Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Posted: 2017-10-20 22:52
Thanks Head_on_a_stick
Once I dropped nvidia to use the onboard radeon I liked OpenBSD quite a lot. One issue however I had was with installation to a partition. All too easy to have it install to the full disk and lose everything else (I multi-boot) as it does major changes without warning. I gave up with trying to install it to a partition as its disk partition program was too difficult for me in the end (far from intuitive/easy).
The trick is to use gdisk (for GPT drives) of fdisk (for msdos drives) to create the OpenBSD disklabel before running the installer — select type a600 in gdisk or type a6 in fdisk — and then use the default option in the partitioning stage to install to that disklabel and leave the rest of the disk alone.ruffwoof wrote:One issue however I had was with installation to a partition. All too easy to have it install to the full disk and lose everything else (I multi-boot) as it does major changes without warning. I gave up with trying to install it to a partition as its disk partition program was too difficult for me in the end (far from intuitive/easy).
That will only happen with -current and is quite normal for a rolling-release model.OpenBSD is more prone to updates breaking things such as different configuration files being used in later versions of programs
Worked great thanks. (fdisk to create a a6 and installed to that, now dual booting fine). For -release and just using pre-built packages (pkg_add), what would you suggest in the way of security updates for a basic single user desktop setup. Just run syspatch periodically perhaps and just leave third party programs as-is?Head_on_a_Stick wrote:For -release and -stable, the APIs are guaranteed to be fixed and any patches for -stable will only be applied if they do not necessitate a change to the relevant man page.
Whilst I would certainly agree that the range of hardware supported under OpenBSD is less than that for GNU/Linux, I would strongly disagree that hardware support per se is anything less than superb — my ThinkPad X201 performs better than under Linux with lower running temperatures and native backlight support, something that was lost to one of Linux's all-too-frequent regressions many years agoNone1975 wrote:In OpenBSD, hardware support is terrible.
Well, NVIDIA do not supply their source code (unlike AMD & Intel) so it is not surprising the support in OpenBSD is rather poor, no?Especially nvidia.
So would syspatch (for core) and pkg_add -u (for third party progs) generally suffice for a desktop setup? (I've not used Arch).Head_on_a_Stick wrote:@ruffwoof, use -current for a desktop system and stay on top of the API changes, it becomes just like Arch then
Also, people are expecting screenshots here rather than a discussion so...
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<TrayButton popup="" icon="/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/actions/view-sort-ascending.png">exec:mixerctl outputs.master=-12</TrayButton>
<TrayButton popup="" icon="/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/actions/view-sort-descending.png">exec:mixerctl outputs.master=+12</TrayButton>
Hello. I understand it. But what about open source video drivers for Nvidia cards? I mean Nouveau.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Well, NVIDIA do not supply their source code (unlike AMD & Intel) so it is not surprising the support in OpenBSD is rather poor, no?
The opinion of the OpenBSD developers is that the existence of the nouveau drivers encourages NVIDIA to keep their code closed so they have no interest in investing any time and effort into it.None1975 wrote:But what about open source video drivers for Nvidia cards? I mean Nouveau.
Thank you for the answer. I have no interest in investing any time and effort into porting nouveau for OpenBSD.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:The opinion of the OpenBSD developers is that the existence of the nouveau drivers encourages NVIDIA to keep their code closed so they have no interest in investing any time and effort into it.Anyway, the OpenBSD DRM tree has been synchronised with Linux so perhaps you could try porting nouveau yourself...
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*FvwmButtons "S Up" arrup2.xpm exec mixerctl outputs.master=+12
*FvwmButtons "S Down" arrdown2.xpm exec mixerctl outputs.master=-12
twm can be made to look a little better than that...ruffwoof wrote:There's a lot to be said for the elegance of sheer simplicity
Very nice, debimandebiman wrote:twm can be made to look a little better than that...