemon (3)
  4.2 MiB + 455.5 KiB =   4.6 MiB   systemd-journald
  4.4 MiB + 420.5 KiB =   4.8 MiB   gdm-session-worker
  4.5 MiB + 522.5 KiB =   5.0 MiB   udisksd
  4.9 MiB + 234.5 KiB =   5.1 MiB   gsd-smartcard
  5.1 MiB +  99.5 KiB =   5.2 MiB   gvfsd-fuse
  3.8 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   6.1 MiB   wpa_supplicant (2)
  5.6 MiB + 536.5 KiB =   6.1 MiB   colord
  5.4 MiB + 952.5 KiB =   6.4 MiB   gnome-control-center-search-provider
  5.7 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   7.8 MiB   gnome-shell-calendar-server
  4.3 MiB +   3.7 MiB =   8.0 MiB   systemd (3)
  7.8 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   8.8 MiB   gsd-datetime
  5.4 MiB +   3.5 MiB =   8.9 MiB   evolution-addressbook-factory
  7.7 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   9.2 MiB   gsd-clipboard
  7.9 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   9.4 MiB   gsd-keyboard
  8.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   9.8 MiB   tracker-miner-fs
  8.2 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   9.8 MiB   gsd-power
  8.5 MiB +   1.9 MiB =  10.4 MiB   gsd-media-keys
  8.8 MiB +   1.8 MiB =  10.6 MiB   gsd-color
 10.2 MiB + 799.5 KiB =  10.9 MiB   tracker-store
  9.9 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  11.0 MiB   tracker-miner-apps
  9.2 MiB +   2.4 MiB =  11.6 MiB   evolution-source-registry
 10.2 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  11.8 MiB   gsd-xsettings
 10.4 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  11.9 MiB   gsd-wacom
 11.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =  12.7 MiB   pulseaudio
 12.0 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  13.1 MiB   unattended-upgr
 11.5 MiB +   3.2 MiB =  14.7 MiB   gnome-terminal-server
 14.7 MiB +   4.5 MiB =  19.2 MiB   evolution-calendar-factory
 14.4 MiB +  10.0 MiB =  24.4 MiB   evolution-alarm-notify
 25.4 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  26.8 MiB   packagekitd
 22.7 MiB +   6.8 MiB =  29.4 MiB   goa-daemon
 41.1 MiB +   2.9 MiB =  43.9 MiB   Xwayland
 86.7 MiB +   4.3 MiB =  91.0 MiB   gnome-software
227.6 MiB +   9.8 MiB = 237.5 MiB   gnome-shell
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                        783.0 MiB
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby oswaldkelso » 2019-07-06 12:12

System: Host: dragora Kernel: 4.18.9-gnu i686 bits: 32 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 Distro: Dragora 3.0 D3

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program

 40.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  40.5 KiB   perpboot
 68.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  68.5 KiB   crond
 72.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  72.5 KiB   socklog
 88.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  88.5 KiB   perpd
124.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB   init
 64.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 178.5 KiB   rc.main
 68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB   startx
188.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB = 188.5 KiB   acpid
 72.0 KiB + 124.0 KiB = 196.0 KiB   agetty (2)
196.0 KiB +  49.5 KiB = 245.5 KiB   tinylog (9)
144.0 KiB + 234.5 KiB = 378.5 KiB   xinit
268.0 KiB + 220.5 KiB = 488.5 KiB   dbus-daemon
416.0 KiB + 106.5 KiB = 522.5 KiB   dhcpcd
548.0 KiB + 869.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB   bash (2)
  1.4 MiB + 177.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB   wpa_supplicant
  1.5 MiB + 716.0 KiB =   2.2 MiB   udevd (2)
  2.8 MiB + 937.5 KiB =   3.7 MiB   xterm
  6.2 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   7.5 MiB   icewm
  7.8 MiB + 778.5 KiB =   8.5 MiB   Xorg
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                         27.6 MiB
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There is always a slight variation when running ps_mem or free -m (maybe someone can explain?) I've seen it as low as 23MB for the same setup but 64bit and fully loaded booting to the desktop (tint2 and fittstool) it's around 35MB... Of course then you fire up a browser :-) That said. I only currently have netsurf or dillo as my gui browser which will take you to the dizzy heights of 48MB but you know what I mean.

Of one thing I'm sure. It should not be the interface that hogs memory if you set it up methodically. I use the same very tweaked interface on my atoms as my i5's because it's very easy, very fast, very light and very configurable because it follows the Unix philosophy.

