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What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1531 Post by Lysander »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote: EDIT: the libsystemd0 package was installed with the kernel. So it is needed then.
It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version.

Seeing as we're here... here's mine. I've had it installed for a week on my 'academic' laptop [Lysultra]. It's installed on an SD card, apparently the devs hadn't heard of anyone doing this before and didn't know if it would work, but there it is.

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1532 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Lysander wrote:It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version
Ah, thanks Lysander!

I'm up & running:

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Freedom! :mrgreen:
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1533 Post by Lysander »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:I'm up & running
@thanatos

What a name. I approve [and I'm jealous I didn't think of it].

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#1534 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Lysander wrote:What a name. I approve
Thanks. It's a bit pretentious but what the hell, eh? That bit of the installation is always the most difficult for me...

Obligatory XKCD link: https://xkcd.com/910/

Anyway, sysvinit was confusing the crap out of me so I've changed to OpenRC instead:

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Quick question: what is the colour of the default theme for the Devuan desktop?

The Devuan forums won't let me register without answering that question and I've installed using debootstrap and built the system up from a bare console login so I have literally no idea :mrgreen:

EDIT: nevermind, it gave me some more chances and I got the question right eventually.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1535 Post by ruffwoof »

What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Which one! :)

I toggle between three desktops, and also have a container (secure) desktop
The browser is a form of desktop unto itself.
tmux on my third desktop

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1536 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Lysander wrote:It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version
I upgraded to beowulf and it was indeed removed:

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empty@thanatos:~ $ apt policy libsystemd0
libsystemd0:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 241-1
  Version table:
     241-1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
empty@thanatos:~ $
@anticapitalista: perhaps rebase antiX on Devuan for the next release? :D
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#1537 Post by HuangLao »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:@anticapitalista: perhaps rebase antiX on Devuan for the next release? :D
I second this... :mrgreen:

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#1538 Post by GarryRicketson »

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#1539 Post by anticapitalista »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Lysander wrote:It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version
I upgraded to beowulf and it was indeed removed:

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empty@thanatos:~ $ apt policy libsystemd0
libsystemd0:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 241-1
  Version table:
     241-1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
empty@thanatos:~ $
@anticapitalista: perhaps rebase antiX on Devuan for the next release? :D
No need. We have never had libsystemd0 on antiX even though we are based on Debian.
antiX with runit - lean and mean.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1540 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

anticapitalista wrote:We have never had libsystemd0 on antiX even though we are based on Debian.
Really? :o

I will have to try antiX then, my curiosity is piqued...
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#1541 Post by anticapitalista »

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Last edited by anticapitalista on 2019-03-29 23:24, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1542 Post by anticapitalista »

Give it a go, and if you like what we are doing, come and join us.
We would benefit from your experience and expertise.

This is antiX-17 series (Debian stretch)

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apt policy libsystemd0
libsystemd0:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 232-25+deb9u9
  Version table:
     232-25+deb9u9 500
        500 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates/main amd64 Packages
     232-25+deb9u8 500
        500 http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1543 Post by HuangLao »

anticapitalista wrote:
No need. We have never had libsystemd0 on antiX even though we are based on Debian.
And if someone installs a program that has systemd as a dependency then what? On Devuan, there is no systemd in the repos, not just the live cd or initial install. Users cannot install it even accidentally.

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1544 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

HuangLao wrote:And if someone installs a program that has systemd as a dependency then what?
AFAIUI, antiX has a special nosystemd repository[1] that holds versions of packages that normally depend on systemd but no longer do.

And I would note that it is also impossible to install systemd in Alpine Linux because that distribution is based on musl libc and systemd has a hard dependency on GNU's bloated libc variant; the same is true of Void's musl release.

Here's a scrot of my new, freshly-installed Alpine Linux system to keep this thread at least vaguely on-topic:

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^ 35MiB used at a full graphical desktop, how impressive is that? #nonemoreminimal

@anticapitalista: thank you for your kind words but unfortunately I can't install antiX at the moment because I don't have any free partitions and the installer doesn't seem to support btrfs subvolumes, sadly.

I tried the live version though and I love it, what a fantastic system :)
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1545 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Alpine Linux edge, clean:

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Dirty:

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alpine:~$ fc-match sans-serif
micross.ttf: "Microsoft Sans Serif" "Regular"
alpine:~$ 
:mrgreen:
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#1546 Post by Nili »

openSUSE Tumbleweed KDE/Wayland

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1547 Post by Nili »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:^ 35MiB used at a full graphical desktop, how impressive is that? #nonemoreminimal
If it's x64 arch, I have to say that is the most minimalistic i 've seen or you've achieved.
I went up to 70MB for x64, but didn't play longer to strip.

About x86, well... i have seen more surprises :)

Congratulations for your tweaks/scrots, I saw without commenting mostly.
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#1548 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Nili wrote:If it's x64 arch
Yes it is :)

The musl libc base gives Alpine an advantage over most other GNU/Linux distributions: Devuan manages ~55MiB (under OpenRC) and Debian buster's systemd init pushes that up by another 10MiB or so.

Both are better than Arch though, that takes up 70MiB just at a console screen :o
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#1549 Post by Nili »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Yes it is :)

The musl libc base gives Alpine an advantage over most other GNU/Linux distributions: Devuan manages ~55MiB (under OpenRC) and Debian buster's systemd init pushes that up by another 10MiB or so.

Both are better than Arch though, that takes up 70MiB just at a console screen :o
Interesting! I followed your impressions regarding Alpine, musl, ksh/fish. I really find em fascinate :)
They're on my to do list, once i have a time to check them.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1550 Post by None1975 »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:^ 35MiB used at a full graphical desktop, how impressive is that? #nonemoreminimal
It is very impressive. I never reached such results ...Keep a good computing!
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