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[ruffwoof]

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# free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3406          64        3207          81         134        3021
Swap:             0           0           0
#

FatDog (based on Linux from Scratch) initial boot to using fp IDE, mc, style desktop (text user interface - tui), wireless net connected. From there I can ssh into hashbang for irc, email, bbs' ..etc. Initial boot free -m as above.

Secondary boot (exiting tui) loads fd64 main sfs, full blown X desktop environment with Chrome, Libre etc.

Boots from usb, with multi-save session saving back to usb. i.e. usb can be unplugged after booting and it all runs in ram. Only need to reattach usb if I want to run a 'save' i.e. configuration change. All data stored elsewhere, so generally I boot the exact same 'clean' system every time, use it, shut down without saving (no risk of a crack being made persistent across reboots). Chome is included in that, clean/new after each reboot, so I store bookmarks in a text file - tilda caters for clickable links, so when viewing that bookmarks files I can click/add/remove those links easily.

tui remains available in the gui session, using tilda drop down terminal (F1 to show/hide, Quake style). I have a ncurses menu - similar in appearance/operation to mc style, where clicking menu options (program launch) that opens a new tilda tab with that program loaded into that tab (or opens the gui window for gui programs, Fatdog uses Openbox). So I can for instance still run w3m on hashbang if I so desire. On hashbang sessions run under tmux.



Presently, writing this (in Chrome) ... with moderate/heavily active desktop

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# free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3406         410        2071         588         924        2026
Swap:         16383           0       16383
# 

Again that's all running in ram, no usb attached, no HDD mounted.

F1 shows tui ...


F1 again hides tui to reveal the gui desktop



I live in UK, but like to ssh into US, so most of my data is via that ssh tunnel. I even set hashbang as my socks proxy so local Chrome/dns lookups also flow through the ssh tunnel. So web sites (or in the following image BBS's) see my IP as being a US based IP


For sensitive connections, such as online paying credit card bill for instance, I use my local ISP's routing/dns after having re-booted a 'clean' session.

[Head_on_a_Stick]

From the sublime to the ridiculous...

Debian buster running GNOME on X:

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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          7.6Gi       641Mi       5.9Gi       129Mi       1.0Gi       6.6Gi
Swap:         1.8Gi          0B       1.8Gi