Bang for your buck is what I like because I run a lot of old low powered machines. The current state of the desktop on Gnu/Linux doesn't offer many new features bar a bit of bling. In fact many features that did exist are being dumbed down, and bling is replacing speed. DE's like TDE where you can turn off the bling in return for speed will always get a thumbs up from me.
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby Nili » 2019-07-06 13:01

I learned way back on #! & LinuxBBQ how to manage my system and use it as KISS & Unix philosophy.
Since then, i don't install junks.

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program

 72.0 KiB + 126.5 KiB = 198.5 KiB   hddtemp
200.0 KiB + 111.5 KiB = 311.5 KiB   startx
180.0 KiB + 175.0 KiB = 355.0 KiB   init
184.0 KiB + 308.5 KiB = 492.5 KiB   xinit
388.0 KiB + 481.5 KiB = 869.5 KiB   su
528.0 KiB + 410.5 KiB = 938.5 KiB   login
  1.3 MiB + 251.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB   udevd
  1.4 MiB + 300.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB   bash
  2.2 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   4.1 MiB   rxvt-unicode
  8.2 MiB + 826.0 KiB =   9.0 MiB   Xorg
 12.9 MiB +   2.3 MiB =  15.2 MiB   openbox
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                         34.6 MiB
=================================
#! nili ~ $ free -h
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          2.0G       384M       1.6G        20M        38M       299M
-/+ buffers/cache:        46M       1.9G
Swap:         4.0G       464K       4.0G
#! nili ~ $ uptime
 15:34:01 up 1 day,  5:59,  1 user,  load average: 0.19, 0.10, 0.08
#! nili ~ $

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program

176.0 KiB +  75.5 KiB = 251.5 KiB   startx
192.0 KiB + 106.0 KiB = 298.0 KiB   init
172.0 KiB + 145.5 KiB = 317.5 KiB   xinit
372.0 KiB +  71.5 KiB = 443.5 KiB   hddtemp
380.0 KiB + 357.5 KiB = 737.5 KiB   su
516.0 KiB + 315.5 KiB = 831.5 KiB   login
768.0 KiB + 523.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB   compton
  1.3 MiB + 152.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB   udevd
  1.3 MiB + 221.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB   bash
  1.2 MiB + 558.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB   conky
  1.9 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   4.0 MiB   tint2
  6.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   7.8 MiB   x-terminal-emulator
  5.1 MiB +   3.4 MiB =   8.5 MiB   spacefm
  6.1 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   8.9 MiB   openbox
  5.5 MiB +   6.0 MiB =  11.5 MiB   obconf
  7.8 MiB +   4.9 MiB =  12.7 MiB   Xorg
 12.1 MiB +   3.9 MiB =  15.9 MiB   obmenu
 14.8 MiB +   4.5 MiB =  19.3 MiB   deadbeef-gtkui
116.5 MiB +   3.2 MiB = 119.7 MiB   x-www-browser
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                        217.2 MiB
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby Deb-fan » 2019-07-06 16:02

You fellows above dang sure aren't messing around. Call that taking minimal to the maximum. Agree will/would always setup a gnu/nix Os the same on high/low spec. Had never even heard of Tde (Trinity desktop environment) interesting. When a better opportunity presents plan on exploring a bunch of the available DE's and windows managers out there. If only for the experience and sake of it.

Thanks for sharing stats fellow nixers. :)
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby sickpig » 2019-07-07 02:46

openbox with few bulky apps slotted to autostart like syncthing and autokey.

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Device: laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 5490
UEFI: Dell v: 1.4.2
disk - model: INTEL_SSDSCKKF25 (256 Gb ssd)


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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.7G        219M        7.2G         37M        285M        7.2G
Swap:            0B          0B          0B


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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program

