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What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
- Nili
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
If it's x64 arch, I have to say that is the most minimalistic i 've seen or you've achieved.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:^ 35MiB used at a full graphical desktop, how impressive is that? #nonemoreminimal
I went up to 70MB for x64, but didn't play longer to strip.
About x86, well... i have seen more surprises
Congratulations for your tweaks/scrots, I saw without commenting mostly.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Yes it isNili wrote:If it's x64 arch
The musl libc base gives Alpine an advantage over most other GNU/Linux distributions: Devuan manages ~55MiB (under OpenRC) and Debian buster's systemd init pushes that up by another 10MiB or so.
Both are better than Arch though, that takes up 70MiB just at a console screen
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Interesting! I followed your impressions regarding Alpine, musl, ksh/fish. I really find em fascinateHead_on_a_Stick wrote:Yes it is
The musl libc base gives Alpine an advantage over most other GNU/Linux distributions: Devuan manages ~55MiB (under OpenRC) and Debian buster's systemd init pushes that up by another 10MiB or so.
Both are better than Arch though, that takes up 70MiB just at a console screen
They're on my to do list, once i have a time to check them.
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- None1975
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
It is very impressive. I never reached such results ...Keep a good computing!Head_on_a_Stick wrote:^ 35MiB used at a full graphical desktop, how impressive is that? #nonemoreminimal
OS: Debian 12.4 Bookworm / DE: Enlightenment
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
On my local tmux, the Prefix key is set to backtick (press it twice to display a backtick). F11 for new window, F12 for next window. Which blends well with mc that uses F1 to F10. And doesn't conflict with a remote tmux that uses the default ctrl-b prefix
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Packaging for Alpine Linux is so much simpler than Debian, although they did steal the method from Arch's PKGBUILDs. But then Arch stole theirs from Gentoo's ebuilds so I suppose that's OK.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Nice and minimal desktop, archimboldo!
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Thank you.None1975 wrote:Nice and minimal desktop, archimboldo!
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
FatDog 8.0 final.
Top bar is the main desktop's. I run a local tmux with its window list also at the top and non default keys ... so when I ssh into another box and run tmux on that the two don't conflict.
Bottom bar is my second secure (container) bar (Xephyr/unshare/chroot/capsh isolation from the main desktop).
Buried under those 14 windows is the desktop, but that's just any old image/picture that looks nice.
Top bar is the main desktop's. I run a local tmux with its window list also at the top and non default keys ... so when I ssh into another box and run tmux on that the two don't conflict.
Bottom bar is my second secure (container) bar (Xephyr/unshare/chroot/capsh isolation from the main desktop).
Buried under those 14 windows is the desktop, but that's just any old image/picture that looks nice.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
This was mostly a experiment , to see if I could change the Xterm icon size, and yes I could,..Using FVWM on OpenBsd it was fairly simple:
The above was when I doubled the size.
Below, doubled it again:
==== edited ====
Guess I should have mentioned, the File manager is "Thunar"
The above was when I doubled the size.
Below, doubled it again:
==== edited ====
Guess I should have mentioned, the File manager is "Thunar"
Last edited by GarryRicketson on 2019-05-02 18:21, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Nice and old school font!Head_on_a_Stick wrote:9front:
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
^ Yeah, 9front rocks
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The RC1 installer worked fine, which is nice.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
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- oswaldkelso
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Dragora3 alpha i386
Only for the adventureus atm with lots of bass application still to built yet, not even a dedicated installer.
The packagemanager qi is neat. named after the chinese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi . I still call it "chee".
The recipes fetch sources and build packages and allows multple versions of the same package with out interferance. In therory you can build Dragora packages and run them on other dristros without screwing with the default distro. like snaps or flatpak packages but with the benefit of always being able to look at and modifying the source as you do it. Don't try this at home unless you know what you're doing and have read and understood the manual http://www.dragora.org/manual/en/html_n ... ement.html
Dragora 3 has the init scheme divided into 2 parts to make it more reliable.
1 Process number 1 (sysvinit) is limited to manage the stages for boot and shutting down the system, but nothing more.
2 Supervisor service (Perp) The control of services is done using Perp only.
This way if the service supervisor dies the system should still run.
