Linux Strategy for Parental Control

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Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby bester69 » 2020-06-21 10:30

Hi,

To prevent children access porn, I had thought about following measures to create a linux system they can work with and not being able to access any porn.:

0.- Fix DNS with porn parental control:
edit resolv.conf with CleanBrwosing DNS

1.- Mount all not system devices with forbidden execute permissions, so they cant run any autoexecutable applications like Appimage
mount /tmp folder with not executable permissions as well

2.- Restrict sudoers to run only few scripts and synaptic, so we can monitor what they've installed from synaptic history
2.1 blacklist some packages in synaptic, so we can prevent them to install application can dowload porn such as (amule, kodi, tor...)
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove
or with chattr .: (creating an empty file so it crashes blacklisted installations touch /bin/kodi && chattr +i /bin/kodi)

3. Just in case, protect some sensible files by changing attibutes to only read by using chattr.
chattr +i sudoers, fstab, resolv.conf, sources.list

4- Lock Chrome extensions, so they cant bypass dns system or install any proxy browser.

5- Create a wrapup gksudo editor, so they can edit some configuration system files paths.. and not modify files like sudoers, fstab, etc

6- Filer Mac IP to use only parental computer, and protect router password so they cant download data porn wifi to smartphone without consuming their own data movil tarife

7- Protect BIOS with password so they cant boot to a device and make use of a livecd o liveusb
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I think with these all few measure, we can be sure, they wil be able to work properly and not being able to acces any porn at the same time unless, for a few years.. :mrgreen:
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What do you think??, do you see any vulnerability in theses measures? :?:
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby Bloom » 2020-06-21 12:16

You cannot prevent your children to have access to porn. If they can't get it inside your house, they will get it from another location where you don't have control. Bet on it.
It's better to guide your children so that they know what they see is not proper loving sex like in a relationship. And that ALL girls and women they meet or will meet will not like to be treated that way. That's much more effective.
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-06-21 12:37

Doing stuff like that is a bit like putting a bell on your cat's collar — it doesn't stop them from killing things, it just makes them better at being stealthy.

And anyway there was no interweb at all when I was growing up but I still managed to find porn.
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby bester69 » 2020-06-21 13:03

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Doing stuff like that is a bit like putting a bell on your cat's collar — it doesn't stop them from killing things, it just makes them better at being stealthy.

And anyway there was no interweb at all when I was growing up but I still managed to find porn.


Ok,But Its just not the same have to being to be stealthy and seeking for ways to get porn, that just turn on computer and open gates to hell..

Its no the same things, having a botle of wine hidden below the bed, that having a drink's bar in your stayroom..there's big difference.. and the idea is to blind and prevent children access to porn, not to prevent adolescent growed..
porn is a huge sin that corrupts and curse souls, thought, those that belongs to devil doesnt experience these curses..
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby bester69 » 2020-06-21 13:17

Bloom wrote:You cannot prevent your children to have access to porn. If they can't get it inside your house, they will get it from another location where you don't have control. Bet on it.
It's better to guide your children so that they know what they see is not proper loving sex like in a relationship. And that ALL girls and women they meet or will meet will not like to be treated that way. That's much more effective.


You gave me an idea, It happens to me that perhaps:
8.- A solution could be blacklist all video players but one , and give temporary access to that video player, when they require, so this way they could not wacth any movie throught an external source, such an usb disk.

Another interesting idea, would be to make use of virtual pc and a clien/server deploy, so this way, they would use terminal client to work with, that would make to watch movies very annoy, becouse of remote connexion would make video streaming very uncappable. They would have theirs terminals consoles in their bedrooms, and would work in remote. :o We could use someting like vmware vsphere
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby pendrachken » 2020-06-21 16:13

1: just give up. You won't be able to stop them, no matter what they do. A big IT team couldn't stop shop class kids back in 1998 from accessing porn at my school, so YOU won't be able to stop your kids from it.

2: try being a real parent and talking to your damn kids instead of this tortuous bullshittery just so you can "protect" them by sitting back and ignoring them while technology attempts to "keep them safe"

3: if the internet is "the gates to hell" get the **** off of it yourself. You've already proven to have no self control since you can't seem to stop yourself from making a frankendebian on everything. If you can't keep a Debian stable install pure, how the hell do you plan on keeping yourself "pure"?

4: yeah, I see vulnerabilities in your measures. YOU. If you have to ask, you don't understand security enough yet. Your kids will always find a way around anything you try and block. Period. Unless you've had networking / security as a JOB the last 10-20 years, your kids will likely understand more of the system than you do.
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby bester69 » 2020-06-21 17:05

pendrachken wrote:1: just give up. You won't be able to stop them, no matter what they do. A big IT team couldn't stop shop class kids back in 1998 from accessing porn at my school, so YOU won't be able to stop your kids from it.

2: try being a real parent and talking to your damn kids instead of this tortuous bullshittery just so you can "protect" them by sitting back and ignoring them while technology attempts to "keep them safe"

3: if the internet is "the gates to hell" get the **** off of it yourself. You've already proven to have no self control since you can't seem to stop yourself from making a frankendebian on everything. If you can't keep a Debian stable install pure, how the hell do you plan on keeping yourself "pure"?

4: yeah, I see vulnerabilities in your measures. YOU. If you have to ask, you don't understand security enough yet. Your kids will always find a way around anything you try and block. Period. Unless you've had networking / security as a JOB the last 10-20 years, your kids will likely understand more of the system than you do.

heheh, :twisted: I think you're exagerating a lot, aren't you?... Im not an expert at all, neither have big experience as networking security, thouth yet, I consider my measures purposed are kind of easy to deploy and very solid.. you have to understand they are planned for kids not for hackers.. :lol: ..
If you cant install any player, p2p program, and you cant modify resolv.conf, and you cant install any browser addon, neither a proxy, cant boot any usb/dvd I doubt a lot you can get any porn access in your computer.... so, Whats wrong with all of you!!..
they might get some magazines porn .. I wouldnt buy them any smartphone til they are 16yo or so, neither.... comeon!!!, we can find a midle point :?

by the way, after five years of dealing with debian and playing with packages installations, i consider my system installation an advanced and perfect one.. my franquendebian is debian stable certificate, in my point of view.. it just differs in using an ubuntu kernel engine.
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby bester69 » 2020-06-21 17:20

The interesting, would be you to purpose some smart, clever , good and easy to deploy parental control measures.. that would be good instead
to criticize everithing..
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Re: Linux Strategy for Parental Control

Postby LE_746F6D617A7A69 » 2020-06-21 17:51

+1 to education - there's no better way.
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