 80.0 KiB +  35.0 KiB = 115.0 KiB   xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper
208.0 KiB +  38.5 KiB = 246.5 KiB   startx
240.0 KiB + 111.0 KiB = 351.0 KiB   xinit
336.0 KiB + 126.0 KiB = 462.0 KiB   cron
584.0 KiB +  25.0 KiB = 609.0 KiB   ssh-agent
484.0 KiB + 126.5 KiB = 610.5 KiB   irqbalance
668.0 KiB + 261.0 KiB = 929.0 KiB   xfconfd
636.0 KiB + 411.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB   systemd-timesyncd
736.0 KiB + 316.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB   gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
772.0 KiB + 461.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB   systemd-logind
  1.0 MiB + 305.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB   gvfsd-fuse
  1.5 MiB + 101.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB   rsyslogd
  1.2 MiB + 437.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB   gvfsd
  1.1 MiB + 726.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB   (sd-pam)
936.0 KiB + 938.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB   su
  1.3 MiB + 632.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB   dbus-daemon (2)
  1.7 MiB + 393.0 KiB =   2.1 MiB   systemd-journald
  2.1 MiB + 121.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB   systemd-udevd
  1.4 MiB + 944.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB   lxpolkit
  2.1 MiB + 338.0 KiB =   2.4 MiB   dhclient
  1.9 MiB + 553.0 KiB =   2.4 MiB   udisksd
880.0 KiB +   1.7 MiB =   2.6 MiB   login (2)
  2.4 MiB + 429.0 KiB =   2.9 MiB   polkitd
  1.9 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   2.9 MiB   gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  2.4 MiB + 579.0 KiB =   3.0 MiB   conky
  1.7 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   3.1 MiB   panel-19-systra
  1.9 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   3.4 MiB   panel-5-xfce4-o
  2.4 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   3.6 MiB   bash (2)
  1.7 MiB +   2.5 MiB =   4.2 MiB   systemd (2)
  4.1 MiB + 465.0 KiB =   4.6 MiB   wpa_supplicant
  3.4 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   5.4 MiB   orage
  3.5 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   5.5 MiB   clipit
  3.3 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   5.7 MiB   panel-38-whiske
  5.6 MiB + 360.0 KiB =   6.0 MiB   xterm
  4.7 MiB +   1.8 MiB =   6.5 MiB   openbox
  7.0 MiB + 408.5 KiB =   7.4 MiB   pulseaudio
  5.3 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   8.1 MiB   xfce4-panel
  8.2 MiB + 902.0 KiB =   9.1 MiB   NetworkManager
 17.7 MiB +   4.6 MiB =  22.3 MiB   pcmanfm
 22.6 MiB +   7.7 MiB =  30.3 MiB   syncthing (2)
 27.1 MiB +   4.2 MiB =  31.3 MiB   Xorg
 33.8 MiB +   4.3 MiB =  38.1 MiB   autokey-gtk
---------------------------------
                        233.8 MiB
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby wizard10000 » 2019-07-07 10:21

Just for grins here are specs on my home server. Server runs plex and calibre, has openbox installed but sits at a login prompt :)

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wizard@wizard-server:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          7.7Gi       561Mi       294Mi        88Mi       6.9Gi       6.8Gi
Swap:         4.0Gi          0B       4.0Gi



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wizard@wizard-server:~$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: wizard-server Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Precision M4500 v: 0001
  serial: <root required>
  Mobo: Dell model: N/A serial: <root required> BIOS: Dell v: A15
  date: 12/05/2013
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 68.2 Wh condition: 68.2/86.6 Wh (79%)
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7 Q 740 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB
  Speed: 956 MHz min/max: 933/1734 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 983 2: 1381
  3: 1099 4: 1153 5: 972 6: 1004 7: 1387 8: 1073
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GT215GLM [Quadro FX 1800M] driver: nouveau v: kernel
  Display: tty server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio
  driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 5c:26:0a:05:70:4a
  Device-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi
  IF: wlp3s0 state: down mac: ea:73:9c:47:f4:55
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.59 TiB used: 788.94 GiB (48.4%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500LPLX-75ZNTT0
  size: 232.89 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Seagate model: ST9500420AS
  size: 465.76 GiB
  ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: External USB 3.0
  size: 931.51 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 12.03 GiB used: 5.75 GiB (47.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
  ID-2: /home size: 212.20 GiB used: 19.54 GiB (9.2%) fs: ext4
  dev: /dev/sda3
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: 47.0 C gpu: nouveau
  temp: 53 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2631
Info:
  Processes: 194 Uptime: 22h 55m Memory: 7.73 GiB used: 1.89 GiB (24.5%)
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.34
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby GarryRicketson » 2019-07-07 14:09

Before, I posted Debian on a VM (Qemu), here it is on bare metal, a new (but used) PC:
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garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          garry@debian
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ------------
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: HP Compaq 8200 Elite CMT PC
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 mins
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 966 (dpkg)
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1440x900
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Default
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Xfce [GTK2]
     `$$b.                    Icons: Tango [GTK2]
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 18
              `"""            CPU: Intel i5-2400 (4) @ 3.400GHz
                              GPU: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family
                              Memory: 302MiB / 1816MiB