600.0 KiB +  85.5 KiB = 685.5 KiB       loksh
676.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 790.5 KiB       gvfsd-metadata
684.0 KiB + 107.5 KiB = 791.5 KiB       gsd-screensaver-proxy
760.0 KiB + 107.5 KiB = 867.5 KiB       gdm-x-session
748.0 KiB + 125.5 KiB = 873.5 KiB       gsd-a11y-settings
792.0 KiB + 110.5 KiB = 902.5 KiB       gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
780.0 KiB + 124.5 KiB = 904.5 KiB       gsd-mouse
832.0 KiB + 108.5 KiB = 940.5 KiB       gsd-rfkill
924.0 KiB + 165.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB       at-spi2-registryd
  1.1 MiB +  72.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       dconf-service
  1.0 MiB + 208.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       gsd-housekeeping
864.0 KiB + 354.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       systemd-networkd-wait-online
  1.0 MiB + 177.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
  1.1 MiB + 174.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
  1.0 MiB + 233.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       sudo
  1.1 MiB + 178.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       gvfsd
996.0 KiB + 425.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       systemd-timesyncd
964.0 KiB + 516.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       alsactl
  1.2 MiB + 314.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB       gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
  1.3 MiB + 224.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB       gsd-disk-utility-notify
  1.3 MiB + 465.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       systemd-logind
  1.5 MiB + 267.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       gdm3
  1.5 MiB + 319.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       realmd
  1.3 MiB + 551.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       gsd-sharing
  1.7 MiB + 410.5 KiB =   2.1 MiB       gsd-print-notifications
  2.1 MiB + 118.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB       accounts-daemon
  1.6 MiB + 599.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB       systemd-resolved
  2.1 MiB + 149.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB       systemd-udevd
  2.5 MiB + 240.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB       systemd-networkd
  2.4 MiB + 411.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB       geoclue
  2.3 MiB + 525.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB       gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  2.8 MiB + 146.5 KiB =   2.9 MiB       at-spi-bus-launcher
  2.9 MiB + 190.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB       polkitd
  2.9 MiB + 235.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB       gsd-smartcard
  3.1 MiB + 102.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB       gvfsd-fuse
  2.8 MiB + 538.5 KiB =   3.4 MiB       gnome-session-binary
  3.3 MiB + 321.5 KiB =   3.6 MiB       gsd-sound
  3.6 MiB + 393.5 KiB =   3.9 MiB       upowerd
  3.7 MiB + 411.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB       systemd-journald
  3.8 MiB + 265.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB       goa-identity-service
  3.4 MiB + 717.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB       dbus-daemon (3)
  4.0 MiB + 621.5 KiB =   4.6 MiB       gsd-printer
  4.3 MiB + 416.5 KiB =   4.7 MiB       gdm-session-worker
  4.3 MiB + 389.5 KiB =   4.7 MiB       gnome-keyring-daemon
  4.4 MiB + 505.5 KiB =   4.9 MiB       udisksd
  2.5 MiB +   2.9 MiB =   5.4 MiB       wpa_supplicant (2)
  4.9 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   6.0 MiB       gsd-clipboard
  5.1 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   6.1 MiB       gsd-keyboard
  5.6 MiB + 547.5 KiB =   6.2 MiB       colord
  5.4 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.5 MiB       gsd-wacom
  5.5 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.6 MiB       gsd-power
  5.5 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.6 MiB       gsd-xsettings
  6.6 MiB + 619.5 KiB =   7.2 MiB       x-terminal-emul
  5.9 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   7.4 MiB       gsd-media-keys
  6.2 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   7.6 MiB       gsd-color
  4.0 MiB +   3.6 MiB =   7.6 MiB       systemd (3)
  5.3 MiB +   3.5 MiB =   8.7 MiB       evolution-addressbook-factory
  7.8 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   8.9 MiB       gsd-datetime
  8.2 MiB + 808.5 KiB =   9.0 MiB       tracker-store
  7.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   9.0 MiB       tracker-miner-apps
  8.5 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   9.8 MiB       tracker-miner-fs
  7.8 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   9.9 MiB       gnome-shell-calendar-server
  8.5 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  11.4 MiB       unattended-upgr
 10.4 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  11.9 MiB       packagekitd
 11.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =  12.8 MiB       pulseaudio
 11.0 MiB +   2.5 MiB =  13.6 MiB       evolution-source-registry
 14.0 MiB +   3.0 MiB =  17.0 MiB       chrome-gnome-sh
 16.7 MiB +   4.5 MiB =  21.2 MiB       evolution-calendar-factory
 14.0 MiB +  10.5 MiB =  24.5 MiB       evolution-alarm-notify
 28.6 MiB +   7.0 MiB =  35.6 MiB       goa-daemon
 34.2 MiB +   4.1 MiB =  38.3 MiB       Xorg
 87.1 MiB +   4.7 MiB =  91.8 MiB       gnome-software
220.0 MiB +  10.7 MiB = 230.7 MiB       gnome-shell
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                        739.1 MiB
================================

And under Wayland:

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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          7.6Gi       677Mi       5.9Gi       131Mi       1.0Gi       6.6Gi
Swap:         1.8Gi          0B       1.8Gi

