Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby BioTube » 2010-03-13 02:28

Kerr wrote:Regardless of what you may be thinking of Bill Gates.
By selling MS-DOS to IBM clones(and thus stabbing IBM in the back) he freed the hardware market.
And thuds prevented a Hardware/software vendor lock-in liike Apple(or Amiga, Atari for those who remeber other computers).
Not quite true - there was an open standard(in more or less the modern sense of the term) that came out before the PC, but it was advertized only as a game console and eventual got given up on(it did, however, attract at lot of business attention in the lower end).
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby dotlj » 2010-04-03 16:30

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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby BowCatShot » 2010-04-04 13:26

"Regardless of what you may be thinking of Bill Gates.
By selling MS-DOS to IBM clones(and thus stabbing IBM in the back) he freed the hardware market.
And thuds prevented a Hardware/software vendor lock-in liike Apple(or Amiga, Atari for those who remeber other computers)."

Further not quite true. IBM was prevented by court decision from dominating both the hardware and software market. It was called unbundling and it occured in the era of the 360 mainframes when 99% of the hardware and software could only be obtained from IBM. So when big blue produced the pc they could either sell the hardware or the os, but not both. They elected to sell the machines and farm out the os development. They took bids and Gates lied his way into the contract.
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby canci » 2010-04-04 13:55

At least the SideWinder gamepads, the mice, as well as Age of Empires are very good products. :)
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby johnschong » 2010-04-04 15:38

Check out Youtube.

I've seen a clip before.

Bill Gates said the Apple is a good computer.

In my opinion, Steve Jobs is the father of the PC.
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby sir fer » 2010-04-04 22:11

What about the guy who designed the Altair? IMO whoever got computers into homes first is the father of the PC.
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby dotlj » 2010-04-05 14:32

sir fer wrote:What about the guy who designed the Altair? IMO whoever got computers into homes first is the father of the PC.


Altairs were being sold as kits or complete computers when the apple 1 was only a printed circuit card without the rest of the computer.
Contrary to the wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer
the altair was available not only as a kit but also as a complete computer with floppy disk drive, before the comodore pet (which I did buy because it was available locally but the altairs had all sold out and the cost of importing them put the price out of my reach at the time). The apple II was later and about twice the price.

IMO, since the Altair was available as both a kit and a complete pc, being bought and used before others, it deserves the title.
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby None1975 » 2020-05-29 10:57

Bill Gates might donate billions of dollars, but it appears as though a generous chunk of that money goes to advancing his own causes. Perhaps he can rationalize some of his tactics, but at the very least, you should think twice before assuming one of the richest men in the world has your best interests in mind.
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby stevepusser » 2020-05-30 03:14

Apparently, he can bring long dead threads back from the grave, too.

Look into the black mirror and say, "Bill Gates! Bill Gates! Bill Gates!"
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-05-30 04:05

Removed , because the horse is not dead
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby None1975 » 2020-05-30 10:15

Forgive me. Simply, I didn’t look at the date of this topic ...
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby alan stone » 2020-05-30 12:55

cuckooflew wrote:==========Image==============

The subject, named BG, is not dead yet. :wink:

He seems to be on an ego "I am your father" trip. See this new investigative documentary:

Who Is Bill Gates?

A further discussion on the documentary.
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-05-30 13:16

None1975 wrote:Forgive me. Simply, I didn’t look at the date of this topic ...

No big deal, looks like he wasn't dead after all,..
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby 4D696B65 » 2020-05-30 14:26

None1975 wrote:Forgive me. Simply, I didn’t look at the date of this topic ...

A spam bot livened up this thread just before you posted. Sorry, you will have to return the dead horse award. :D
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Re: Bill Gates, the father of the PC?

Postby None1975 » 2020-05-31 11:44

4D696B65 wrote:Sorry, you will have to return the dead horse award. :D


With pleasure :)
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