No X
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
44.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 44.5 KiB perpboot
64.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 64.5 KiB socklog
72.0 KiB + 1.5 KiB = 73.5 KiB crond
92.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 92.5 KiB perpd
124.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB init
92.0 KiB + 54.5 KiB = 146.5 KiB dpid
120.0 KiB + 48.5 KiB = 168.5 KiB file.dpi
196.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 196.5 KiB acpid
76.0 KiB + 137.0 KiB = 213.0 KiB agetty (2)
184.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 233.5 KiB tinylog (9)
296.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 296.5 KiB rc.main
392.0 KiB + 184.5 KiB = 576.5 KiB dbus-daemon
544.0 KiB + 48.5 KiB = 592.5 KiB dhcpcd
532.0 KiB + 889.0 KiB = 1.4 MiB bash (2)
1.6 MiB + 184.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB wpa_supplicant
1.7 MiB + 666.0 KiB = 2.4 MiB udevd (2)
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8.3 MiB
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DWM
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
44.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 44.5 KiB perpboot
64.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 64.5 KiB socklog
72.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 72.5 KiB crond
92.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 92.5 KiB perpd
124.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB init
92.0 KiB + 36.5 KiB = 128.5 KiB dpid
96.0 KiB + 44.5 KiB = 140.5 KiB file.dpi
68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB rc.main
72.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 186.5 KiB startx
76.0 KiB + 111.0 KiB = 187.0 KiB agetty (2)
196.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 196.5 KiB acpid
184.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 233.5 KiB tinylog (9)
160.0 KiB + 225.5 KiB = 385.5 KiB xinit
272.0 KiB + 215.5 KiB = 487.5 KiB dbus-daemon
416.0 KiB + 98.5 KiB = 514.5 KiB dhcpcd
732.0 KiB + 913.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB bash (3)
1.6 MiB + 170.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB wpa_supplicant
1.5 MiB + 712.0 KiB = 2.2 MiB udevd (2)
2.3 MiB + 856.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB dwm
2.9 MiB + 828.5 KiB = 3.7 MiB st
7.7 MiB + 490.5 KiB = 8.2 MiB Xorg
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23.6 MiB
=================================
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
44.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 44.5 KiB perpboot
64.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 64.5 KiB socklog
72.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 72.5 KiB crond
92.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 92.5 KiB perpd
92.0 KiB + 27.5 KiB = 119.5 KiB dpid
124.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB init
120.0 KiB + 25.5 KiB = 145.5 KiB file.dpi
76.0 KiB + 96.0 KiB = 172.0 KiB agetty (2)
68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB rc.main
68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB startx
196.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 196.5 KiB acpid
184.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 233.5 KiB tinylog (9)
108.0 KiB + 151.5 KiB = 259.5 KiB xinit
152.0 KiB + 179.5 KiB = 331.5 KiB fittstool
272.0 KiB + 185.5 KiB = 457.5 KiB dbus-daemon
420.0 KiB + 88.5 KiB = 508.5 KiB dhcpcd
432.0 KiB + 982.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB icewm-session
728.0 KiB + 925.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB bash (3)
1.6 MiB + 162.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB wpa_supplicant
792.0 KiB + 1.0 MiB = 1.8 MiB icewmtray
1.5 MiB + 656.0 KiB = 2.2 MiB udevd (2)
1.8 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 3.0 MiB icewmbg
2.6 MiB + 468.5 KiB = 3.1 MiB xterm
4.1 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 5.4 MiB icewm
7.9 MiB + 429.5 KiB = 8.3 MiB Xorg
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31.5 MiB
=================================
Anyway the desktop stuff
running icewm 1.4.2
terrible gif screenshot as I didn't compile in png support with shutterbug https://b2aeaa58a57a200320db-8b65b95250 ... source.gif
Only for the adventureus atm with lots of bass application still to built yet, not even a dedicated installer.
The packagemanager qi is neat. named after the chinese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi . I still call it "chee".
The recipes fetch sources and build packages and allows multple versions of the same package with out interferance. In therory you can build Dragora packages and run them on other dristros without screwing with the default distro. like snaps or flatpak packages but with the benefit of always being able to look at and modifying the source as you do it. Don't try this at home unless you know what you're doing and have read and understood the manual http://www.dragora.org/manual/en/html_n ... ement.html
Dragora 3 has the init scheme divided into 2 parts to make it more reliable.