 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

208.0 KiB +  42.5 KiB = 250.5 KiB	atd
312.0 KiB +  50.5 KiB = 362.5 KiB	cron
356.0 KiB +  50.5 KiB = 406.5 KiB	rtkit-daemon
648.0 KiB +  94.5 KiB = 742.5 KiB	gdm-wayland-session
692.0 KiB + 104.5 KiB = 796.5 KiB	gsd-screensaver-proxy
680.0 KiB + 118.5 KiB = 798.5 KiB	gvfsd-metadata
744.0 KiB + 130.5 KiB = 874.5 KiB	gsd-a11y-settings
768.0 KiB + 137.5 KiB = 905.5 KiB	gsd-mouse
500.0 KiB + 441.0 KiB = 941.0 KiB	loksh (2)
832.0 KiB + 110.5 KiB = 942.5 KiB	gsd-rfkill
816.0 KiB + 162.5 KiB = 978.5 KiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
940.0 KiB + 164.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	at-spi2-registryd
  1.1 MiB +  71.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	dconf-service
992.0 KiB + 213.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gsd-housekeeping
  1.0 MiB + 174.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
  1.1 MiB + 182.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
  1.0 MiB + 234.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	sudo
  1.1 MiB + 175.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	gvfsd
996.0 KiB + 472.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB	systemd-timesyncd
980.0 KiB + 513.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	alsactl
  1.3 MiB + 217.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	gsd-disk-utility-notify
  1.2 MiB + 304.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
  1.3 MiB + 318.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB	gsd-sound
  1.3 MiB + 499.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	gsd-sharing
  1.3 MiB + 508.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	systemd-logind
  1.6 MiB + 263.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	gdm3
  1.7 MiB + 405.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	gsd-print-notifications
  2.1 MiB + 117.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	accounts-daemon
  1.6 MiB + 641.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	systemd-resolved
  2.1 MiB + 162.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	systemd-udevd
  2.0 MiB + 598.5 KiB =   2.6 MiB	gsd-printer
  2.3 MiB + 390.5 KiB =   2.7 MiB	gnome-keyring-daemon
  2.3 MiB + 391.5 KiB =   2.7 MiB	geoclue
  2.3 MiB + 513.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  2.5 MiB + 268.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	systemd-networkd
  2.8 MiB + 106.5 KiB =   2.9 MiB	gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
  3.0 MiB + 182.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB	polkitd
  2.8 MiB + 550.5 KiB =   3.3 MiB	gnome-session-binary
  3.5 MiB + 310.5 KiB =   3.8 MiB	realmd
  3.6 MiB + 385.5 KiB =   3.9 MiB	upowerd
  3.9 MiB + 263.5 KiB =   4.1 MiB	goa-identity-service
  3.6 MiB + 692.5 KiB =   4.3 MiB	dbus-daemon (3)
  4.2 MiB + 455.5 KiB =   4.6 MiB	systemd-journald
  4.4 MiB + 420.5 KiB =   4.8 MiB	gdm-session-worker
  4.5 MiB + 522.5 KiB =   5.0 MiB	udisksd
  4.9 MiB + 234.5 KiB =   5.1 MiB	gsd-smartcard
  5.1 MiB +  99.5 KiB =   5.2 MiB	gvfsd-fuse
  3.8 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   6.1 MiB	wpa_supplicant (2)
  5.6 MiB + 536.5 KiB =   6.1 MiB	colord
  5.4 MiB + 952.5 KiB =   6.4 MiB	gnome-control-center-search-provider
  5.7 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   7.8 MiB	gnome-shell-calendar-server
  4.3 MiB +   3.7 MiB =   8.0 MiB	systemd (3)
  7.8 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   8.8 MiB	gsd-datetime
  5.4 MiB +   3.5 MiB =   8.9 MiB	evolution-addressbook-factory
  7.7 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   9.2 MiB	gsd-clipboard
  7.9 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   9.4 MiB	gsd-keyboard
  8.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   9.8 MiB	tracker-miner-fs
  8.2 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   9.8 MiB	gsd-power
  8.5 MiB +   1.9 MiB =  10.4 MiB	gsd-media-keys
  8.8 MiB +   1.8 MiB =  10.6 MiB	gsd-color
 10.2 MiB + 799.5 KiB =  10.9 MiB	tracker-store
  9.9 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  11.0 MiB	tracker-miner-apps
  9.2 MiB +   2.4 MiB =  11.6 MiB	evolution-source-registry
 10.2 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  11.8 MiB	gsd-xsettings
 10.4 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  11.9 MiB	gsd-wacom
 11.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =  12.7 MiB	pulseaudio
 12.0 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  13.1 MiB	unattended-upgr
 11.5 MiB +   3.2 MiB =  14.7 MiB	gnome-terminal-server
 14.7 MiB +   4.5 MiB =  19.2 MiB	evolution-calendar-factory
 14.4 MiB +  10.0 MiB =  24.4 MiB	evolution-alarm-notify
 25.4 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  26.8 MiB	packagekitd
 22.7 MiB +   6.8 MiB =  29.4 MiB	goa-daemon
 41.1 MiB +   2.9 MiB =  43.9 MiB	Xwayland
 86.7 MiB +   4.3 MiB =  91.0 MiB	gnome-software
227.6 MiB +   9.8 MiB = 237.5 MiB	gnome-shell
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                        783.0 MiB
=================================

