What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

[debiman]

It's the standard panel (taskbar) the setting are in preferences
TaskBarDoubleHeight=1 # 0/1
There are extensive config options in icewm for both looks and usage but most people fire it up says it's ugly and disappear. A handy built in run dialog springs to mind and windows cascade iirc

not me!
icewm is great for people who want a simple, familiar desktop paradigm.
it has billions of themes, iirc.
but i need something that can do manual tiling (keyboard shortcuts to move & resize windows) - icewm doesn't have much there. iirc.

http://siag.nu/ Part of siag office spreadsheet, writer and a few other bits n bobs. Very old and unsupported but also very neat.

could not find a way to compile it myself, or a package.
but since it's clearly a word processor and not a text editor, i'm not so interested anyway.

Open Cubic Player seems to play most formats no streaming radio support that I could see but there are plugins so it maybe possible.

i see.
i tried it once and something put me off; maybe i should try again.

[Nili]

Plain Openbox, no bar/panel. bottom conky-std

[None1975]

Plain Openbox, no bar/panel. bottom conky-std

Nice icons in Openbox menu.

[Nili]

Nice icons in Openbox menu.

Thanks mate, Icons in fact are chatsheets for ttf-font-awesome-4 from Arch AUR.

I simple set it manually on Openbox menu.xml

[bedtime]

The configuration

Of what? Which window manager & operating system is that?

Really sorry about the delay... It's Debian 9 with i3 wm.

As to the config, it's really just a bunch of scripts written in sh: I made backups of all the config files which use hex colour codes (i.e., .Xresources -> .Xresources.orig, muttrc -> muttrc.orig...). Then I replaced the hex codes with new and distinct colour identifiers (i.e., #000000 -> @background, #ffffff -> @foreground in .orig files). These .orig files are then copied back to match their default file names (i.e., .Xresources.orig -> .Xresources) and have their identifiers changed according to the colour the user picks (i.e., @foreground -> #ff0000...). The mouse and icons are changed using 'convert'.

That is nice, I like FVWM myself, if I do use a WM on Minix 3, that is what I use.
Here, below, is the server (Minix 3) , connected to it with Iridium browser, the server is on a QEMU VM, the host is OpenBsd, and sometimes get confused as to where I am.

Any way, I am here,...
In the top Xterm, I am logged into the server via ssh, not using any WM, the Xterm window at the bottom, is the OpenBsd host terminal,... and the WM on the OpenBsd host is OpenBox.

Is this Minix 3.3 or 3.4rc? I've heard that 3.3 doesn't do xorg. Love the ASCII racoon!

[GarryRicketson]

It is 3.4rc

[praka123]

Devuan Ascii with Cinnamon desktop (uses elogind):

[pawRoot]

Just installed freshly released Mac OS Mojave, finally Apple added dark theme, which looks super cool.

[Head_on_a_Stick]

Mac OS

dark theme, which looks super cool

Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see

What's with that top-bar? Do you actually like that cluttered mess and can you clean it up in any way?

Wall of terminal to compensate:



Not in the scrot but Chromium is running under unveil(2), it is invoked with a simple wrapper:

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Puffy:~$ cat `which chrome`
/usr/local/bin/chrome --enable-unveil
Puffy:~$

The entire filesystem tree is then invisible to the browser, I have to start the binary directly to be able to upload scrots

[None1975]

Just installed freshly released Mac OS Mojave, finally Apple added dark theme, which looks super cool.

I have never understood the people who drink from the apple products.

[GarryRicketson]

I do and would really like to get one, they are pretty pricey though (at least from what I saw, even used ones ) I still may get one, if and when get a new computer. Why ?
Not so much because programmers prefer them, but because it is Unix based,and certified , the most user friendly and versatile OS , as well as dependable.

https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/appl ... e-3638706/The herd switched to OS X from rival operating systems over an extended period. And part of this (a big part, according to many programmers) was when Apple released OS X. For the last 15 years Apple's operating system has been built on top of Unix, the command-line OS that powers much of the world's filesystems and servers.

Indeed, OS X is a fully featured Unix operating system (certified as Unix by the Open Standard Groups). Not even modern versions of Linux, such as Mint or Ubuntu, are certified Unix operating systems (they are based on GNU instead of Unix).

"The [Unix] shell is very important for a programmer," says Jessica Su, a CS PhD student at Stanford. "It lets you run programs in almost any language without using a specialised IDE. It's also important if you want a job at a tech company since many companies make their employees work on Unix-based systems.

[pawRoot]

Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see

why ?

What's with that top-bar? Do you actually like that cluttered mess and can you clean it up in any way?

Nothing wrong with the top bar to be honest, the way it works is it shows options for active window, thanks to that
programs top bars don't look awfully like in Windows (since they are not there)

I have never understood the people who drink from the apple products.

I'm not even buying Apple products anymore, just using Mac OS on my PC.

I do and would really like to get one, they are pretty pricey though

You can install it on PC. (depending on your motherboard, CPU, GPU etc.), it's lot of effort though.

because it is Unix based,and certified , the most user friendly and versatile OS , as well as dependable.

Exactly, by using Homebrew i can install A LOT of Linux packages on it, so when i'm using terminal i kind of feel likein Debian .

Also it's super stable, a lot of good software, a lot of good functions, and i can get my work done without trying to fix things or reading 100 pages of manuals.

If i want to let's say create new partition and encrypt it, 2 or 3 clicks.
If i want to backup my whole drive systematically to another drive ? 2 clicks.