1 Process number 1 (sysvinit) is limited to manage the stages for boot and shutting down the system, but nothing more.
2 Supervisor service (Perp) The control of services is done using Perp only.
This way if the service supervisor dies the system should still run.
No X
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
44.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 44.5 KiB perpboot
64.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 64.5 KiB socklog
72.0 KiB + 1.5 KiB = 73.5 KiB crond
92.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 92.5 KiB perpd
124.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB init
92.0 KiB + 54.5 KiB = 146.5 KiB dpid
120.0 KiB + 48.5 KiB = 168.5 KiB file.dpi
196.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 196.5 KiB acpid
76.0 KiB + 137.0 KiB = 213.0 KiB agetty (2)
184.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 233.5 KiB tinylog (9)
296.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 296.5 KiB rc.main
392.0 KiB + 184.5 KiB = 576.5 KiB dbus-daemon
544.0 KiB + 48.5 KiB = 592.5 KiB dhcpcd
532.0 KiB + 889.0 KiB = 1.4 MiB bash (2)
1.6 MiB + 184.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB wpa_supplicant
1.7 MiB + 666.0 KiB = 2.4 MiB udevd (2)
---------------------------------
8.3 MiB
=================================
DWM
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
44.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 44.5 KiB perpboot
64.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 64.5 KiB socklog
72.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 72.5 KiB crond
92.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 92.5 KiB perpd
124.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB init
92.0 KiB + 36.5 KiB = 128.5 KiB dpid
96.0 KiB + 44.5 KiB = 140.5 KiB file.dpi
68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB rc.main
72.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 186.5 KiB startx
76.0 KiB + 111.0 KiB = 187.0 KiB agetty (2)
196.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 196.5 KiB acpid
184.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 233.5 KiB tinylog (9)
160.0 KiB + 225.5 KiB = 385.5 KiB xinit
272.0 KiB + 215.5 KiB = 487.5 KiB dbus-daemon
416.0 KiB + 98.5 KiB = 514.5 KiB dhcpcd
732.0 KiB + 913.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB bash (3)
1.6 MiB + 170.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB wpa_supplicant
1.5 MiB + 712.0 KiB = 2.2 MiB udevd (2)
2.3 MiB + 856.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB dwm
2.9 MiB + 828.5 KiB = 3.7 MiB st
7.7 MiB + 490.5 KiB = 8.2 MiB Xorg
---------------------------------
23.6 MiB
=================================
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
44.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 44.5 KiB perpboot
64.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 64.5 KiB socklog
72.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 72.5 KiB crond
92.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 92.5 KiB perpd
92.0 KiB + 27.5 KiB = 119.5 KiB dpid
124.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 124.5 KiB init
120.0 KiB + 25.5 KiB = 145.5 KiB file.dpi
76.0 KiB + 96.0 KiB = 172.0 KiB agetty (2)
68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB rc.main
68.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB startx
196.0 KiB + 0.5 KiB = 196.5 KiB acpid
184.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 233.5 KiB tinylog (9)
108.0 KiB + 151.5 KiB = 259.5 KiB xinit
152.0 KiB + 179.5 KiB = 331.5 KiB fittstool
272.0 KiB + 185.5 KiB = 457.5 KiB dbus-daemon
420.0 KiB + 88.5 KiB = 508.5 KiB dhcpcd
432.0 KiB + 982.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB icewm-session
728.0 KiB + 925.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB bash (3)
1.6 MiB + 162.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB wpa_supplicant
792.0 KiB + 1.0 MiB = 1.8 MiB icewmtray
1.5 MiB + 656.0 KiB = 2.2 MiB udevd (2)
1.8 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 3.0 MiB icewmbg
2.6 MiB + 468.5 KiB = 3.1 MiB xterm
4.1 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 5.4 MiB icewm
7.9 MiB + 429.5 KiB = 8.3 MiB Xorg
---------------------------------
31.5 MiB
=================================
Anyway the desktop stuff
running icewm 1.4.2
terrible gif screenshot as I didn't compile in png support with shutterbug https://b2aeaa58a57a200320db-8b65b95250 ... source.gif
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