*shudders*

[oswaldkelso]

System: Host: dragora Kernel: 4.18.9-gnu i686 bits: 32 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 Distro: Dragora 3.0 D3

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

 40.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  40.5 KiB	perpboot
 68.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  68.5 KiB	crond
 72.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  72.5 KiB	socklog
 88.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB =  88.5 KiB	perpd
124.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB	init
 64.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 178.5 KiB	rc.main
 68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB	startx
188.0 KiB +   0.5 KiB = 188.5 KiB	acpid
 72.0 KiB + 124.0 KiB = 196.0 KiB	agetty (2)
196.0 KiB +  49.5 KiB = 245.5 KiB	tinylog (9)
144.0 KiB + 234.5 KiB = 378.5 KiB	xinit
268.0 KiB + 220.5 KiB = 488.5 KiB	dbus-daemon
416.0 KiB + 106.5 KiB = 522.5 KiB	dhcpcd
548.0 KiB + 869.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	bash (2)
  1.4 MiB + 177.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB	wpa_supplicant
  1.5 MiB + 716.0 KiB =   2.2 MiB	udevd (2)
  2.8 MiB + 937.5 KiB =   3.7 MiB	xterm
  6.2 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   7.5 MiB	icewm
  7.8 MiB + 778.5 KiB =   8.5 MiB	Xorg
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                         27.6 MiB
=================================

There is always a slight variation when running ps_mem or free -m (maybe someone can explain?) I've seen it as low as 23MB for the same setup but 64bit and fully loaded booting to the desktop (tint2 and fittstool) it's around 35MB... Of course then you fire up a browser That said. I only currently have netsurf or dillo as my gui browser which will take you to the dizzy heights of 48MB but you know what I mean.

Of one thing I'm sure. It should not be the interface that hogs memory if you set it up methodically. I use the same very tweaked interface on my atoms as my i5's because it's very easy, very fast, very light and very configurable because it follows the Unix philosophy.

Bang for your buck is what I like because I run a lot of old low powered machines. The current state of the desktop on Gnu/Linux doesn't offer many new features bar a bit of bling. In fact many features that did exist are being dumbed down, and bling is replacing speed. DE's like TDE where you can turn off the bling in return for speed will always get a thumbs up from me.

[Nili]

I learned way back on #! & LinuxBBQ how to manage my system and use it as KISS & Unix philosophy.
Since then, i don't install junks.

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

 72.0 KiB + 126.5 KiB = 198.5 KiB	hddtemp
200.0 KiB + 111.5 KiB = 311.5 KiB	startx
180.0 KiB + 175.0 KiB = 355.0 KiB	init
184.0 KiB + 308.5 KiB = 492.5 KiB	xinit
388.0 KiB + 481.5 KiB = 869.5 KiB	su
528.0 KiB + 410.5 KiB = 938.5 KiB	login
  1.3 MiB + 251.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	udevd
  1.4 MiB + 300.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB	bash
  2.2 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   4.1 MiB	rxvt-unicode
  8.2 MiB + 826.0 KiB =   9.0 MiB	Xorg
 12.9 MiB +   2.3 MiB =  15.2 MiB	openbox
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                         34.6 MiB
=================================
#! nili ~ $ free -h
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          2.0G       384M       1.6G        20M        38M       299M
-/+ buffers/cache:        46M       1.9G
Swap:         4.0G       464K       4.0G
#! nili ~ $ uptime
 15:34:01 up 1 day,  5:59,  1 user,  load average: 0.19, 0.10, 0.08
#! nili ~ $ 

