ninjatux wrote:The BSDs do use some GNU software, but they do have more than adequate versions of their own. To insinuate that BSDs owe their survival to GNU is a gross error. BSDs do not need GNU, and one of the biggest goals within the OpenBSD community is to find a replacement for GCC. I'll bet that if they accomplish this, then the other BSDs will follow suit. Also, realize that GNU is really much of a Linux thing. Most Unixes that share lineage with the original still have not switched to a GNU userland. In my opinion, the GNU userland is great for its portability, and I have respect for it as such, but GNU/Linux needs to take a different direction towards integration because as a BSD user, I can say that it's a mess. 7500 distributions (and growing) that are trying to accomplish the same few goals is absurd. Look at the BSDS. There are four main projects (with a couple of spin offs that provide preconfigured desktops) and each project has a separate goal. OpenBSD aims for maximum security and stability, FreeBSD for maximum performance and scalability, NetBSD for maximum portability, and DragonflyBSD for best SMP performance and clustering features. These projects share code with one another, and users of one operating system don't hesitate to recommend another if their system doesn't exactly fit the needs. A lot of FreeBSD folks have recommended OpenBSD from time to time for use on a firewall machine and so on. BSD development really reflects what Unix is all about.
It's true that the BSD's have their own set of tools and even RMS doesn't refer to them as GNU systems. But a compiler....c'mon that's not trivial. Possibly the various free BSDs, or something like them, could have been developed without GNU tools but in fact it hasn't happened, they all rely on GNU tools at the most fundamental level, without exception, so the situation (the real one, not some hypothetical one) is that they absolutely depend on the existence of Stallman's creations. If BSD developers can develop their own complete set of tools then more power to them, who could object? But that day hasn't arrived yet.
Nobody is insinuating anything, but pejorative language seems to be popular with many people who use free software but object to its origins or to the some of the people who promote it.