                                                     

garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          1.8Gi       236Mi       276Mi        52Mi       1.3Gi       1.3Gi
Swap:         1.9Gi          0B       1.9Gi
garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: debian Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4
  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 8200 Elite CMT PC
  v: N/A serial: <root required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1494 serial: <root required>
  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: J01 v02.01 date: 04/06/2011
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-2400 bits: 64 type: MCP
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB
  Speed: 1640 MHz min/max: 1600/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1602 2: 1596
  3: 1597 4: 1597
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
  driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
  resolution: 1440x900~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Desktop v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio
  driver: snd_hda_intel
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 2c:27:d7:1a:ad:de
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 3.31 GiB (0.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM010-2EP102 size: 931.51 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AZLX-22JKKA0
  size: 465.76 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 264.84 GiB used: 2.76 GiB (1.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb7
  ID-2: /boot size: 9.17 GiB used: 114.5 MiB (1.2%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sdb1
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.89 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 152 Uptime: 6m Memory: 1.77 GiB used: 316.1 MiB (17.4%)
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32
garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2019-07-07 14:27

That's a good lappy, Garry.
If you get the chance, add another 4 GB of RAM and it will be a beast.
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby PhilGil » 2019-07-07 19:00

Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison.

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          phil@phil-optiplex-5050
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -----------------------
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: OptiPlex 5050
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 mins
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2715 (dpkg), 8 (flatpak)
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: GNOME 3.30.2
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: GNOME Shell
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Adwaita
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
     `$$b.                    Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: gnome-terminal
          `"Y$b._             CPU: Intel i7-7700 (8) @ 4.200GHz
              `"""            GPU: Intel HD Graphics 630
                              Memory: 1179MiB / 15906MiB


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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi


Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby sunrat » 2019-07-08 00:41

PhilGil wrote:Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison. ...

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi


Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.


When you have 16GB RAM, using ~8% of it at bootup is certainly no reason to consider changing DE. :wink:
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby PhilGil » 2019-07-08 03:09

sunrat wrote:
PhilGil wrote:Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison. ...

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi


Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.


When you have 16GB RAM, using ~8% of it at bootup is certainly no reason to consider changing DE. :wink:


New (to me) machine. Having an overabundance of RAM isn't something I'm used to. I've also been using Linux long enough that I remember when a full XFCE install (without tweaks) came in at <200mb.
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby Nili » 2019-07-19 15:34

With Openbox i used to have 35MB IDLE. While on Fluxbox i am minus 10MB

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#! nili ~ $ ps_mem
Password:
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program

200.0 KiB + 122.5 KiB = 322.5 KiB   startx
196.0 KiB + 177.0 KiB = 373.0 KiB   init
372.0 KiB + 109.5 KiB = 481.5 KiB   hddtemp
172.0 KiB + 332.5 KiB = 504.5 KiB   xinit
380.0 KiB + 529.5 KiB = 909.5 KiB   su
508.0 KiB + 450.5 KiB = 958.5 KiB   login
  1.3 MiB + 234.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB   udevd
  1.4 MiB + 286.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB   bash
  3.1 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   4.4 MiB   fluxbox
  3.3 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   4.7 MiB   rxvt-unicode
  8.0 MiB + 538.0 KiB =   8.5 MiB   Xorg
---------------------------------
                         24.3 MiB
=================================

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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby Hallvor » 2019-07-19 16:33

My main rig with many enabled services:

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hallvor@debian-thinkpad:~$ free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7669         691        6261         124         716        6617
Swap:          7879           0        7879


Running Konsole, Dolphin and Konqueror (on FDN):

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hallvor@debian-thinkpad:~$ free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7669         853        5773         240        1042        6336
Swap:          7879           0        7879
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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

Postby Deb-fan » 2019-07-19 20:53

Nice stats people, thanks for sharing. :)

Dang Nili, you aren't messing around. Are these modern gnu/Linux operating systems or old stable, dated one's? Am more than happy with sub-100mbs/ram in 2019. Openbox does everything I could need. Don't need icons, panel launchers etc. Can launch whichever apps with keyboard shortcuts, run dialogue, terminal or if absolutely want to touch a mouse/pad, openbox's right-click menu. Been considering removing it. Never use it anymore but it uses so little in resources may as well leave it alone.

Remember you/Nili from #! and BBQ, hope you're doing well fellow nixer. :)
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