This is fake busy

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

176.0 KiB +  75.5 KiB = 251.5 KiB	startx
192.0 KiB + 106.0 KiB = 298.0 KiB	init
172.0 KiB + 145.5 KiB = 317.5 KiB	xinit
372.0 KiB +  71.5 KiB = 443.5 KiB	hddtemp
380.0 KiB + 357.5 KiB = 737.5 KiB	su
516.0 KiB + 315.5 KiB = 831.5 KiB	login
768.0 KiB + 523.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB	compton
  1.3 MiB + 152.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB	udevd
  1.3 MiB + 221.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB	bash
  1.2 MiB + 558.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	conky
  1.9 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   4.0 MiB	tint2
  6.6 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   7.8 MiB	x-terminal-emulator
  5.1 MiB +   3.4 MiB =   8.5 MiB	spacefm
  6.1 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   8.9 MiB	openbox
  5.5 MiB +   6.0 MiB =  11.5 MiB	obconf
  7.8 MiB +   4.9 MiB =  12.7 MiB	Xorg
 12.1 MiB +   3.9 MiB =  15.9 MiB	obmenu
 14.8 MiB +   4.5 MiB =  19.3 MiB	deadbeef-gtkui
116.5 MiB +   3.2 MiB = 119.7 MiB	x-www-browser
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                        217.2 MiB
=================================
#! nili ~ $ 

UNIX IS VERY SIMPLE, JUST NEEDS A GENIUS TO UNDERSTAND IT'S SIMPLICITY.

[Deb-fan]

You fellows above dang sure aren't messing around. Call that taking minimal to the maximum. Agree will/would always setup a gnu/nix Os the same on high/low spec. Had never even heard of Tde (Trinity desktop environment) interesting. When a better opportunity presents plan on exploring a bunch of the available DE's and windows managers out there. If only for the experience and sake of it.

Thanks for sharing stats fellow nixers.

[sickpig]

openbox with few bulky apps slotted to autostart like syncthing and autokey.

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Device: laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 5490
UEFI: Dell v: 1.4.2
disk - model: INTEL_SSDSCKKF25 (256 Gb ssd)

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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.7G        219M        7.2G         37M        285M        7.2G
Swap:            0B          0B          0B

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

 80.0 KiB +  35.0 KiB = 115.0 KiB	xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper
208.0 KiB +  38.5 KiB = 246.5 KiB	startx
240.0 KiB + 111.0 KiB = 351.0 KiB	xinit
336.0 KiB + 126.0 KiB = 462.0 KiB	cron
584.0 KiB +  25.0 KiB = 609.0 KiB	ssh-agent
484.0 KiB + 126.5 KiB = 610.5 KiB	irqbalance
668.0 KiB + 261.0 KiB = 929.0 KiB	xfconfd
636.0 KiB + 411.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	systemd-timesyncd
736.0 KiB + 316.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
772.0 KiB + 461.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	systemd-logind
  1.0 MiB + 305.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	gvfsd-fuse
  1.5 MiB + 101.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	rsyslogd
  1.2 MiB + 437.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	gvfsd
  1.1 MiB + 726.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	(sd-pam)
936.0 KiB + 938.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	su
  1.3 MiB + 632.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
  1.7 MiB + 393.0 KiB =   2.1 MiB	systemd-journald
  2.1 MiB + 121.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	systemd-udevd
  1.4 MiB + 944.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	lxpolkit
  2.1 MiB + 338.0 KiB =   2.4 MiB	dhclient
  1.9 MiB + 553.0 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udisksd
880.0 KiB +   1.7 MiB =   2.6 MiB	login (2)
  2.4 MiB + 429.0 KiB =   2.9 MiB	polkitd
  1.9 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   2.9 MiB	gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  2.4 MiB + 579.0 KiB =   3.0 MiB	conky
  1.7 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   3.1 MiB	panel-19-systra
  1.9 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   3.4 MiB	panel-5-xfce4-o
  2.4 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   3.6 MiB	bash (2)
  1.7 MiB +   2.5 MiB =   4.2 MiB	systemd (2)
  4.1 MiB + 465.0 KiB =   4.6 MiB	wpa_supplicant
  3.4 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   5.4 MiB	orage
  3.5 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   5.5 MiB	clipit
  3.3 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   5.7 MiB	panel-38-whiske
  5.6 MiB + 360.0 KiB =   6.0 MiB	xterm
  4.7 MiB +   1.8 MiB =   6.5 MiB	openbox
  7.0 MiB + 408.5 KiB =   7.4 MiB	pulseaudio
  5.3 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   8.1 MiB	xfce4-panel
  8.2 MiB + 902.0 KiB =   9.1 MiB	NetworkManager
 17.7 MiB +   4.6 MiB =  22.3 MiB	pcmanfm
 22.6 MiB +   7.7 MiB =  30.3 MiB	syncthing (2)
 27.1 MiB +   4.2 MiB =  31.3 MiB	Xorg
 33.8 MiB +   4.3 MiB =  38.1 MiB	autokey-gtk
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                        233.8 MiB
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[wizard10000]

