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So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby ravisista » 2010-11-03 16:02

Anyone tried it? I tried the LXDE version of it hoping it would be fast on my old computer (512MB RAM) and boy was I wrong. Everything takes forever. I think I will stick with Lenny-XFCE or Puppy. What's your experience/opinion?

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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby llivv » 2010-11-03 16:20

13 Live works on an i830 chipset celeron 1.2 with kms, Full Gnome Desktop loaded and
slow as gbuss with 256 MB of ram
quite an accomplishment if you ask me.. which I doubt anyone will.......
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby MeanDean » 2010-11-03 17:47

So what do you think about Fedora 14?


I try not to...

I always want to like fedora.Maybe I would if I dug into the nitty gritty but the default installs are way WAY too bloated for me.

Sadly I have never managed to do a minimal install either. I always got stuck with needing disk 2 to even install something 'minimal' or seemingly minimal. The end result never seemed very minimal either.

It has been a while since I tried fedora, and I didn't put too much effort into it, so it could just be me. That being said, I like redhat and fedora....somewhat... :wink:
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby nadir » 2010-11-03 18:00

I guess you know, but anyway:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all
click on install CDs, open with a torrent-client and only choose to download the netinstall-CD. With that i could do an installation which was ok for me. Sossego told me that, just to tell the truth.

Besides installing i don't do much with it and it seems rather slow to me too (might well be it is me who is slow cause i don't know it well).
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby MeanDean » 2010-11-03 18:13

the cute teddy bear showed me
Image


damn I want netinst base install and build from there...not from bizcard install... :shock:

Actually I think I problems with that method as well although I do not recall what it was. Might of been my wireless or may have been the slow connection I had and it would of taken forever. Of course that was a couple years ago...might try again...might... :shock:

now if I can puke my way past the panda to download it...
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby llivv » 2010-11-03 18:33

hummm recalling - - when I first spun 13,
something was broken in main libs iirc so when I tried to update the Live system it all fell apart...
Looked around the web page for about 20 minutes, found the notice
than I do with fedora like I do with sid, waited....
when it was fixed I spun 13 again and I'm glad I did...
If I get 14 and have a good report I'll let you know...
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby canci » 2010-11-03 21:56

ravisista wrote:Anyone tried it? I tried the LXDE version of it hoping it would be fast on my old computer (512MB RAM) and boy was I wrong. Everything takes forever. I think I will stick with Lenny-XFCE or Puppy. What's your experience/opinion?

Ravi

How is that even possible? I mean, on a Pentium 4 w/512 MB RAM I ran Linux Mint 7 with Gnome on it, and quite successfully so.
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby oOarthurOo » 2010-11-04 17:05

I'm using it now and really enjoying it. I decided to try it after the Debian maintainer pulled libfprint from Squeeze because it "wasn't stable", not that I could find an open bug with a grave or severe flag. But I digress.

Like Dean I've always wanted to like it, because I respect what Red Hat does for the community, and fedora's community seem like a real good bunch. But it's true that making it as lean as Debian is probably not possible. The rpm package doesn't have the depends, recommends and suggests, so some things just can't be removed only disabled.

It's still pretty lean though, my gnome desktop boots to about 144 MBs used, and that's with all the bells and whistles. Some of that is probably pulse audio, which I can't remove without completely breaking the desktop. Some of it may be SE Linux, which I never used on Debian. All in all though it's a quality and polished product. I haven't experienced any bugs or hitches as of yet. Pretty impressive when you consider how cutting edge they tend to be.

I'm going on week 3 with it, and expect to continue to use it as my primary desktop for the foreseeable future.
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby canci » 2010-11-04 17:52

oOarthurOo wrote:Some of that is probably pulse audio, which I can't remove without completely breaking the desktop.

This is a deal breaker for me.

Also, I sort of never seem to get the point of Fedora. It is neither very universal (like Debian, Arch or the more involving Gentoo, Slackware, ...),
nor does it seem like a very cool full-fletched desktop environment. The only target group I can think of are devs testing for RHEL. Of course,
other people might like it just fine. I sort of have a similar feeling towards openSUSE, but find it much better and more polished than Fedora.
Both distros seem very odd to use after anything apt-get (YaST/yum and their gazillion repositories seem, at least from a noob desktop POV,
very 2003. :) As for more advanced users, Debian's rich repos seem much less of a hassle -- you have everything "home made", even some
non-free stuff, and anything else is probably in debian multimedia.)
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby vicshrike » 2010-11-04 23:49

nothing, have tried Fedora earlier around 9 or 10, wanted to like it, but always ended in a mess, never again, but I love the name though
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby canci » 2010-11-05 00:01

vicshrike wrote:but I love the name though

I also liked the name "Vista" and its theme ;)
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby Coco » 2010-11-05 00:24

Doesn't Lunis use Fedora?
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby beavenburt » 2010-11-05 09:26

I really like fedora and it's now more stable than it's ever been. For desktop however, it's too fast moving to be useful in my opinion. There's too high a risk of breakage for it to be used on production machines. Personally I see it more as a hobbyist distro than a serious desktop os. I've never been able to get fonts displaying very well either, which is a deal breaker in a lot of distros for me. Agree though, fedora is a fantastic name.
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby snowpine » 2010-11-05 13:18

Actually you can get a pretty stable Fedora experience if you stay one release behind. Fedora 13 has had 6 months of bug fixes, but is not outdated or "stale" by any means.
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Re: So what do you think about Fedora 14?

Postby canci » 2010-11-05 13:42

snowpine wrote:Actually you can get a pretty stable Fedora experience if you stay one release behind. Fedora 13 has had 6 months of bug fixes, but is not outdated or "stale" by any means.

Just like sticking to only upgrading to Ubuntu Point Releases, or staying with a Long Term Release once it gets to a Point Release.
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