Trouble in the land of sidux

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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby craigevil » 2010-08-16 16:29

beavenburt wrote:Some sort of announcement that doesn't really say a lot, make of it what you will:-
http://sidux-ev.de/index.php?name=News& ... ewlang=eng

Forum reaction:-
http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... ic&t=21575

Whatever's going on there is a shame, I quite like sidux - my latest desktop theme is based on sidux. Where will I steal theming ideas from now? :D


Don't you just love how devil explains without really explaining anything?

Another quite fun thread> http://www.sidux.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ic&t=21564


Look at distrowatch.org where sidux has been falling for over a year now. Ever since all the crap happened in the irc channel.


Why you may ask is it still falling?
1) A primarily German speaking irc channel, yes you can get help in English but who is even going to try when you join #sidux all you ever see is people using German.
2) One of the most unhelpful and rude forums of any distro. Anything the devs/moderators do not agree with either gets censored or moved to the read only archives. After the OP gets flamed by all the fanboys and devs.
3) The lack of multimedia support on the forums from day one due to the unwise decision to host the forum on a German server.
sidux is the only distro's forum I have ever seen where any discussion regarding the dmm repo or mplayer is censored. Need to play a dvd too bad, can't play mp3s or avis too bad, burn a disk use a script GUIs are lame.
4) sidux was supposed to be a community distro, but it never was the devs never discuss and issues they just do things their way
totally ignoring what people want
5) sidux is Debian, what a load of BS, no aptitude, no Synaptic, no Gnome, no nano by default, there are many many differences between the way the sidux devs want ppl to do things and the way Debian does them. Need a separate /home when you install? Nope can't do.
God forbid you install any package that does not come with sidux by default.

The use of Greek gods as version names is all well and good but using the Greek letters to spell them especially on the wallpaper is just plain annoying.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby anticapitalista » 2010-08-16 19:08

craigevil wrote:The use of Greek gods as version names is all well and good but using the Greek letters to spell them especially on the wallpaper is just plain annoying.


I actually think that this is one of the best 'features' of sidux.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby beavenburt » 2010-08-16 20:27

Do you know who I blame? That damn scorpion. Everything was rosy until that scorpion got involved! :lol:
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby craigevil » 2010-08-16 20:27

I can't stand wallpapers that have words on them. The scorpion is a good mascot for sidux, you never know when it will bite you.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby milomak » 2010-08-16 21:09

don't run kde and gnome together :D

that has to take the cake.

That Road to Disaster link is funny until you realise they are being serious :shock:

edit: that said i actually liked the distro
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby Jackiebrown » 2010-08-31 04:25

I liked sidux and found their forum very helpful.

I don't use sidux because I grew wary of small team distros after Mepis and Kanotix. I can count on Debian being there and don't have to worry that the distribution will switch to Ubuntu or Stable.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby nadir » 2010-09-07 08:59

http://sidux-ev.de/index.php?name=News& ... cle&sid=69
All i find is rather vague than information. That is the short version:
sidux will be continued, but with another name,

from here:
http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... 91&start=0

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during my search i found a bit of further entertainment too:
http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... ic&t=21535
...
rules...rules...rules....
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby craigevil » 2010-09-07 09:59

nadir wrote:http://sidux-ev.de/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=69
All i find is rather vague than information. That is the short version:
sidux will be continued, but with another name,

from here:
http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... 91&start=0

---------
during my search i found a bit of further entertainment too:
http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... ic&t=21535
...
rules...rules...rules....


wtf they have to ask before they can use the name? Yeah that's real open source. freaking idiots. They should change the name to Moronix.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby jheaton5 » 2010-09-07 12:39

craigevil wrote:wtf they have to ask before they can use the name? Yeah that's real open source. freaking idiots. They should change the name to Moronix.

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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby nadir » 2010-09-07 13:30

Thanks craigevil. I have thought: "Perhaps it is me who has got a strange point of view. Perhaps it is ok or normal to see it that way... even when doing free software and such". But that was my second thought.
My first was: "Wtf?" Followed by:"Explains again why they don't get along with each other".

Like said: i didn't understand very well, but it might be the next name will be phoenix.
In case it matters...for those few years :lol:
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby julian67 » 2010-09-07 15:55

craigevil wrote:wtf they have to ask before they can use the name?


Yes, if they assigned the trademark to another party then they have to ask, or at least they have to desist from using it if so requested.

I don't think it's odd that they assigned the trademark to a non-profit foundation which supervises and administers the project. What seems odd is that the foundation and development team managed to allow such a catastrophic breakdown in communication and complete divergence of views about what the sidux project is supposed to be doing, or maybe how. This is especially odd because there seems to be at least one person who serves in both capacities. Having served on a non-profit board with a similar purpose (not in IT) I can appreciate that the board's view can diverge from the staff/management view but that's why you have regular meetings and discussions. Usually those end with agreement, and anyway should hardly ever be over deal breaking differences because the overarching mission should always be clear to everyone involved from day one. If it is the case that the staff refuse to help fulfil the mission set out when the foundation was formed then they have to be replaced and they certainly don't get to take the trademarks with them or have any claim to them. The other side of the coin may be that the foundation is so poorly run that its members need to consider resigning and allowing the board to be reconstituted. If nobody is interested then it's time to wind up the project. If you have a very bad board which won't acknowledge its deficiencies then the staff might as well jump ship and carry on under a new name (if anyone is interested).

My guess is that unless the creation of the foundation was done in an amazingly naive manner (distinctly possible) then this kind of screw up is only possible when important responsibility or position is assigned to some absolutely bloody minded and impossible individuals, whether on one side or the other.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby beavenburt » 2010-09-13 11:35

Ladies and gentlemen I give you...................aptosid.

http://aptosid.com/index.php?module=new ... play&sid=2
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby traveler » 2010-09-13 12:03

beavenburt wrote:Ladies and gentlemen I give you...................aptosid.

http://aptosid.com/index.php?module=new ... play&sid=2


I think they have treatments for that now.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby julian516 » 2010-09-13 12:06

"aptosid"? Egad. A study in elegance.
In any event there is a brief discussion of it on Distrowatch this morning. I ran sidux (God help me, with smxi -- don't tell!) and I finally left because of the inane behavior on the forum. The greatest strength? A very nicely done user's manual to which I still refer for certain things.

Everybody has to live somewhere, so may aptosid prosper.
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Re: Trouble in the land of sidux

Postby MeanDean » 2010-09-13 14:22

I suggested antasid.....curing the upset found in sid... :lol:
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