Just for grins here are specs on my home server. Server runs plex and calibre, has openbox installed but sits at a login prompt

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wizard@wizard-server:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          7.7Gi       561Mi       294Mi        88Mi       6.9Gi       6.8Gi
Swap:         4.0Gi          0B       4.0Gi

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wizard@wizard-server:~$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: wizard-server Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Precision M4500 v: 0001 
  serial: <root required> 
  Mobo: Dell model: N/A serial: <root required> BIOS: Dell v: A15 
  date: 12/05/2013 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 68.2 Wh condition: 68.2/86.6 Wh (79%) 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7 Q 740 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  Speed: 956 MHz min/max: 933/1734 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 983 2: 1381 
  3: 1099 4: 1153 5: 972 6: 1004 7: 1387 8: 1073 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GT215GLM [Quadro FX 1800M] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
  Display: tty server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel 
  Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e 
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 5c:26:0a:05:70:4a 
  Device-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi 
  IF: wlp3s0 state: down mac: ea:73:9c:47:f4:55 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.59 TiB used: 788.94 GiB (48.4%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500LPLX-75ZNTT0 
  size: 232.89 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Seagate model: ST9500420AS 
  size: 465.76 GiB 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: External USB 3.0 
  size: 931.51 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 12.03 GiB used: 5.75 GiB (47.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
  ID-2: /home size: 212.20 GiB used: 19.54 GiB (9.2%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda3 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: 47.0 C gpu: nouveau 
  temp: 53 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2631 
Info:
  Processes: 194 Uptime: 22h 55m Memory: 7.73 GiB used: 1.89 GiB (24.5%) 
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.34 

[GarryRicketson]

Before, I posted Debian on a VM (Qemu), here it is on bare metal, a new (but used) PC:

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garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          garry@debian 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ------------ 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: HP Compaq 8200 Elite CMT PC 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 966 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1440x900 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Default 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Xfce [GTK2] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Tango [GTK2] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 18 
              `"""            CPU: Intel i5-2400 (4) @ 3.400GHz 
                              GPU: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family 
                              Memory: 302MiB / 1816MiB 

                                                      

garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          1.8Gi       236Mi       276Mi        52Mi       1.3Gi       1.3Gi
Swap:         1.9Gi          0B       1.9Gi
garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: debian Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 
  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 8200 Elite CMT PC 
  v: N/A serial: <root required> 
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1494 serial: <root required> 
  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: J01 v02.01 date: 04/06/2011 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-2400 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  Speed: 1640 MHz min/max: 1600/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1602 2: 1596 
  3: 1597 4: 1597 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
  driver: i915 v: kernel 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1440x900~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Desktop v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e 
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 2c:27:d7:1a:ad:de 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 3.31 GiB (0.2%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM010-2EP102 size: 931.51 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AZLX-22JKKA0 
  size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 264.84 GiB used: 2.76 GiB (1.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb7 
  ID-2: /boot size: 9.17 GiB used: 114.5 MiB (1.2%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sdb1 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.89 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 152 Uptime: 6m Memory: 1.77 GiB used: 316.1 MiB (17.4%) 
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32 
garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ 

[Wheelerof4te]

That's a good lappy, Garry.
If you get the chance, add another 4 GB of RAM and it will be a beast.