There is lots of things like that, for example file preview in finder, by pressing space you can preview any file, even Photoshop files without opening Photoshop itself, that is why a lot of programmers/designers etc. love it!

[Head_on_a_Stick]

Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see

why ?

The only version of Apple's operating system I have used was the original graphical desktop back in the eighties[1] and I see that the basic layout & paradigm is the same.

What's with that top-bar? Do you actually like that cluttered mess and can you clean it up in any way?

Nothing wrong with the top bar to be honest, the way it works is it shows options for active window

So just like the GNOME top panel but with added clutter?

[1] I hated it:

[pawRoot]

Yes, the theme is very nice but the desktop is still stuck in the stone age, I see

why ?

The only version of Apple's operating system I have used was the original graphical desktop back in the eighties[1] and I see that the basic layout & paradigm is the same.

It works and looks good (imo), so why change it ?

So just like the GNOME top panel but with added clutter?

I don't see any clutter in there, perhaps you mean the taskbar on the right ? If yes then those icons can be disabled.

[ruffwoof]

Not in the scrot but Chromium is running under unveil(2), it is invoked with a simple wrapper:

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Puffy:~$ cat `which chrome`
/usr/local/bin/chrome --enable-unveil
Puffy:~$

The entire filesystem tree is then invisible to the browser, I have to start the binary directly to be able to upload scrots

Wow, thanks Head_on_a_Stick.

Downloads (and I believe Uploads) under your home folder are still accessible.

I'm wrapping my chrome launch with ...

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rm -rf ~/.cache/chromium
rm -rf ~/.config/chromium
cd ~/Downloads
chrome --enable-unveil file:///home/user/Downloads/time.html

as I don't like G (chrome is already 5 million lines of code) having loads of additional G files other than the main program files on my system any longer than what I have to. Especially with the default 'continue to run in background when closed'. See also https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-se ... ogle-site/
I manually maintain time.html as my bookmarks file ... and it includes some javascript to show the date and time in its tab title.



Posting images is only a little different, I use mtpaint - open a terminal and sleep 5;mtpaint -s ...to grab a screenshot into mtpaint (sleep gives me time to alt-enter minimise the xterm window in cwm before the screenshot occurs). And then when mtpaint snapshot pops up just save it to ~/Downloads ... and upload/post it from there. As I start chrome from within the Downloads folder that folder shows up in Recent when the file selection window is shown.

Your scrot's 385 installed is 300 more than me (chromium, sshfs-fuse, mc, ispell, mtpaint). cwm, with colourful tmux and mc in console).

[None1975]

they are pretty pricey though (at least from what I saw, even used ones )

To pay for a brand-grated apple? Definetely not.

Not so much because programmers prefer them, but because it is Unix based,and certified , the most user friendly and versatile OS , as well as dependable.

It's an inflated business. I call it bullshit. With the new iPhones, the Apple marketing bullshit has reached new heights.

[pawRoot]

It's an inflated business. I call it bullshit. With the new iPhones, the Apple marketing bullshit has reached new heights.

I kind of agree, when it comes to new iPhones, they are not worth their price at all, 750 euro for a phone without full HD display, they are still great phones though.

Also i don't like what Apple is doing with their new laptops (all components soldered to motherboard),
the problem is that they have no competition in this segment imo, i tried to find a laptop with similiar design to Macbook Pro and all i found was i believe some Dell laptop with shitty trackpad and Windows 10 (it was like 200 euro cheaper? ), so no thanks, i would go for MBP anyway.

[Head_on_a_Stick]

Especially with the default 'continue to run in background when closed'. See also https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-se ... ogle-site/

I can happily confirm that page to be click-bait bullshit: my OpenBSD system does *not* log me into www/chromium if I sign in to my gmail page in the browser.

I manually maintain time.html as my bookmarks file ... and it includes some javascript to show the date and time in its tab title.

Neat!

Posting images

I use graphics/scrot for that, it's quicker than opening a paint program.

Your scrot's 385 installed is 300 more than me

Yup, there's a lot of crap in there

Back on topic with a scrot of www/chromium and it's new theme:



Note the difference compared to leafpad, I can't match the colours with it at all

[Head_on_a_Stick]

Checking out the new alpha2 release of Dragora GNU/Linux-Libre:



I'm ever-so-slightly disappointed by the (re-)adoption of sysvinit in preference over openrc-init but I can see why because openrc-init does feel a little bit Heath Robinson in comparison, which is fine for a lone user like me but not so good for a distribution aiming at a wide user base.

Big thumbs up for the default window manager, terminal and shell though — very wise choices all round

Anyway, link here:

http://rsync.dragora.org/ISO/

Mirrors:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dragora/files/alpha/

http://mirror.fsf.org/dragora/ISO/

EDIT: that VM is running with just 256MiB of RAM assigned so to see it host an X session is mightily impressive, neither pure Debian nor BunsenLabs can manage that.

[oswaldkelso]

HoaS you bastard stealing my thunder

Yes the geeks are loving it. With help I managed to get it running on hardware. Check out Qi https://www.dragora.org/repo.fsl/doc/tr ... oc/qi.html I'm still getting my head around it.
Very much an alpha and lots of bugs. I to was a wee bit disappointed with dropping sinit and runit but there was sound reasoning.

As for dwm it's better than I though but not my cup of tea. I have openbox and trying to build icewm today (with Qi). I suspect icewm will be there as I'm been tasked with making the desktop pretty.
There is a full Desktop environment going to be available but that'll a while yet and I suspect it will be TDE!

Edit:
One guy has it running on his Arm chromebook but not got X fixed yet.