What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby None1975 » 2018-09-26 14:34

GarryRicketson wrote:they are pretty pricey though (at least from what I saw, even used ones )

To pay for a brand-grated apple? Definetely not.
GarryRicketson wrote:Not so much because programmers prefer them, but because it is Unix based,and certified , the most user friendly and versatile OS , as well as dependable.

It's an inflated business. I call it bullshit. With the new iPhones, the Apple marketing bullshit has reached new heights.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-09-26 22:57

None1975 wrote:It's an inflated business. I call it bullshit. With the new iPhones, the Apple marketing bullshit has reached new heights.


I kind of agree, when it comes to new iPhones, they are not worth their price at all, 750 euro for a phone without full HD display, they are still great phones though.

Also i don't like what Apple is doing with their new laptops (all components soldered to motherboard),
the problem is that they have no competition in this segment imo, i tried to find a laptop with similiar design to Macbook Pro and all i found was i believe some Dell laptop with shitty trackpad and Windows 10 (it was like 200 euro cheaper? ), so no thanks, i would go for MBP anyway.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-09-27 05:10

ruffwoof wrote:Especially with the default 'continue to run in background when closed'. See also https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-secretly-logs-users-into-chrome-whenever-they-log-into-a-google-site/

I can happily confirm that page to be click-bait bullshit: my OpenBSD system does *not* log me into www/chromium if I sign in to my gmail page in the browser.

ruffwoof wrote:I manually maintain time.html as my bookmarks file ... and it includes some javascript to show the date and time in its tab title.

Neat!

ruffwoof wrote:Posting images

I use graphics/scrot for that, it's quicker than opening a paint program.

rufwoof wrote:Your scrot's 385 installed is 300 more than me

Yup, there's a lot of crap in there :D

Back on topic with a scrot of www/chromium and it's new theme:

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Note the difference compared to leafpad, I can't match the colours with it at all :x
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-10-07 10:20

Checking out the new alpha2 release of Dragora GNU/Linux-Libre:

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I'm ever-so-slightly disappointed by the (re-)adoption of sysvinit in preference over openrc-init but I can see why because openrc-init does feel a little bit Heath Robinson in comparison, which is fine for a lone user like me but not so good for a distribution aiming at a wide user base.

Big thumbs up for the default window manager, terminal and shell though — very wise choices all round :cool:

Anyway, link here:

http://rsync.dragora.org/ISO/

Mirrors:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dragora/files/alpha/

http://mirror.fsf.org/dragora/ISO/

EDIT: that VM is running with just 256MiB of RAM assigned so to see it host an X session is mightily impressive, neither pure Debian nor BunsenLabs can manage that.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby oswaldkelso » 2018-10-07 10:49

HoaS you bastard stealing my thunder :mrgreen:

Yes the geeks are loving it. With help I managed to get it running on hardware. Check out Qi https://www.dragora.org/repo.fsl/doc/tr ... oc/qi.html I'm still getting my head around it.
Very much an alpha and lots of bugs. I to was a wee bit disappointed with dropping sinit and runit but there was sound reasoning.

As for dwm it's better than I though but not my cup of tea. I have openbox and trying to build icewm today (with Qi). I suspect icewm will be there as I'm been tasked with making the desktop pretty.
There is a full Desktop environment going to be available but that'll a while yet and I suspect it will be TDE!

Edit:
One guy has it running on his Arm chromebook but not got X fixed yet.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-10-07 13:13

oswaldkelso wrote:HoaS you bastard stealing my thunder

:twisted:

Check out Qi https://www.dragora.org/repo.fsl/doc/tr ... oc/qi.html I'm still getting my head around it.

Oooh, thanks, I was wondering about that.

It looks similar to ebuilds/PKGBUILDs/APKBUILDs so the devs have made another good decision there, Debian's multiple file approach to packaging always confuses the hell out of me.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-10-13 19:03

Another OpenBSD fanboi scrot:

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I'm running -current but the 6.4 release has been tagged in cvs, apparently, so not long now... *rubs hands in glee*

The scrot shows dwm with chromium and two xterms, the lower terminal is running ranger (a cli file manager) with i3m providing the preview images.

EDIT: oh, and that glorious, gorgeous sans-serif font is... *drum roll*
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Puffy:~$ fc-match sans-serif
micross.ttf: "Microsoft Sans Serif" "Regular"
Puffy:~$

I think this is also available in Debian: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/ttf ... -installer
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-10-13 19:40

^Wanted to give OpenBSD/FreeBSD a try but it seriously lacks software :(
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-10-13 19:54

pawRoot wrote:but it seriously lacks software :(

I find that OpenBSD has all the stuff I want, the only things missing are Kodi and some of the more esoteric path tracers (I can't get them to build under OpenBSD).

The porting process is quite straightforward (for OpenBSD, never tried FreeBSD) once the local compilation is successful.

There is also the consideration that if security is at all a concern (as it would be for the average OpenBSD user) then it's best to stick to the base system as much as possible because the ports haven't been vetted as thoroughly.

Anyway, FreeBSD has over 20,000 ports, what are you missing from there?
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-10-13 20:04

First that comes to my mind is Chrome and Visual Studio Code.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-10-13 20:08

pawRoot wrote:Chrome

https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/www/chromium/?
pawRoot wrote:Visual Studio Code

https://github.com/prash-wghats/Electron-VSCode-Atom-For-FreeBSD?

Your search-fu is poor :mrgreen:
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-10-13 20:14

^ well i found topics like this one and thought it's impossible, although i didn't spend much time on research.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby ruffwoof » 2018-10-14 11:23

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:There is also the consideration that if security is at all a concern (as it would be for the average OpenBSD user) then it's best to stick to the base system as much as possible because the ports haven't been vetted as thoroughly.

389 packages indicated in your scrot. Over 300 more than mine (pkg_info | wc -l shows 83). Does all I need, cwm window manager, user/X/chrome gui, tmux/mc root cli. sshfs-fuse for reverse mounting from my (also OpenBSD) data server and to android phone. ddnclient for fixed domain name to dynamic IP so the httpd server in base is active/accessible for sharing stuff. Chrome is pretty much my gui desktop, calculator.html, text.html, online email, mp4/mp3 player ... etc. Also tracking -current myself now and Chrome + Pledge + unveil is working very well. I've also shifted from dual boots to just OpenBSD now (whole disk install).

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-10-14 11:37

ruffwoof wrote:389 packages indicated in your scrot

Yes, yes, we have already established that I have a lot of crap installed :mrgreen:

However, there is no way that an installed package can expose a vulnerability unless it is actually used, unless I am missing something?

As can be seen from my identikit fanboi scrots, I favour a dwm/dmenu/xterm desktop (with a Korn shell rather than bash) and command-line applications whenever possible and I like to think that this minimises my attack surface.

Anyway this is getting rather off-topic so I had better stop.

EDIT: trimmed my package list down to 265 (and changed back to the Luxi fonts):

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My package list is here and I can strip the system back to just what I need with:
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doas pkg_delete -I -X <pkglist.txt

^ This removes all installed packages apart from those mentioned in pkglist.txt (and their dependencies), which is v. useful :)
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

Postby debiman » 2018-10-14 13:19

ruffwoof wrote:Chrome is pretty much my gui desktop, calculator.html, text.html, online email, mp4/mp3 player ... etc.

i'll never understand why people use one of the most secure operating systems there is, only to then hand all their usage stats over to the big G...
unless you can show me proof that *BSD removes the calls to google servers from chrome's source code... wait, it can't, chrome isn't even open source!
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