Buying a laptop

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Re: Buying a laptop

Postby Deb-fan » 2020-02-26 23:07

@Fopenp, that's a beast of a system ... nice. Sounds like something OP should definitely consider too. If they have some kind of decent enough credit or reasonable payment plan arrangement that doesn't include extortionate interest rates. Here in the states payday loan and rent to own places can legally charge people more than what mafia loan sharks generally do. Yikes. You buy new and pay it off you have most control of features, spec's and components. Can make sure you don't end up with a problem child hardware component, ie: Broadcom. Plus you should get warranty coverage with it there? Something breaks, they've got to fix it.

Only ever bought one laptop new myself and yep, ironically the hard drive did blow out in less than a year. Had them send me a shipping box with shipping already paid on it, sent it back to them. They had to fix it and send it back to me. They had to cover all shipping costs both ways too. Lol ... at first they actually offered to just send me a new drive and I could install it. Nope that's why I bought w a warranty. You/they got to handle such hassles.
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Re: Buying a laptop

Postby Hallvor » 2020-02-27 09:27

fopenp wrote:So, for a main machine, I suggest you to reflect on this: it's better saving money today and using a precarious machine for years, or is better accumulating money and buy a modern machine (for 400-500 EUR) which will go fast for a decade?


Computers tend to last longer than their usefulness. I still have a working Commodore 64 from the early 1980s.

I would rather have a high quality second hand computer, not only because it is a high quality piece, but because it is a few years old and almost certain to work with Debian stable.
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Re: Buying a laptop

Postby fopenp » 2020-02-27 12:34

stevepusser wrote:Do you have that hardware video decoder working in Linux? I know we have it working out of the box for Intel GPUs with va-api on MX Linux, and suspect we also have it working for AMD GPUS, but don't have any hardware to test that, and it's tough to get users to test that for some reason.

Yes, I use the amdgpu driver and I never had any problem with H.264 and HEVC. VDPAU works out of the box in Debian.

I tried to playing Big Buck Bunny at 1080p60 with H.264 and HEVC encoding, using mplayer. VDPAU has been automatically chosen, and the videos are always fluid. Mplayer complains that my system is too slow... it's the opposite! "vdpauinfo" command indicates the following supported profiles: H264_BASELINE, H264_MAIN, H264_HIGH, HEVC_MAIN... and others.

I've installed and upgraded a new MX 19.1 (Patito Feo) AHS x64 and I seen the same results.

P.S.: In MX I had to use a Wi-Fi dongle key because the (staging) "r8822be" module for my Realtek 8822BE Wi-Fi chip has not been compiled into kernel.
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Re: Buying a laptop

Postby arzgi » 2020-02-27 15:48

Hallvor wrote:Computers tend to last longer than their usefulness. I still have a working Commodore 64 from the early 1980s.


Those times electronics was more coarse, wider conduct lines etc. I had long a Spectravideo SV-328, which back then here was the biggest rival to C64. I kept it till I noticed have not touched it for 5 years, so discarded it.

I have had many mother boards breaking last, err, n years. Add on cards too.
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Re: Buying a laptop

Postby Hallvor » 2020-02-27 16:11

Yes, by all means, those things were built to last, but I am not suggesting that people should keep their hardware for 40 years. I have not owned hardware before that I didn't want to throw in the garbage bin after maximum 10 years and get something new, even if they worked flawlessly.

I have never had any big problems with hardware failing, except a HDD and a motherboard, but the latter was my own stupid fault. I am sure it would have lasted much longer without my abuse. :lol:
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