[PhilGil]

Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison.

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          phil@phil-optiplex-5050 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: OptiPlex 5050 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2715 (dpkg), 8 (flatpak) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: GNOME 3.30.2 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: GNOME Shell 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Adwaita 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: gnome-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             CPU: Intel i7-7700 (8) @ 4.200GHz 
              `"""            GPU: Intel HD Graphics 630 
                              Memory: 1179MiB / 15906MiB 

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi

Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.

[sunrat]

Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison. ...

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi

Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.

When you have 16GB RAM, using ~8% of it at bootup is certainly no reason to consider changing DE.

[PhilGil]

Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison. ...

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi

Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.

When you have 16GB RAM, using ~8% of it at bootup is certainly no reason to consider changing DE.

New (to me) machine. Having an overabundance of RAM isn't something I'm used to. I've also been using Linux long enough that I remember when a full XFCE install (without tweaks) came in at <200mb.

[Nili]

With Openbox i used to have 35MB IDLE. While on Fluxbox i am minus 10MB

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#! nili ~ $ ps_mem
Password: 
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

200.0 KiB + 122.5 KiB = 322.5 KiB	startx
196.0 KiB + 177.0 KiB = 373.0 KiB	init
372.0 KiB + 109.5 KiB = 481.5 KiB	hddtemp
172.0 KiB + 332.5 KiB = 504.5 KiB	xinit
380.0 KiB + 529.5 KiB = 909.5 KiB	su
508.0 KiB + 450.5 KiB = 958.5 KiB	login
  1.3 MiB + 234.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	udevd
  1.4 MiB + 286.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB	bash
  3.1 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   4.4 MiB	fluxbox
  3.3 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   4.7 MiB	rxvt-unicode
  8.0 MiB + 538.0 KiB =   8.5 MiB	Xorg
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                         24.3 MiB
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Window Managers (stacks/tile) are my all time fav tools on Linux.

[Hallvor]

My main rig with many enabled services:

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hallvor@debian-thinkpad:~$ free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7669         691        6261         124         716        6617
Swap:          7879           0        7879

Running Konsole, Dolphin and Konqueror (on FDN):

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hallvor@debian-thinkpad:~$ free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7669         853        5773         240        1042        6336
Swap:          7879           0        7879

[Deb-fan]

Nice stats people, thanks for sharing.

Dang Nili, you aren't messing around. Are these modern gnu/Linux operating systems or old stable, dated one's? Am more than happy with sub-100mbs/ram in 2019. Openbox does everything I could need. Don't need icons, panel launchers etc. Can launch whichever apps with keyboard shortcuts, run dialogue, terminal or if absolutely want to touch a mouse/pad, openbox's right-click menu. Been considering removing it. Never use it anymore but it uses so little in resources may as well leave it alone.

Remember you/Nili from #! and BBQ, hope you're doing well fellow nixer.

[Nili]

Hi deb-fan, It's been a while that haven't done editing on WM. Yesterday i took it seriously tweaking Fluxbox.
After used for a while Opnebox I'm already on Fluxbox boat.

On Openbox i used to have many configs like obmenu, obconf, compton, conky, xdotool, hddtemp, lm-sensors and many other snippets to make Opnebox looks fine. I'm happy for Openbox, i removed from my .xinitrc but not the configs or installs, in case i want use back enough to change the wm name.

So i decided to lighten even more by using Fluxbox.
Openbox runs up to 20MB while Fluxbox runs up to 7MB.

Fluxbox single alone package do almost every thing Openbox do, OK not all but almost do, Fluxbox have his toolbar, keys+mouse configs, apps manager, init, menu etc. While Openbox i must install a few packages to make it completed.

vsido/fluxbox have inspired me a lot. user=PackRat is an veteran on WM configs in particular fluxbox. Got many ideas or used a few configs for my tweaks.

I'm testing those Window Managers on very very old hardware from 2007, Because I like to keep old stuff working as long as i can.

Thank you for your consideration. Well, the good old time of #! those where the days, i was there from 2011 but wished to be a bit more early from the start 2007/2008. That community + LinuxBBQ taught me interesting things to learn.

Regards!