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Well those types have been around as long as I can remember. The mystery IMO is why various forums go through 'cycles'. It isn't just forums.debian.net (though I gather we are in one of those cycles) or even Linux or tech forums generally. 12+ years ago I was a very active user on a big web forum at that time (non-tech) and what started off as a helpful, polite place degenerated into nothing but a huge pissing contest that lasted for probably over two years. I can't say what happened, I don't think it was a problem with moderation ..... just that times changed, some new participants with different attitudes came onboard, and it all just got real nasty. Things finally turned around but by then key members had moved on and started alternative forums, and it's never returned to anything like its original 'glory'. Hope that doesn't happen here.iceman wrote:If this is true, I hope it is only temporary. Good thing is many that use Linux are not like this. But the ones who are, are the most noticed.dbruce wrote:Some people never outgrew the need to throw tantrums, or just see if they can get a reaction and maybe some attention.
dbruce wrote:Well those types have been around as long as I can remember. The mystery IMO is why various forums go through 'cycles'. It isn't just forums.debian.net (though I gather we are in one of those cycles) or even Linux or tech forums generally. 12+ years ago I was a very active user on a big web forum at that time (non-tech) and what started off as a helpful, polite place degenerated into nothing but a huge pissing contest that lasted for probably over two years. I can't say what happened, I don't think it was a problem with moderation ..... just that times changed, some new participants with different attitudes came onboard, and it all just got real nasty. Things finally turned around but by then key members had moved on and started alternative forums, and it's never returned to anything like its original 'glory'. Hope that doesn't happen here.iceman wrote:If this is true, I hope it is only temporary. Good thing is many that use Linux are not like this. But the ones who are, are the most noticed.dbruce wrote:Some people never outgrew the need to throw tantrums, or just see if they can get a reaction and maybe some attention.
And eventually it'd be just you and then, presumably, no more "trouble" eh...? I feel it's fair to say that luckily for the rest of us, you're not in a position of authority here.Randicus wrote:Personally, I believe the easiest way for a forum (any forum, not this one in particular) to deal with such trouble makers is to simply revoke their registrations. That is my opinion, because I have no trouble with authoritarian environments. If fora were stricter in enforcing decorum, it would be more difficult for trouble makers to raise a ruckus
It's a slippery slope - dictators almost always abuse their power and when everyone else is just a pawn in one person's game it's just a little perverse...vbrummond wrote:Heh, I half agree. A lot of times I think how much I would ban were I the dictator.
Am I the only one who finds the presence of this statement in a thread about hostility profoundly ironic?BowCatShot wrote:If most of you cowards would tell someone to RTFM to their face they'd knock you on your A$$.
But it took longer than I expected.Randicus wrote:(I can foresee the ruckus this post will cause. )
Not allowing trouble makers, who are quaintly called trolls on computer fora, to insult other members, use copious amounts of profanity and post obnoxious and/or obscene material is an unrealistic restriction?but it's far better to let people do their own thing than to impose unrealistic restrictions - the more you tighten up and the more rules you make, the more rules are there to be broken, dodged or hurled back in your face
I agree. Most of this forum's members are mature and reasonably intelligent. It is a good place to interact.iceman wrote:I personally think the Debian forums, over all, are much better then most Linux based forums I have been to. Nothing is perfect or 100% but the majority of people here seem to be pretty mature.
A pity you are not one of themRandicus wrote:I agree. Most of this forum's members are mature and reasonably intelligent.iceman wrote:I personally think the Debian forums, over all, are much better then most Linux based forums I have been to. Nothing is perfect or 100% but the majority of people here seem to be pretty mature.
You are right, he moved to China and seems to have done well intergrating with a new culture and language. What a losernadir wrote:A pity you are not one of themRandicus wrote:I agree. Most of this forum's members are mature and reasonably intelligent.iceman wrote:I personally think the Debian forums, over all, are much better then most Linux based forums I have been to. Nothing is perfect or 100% but the majority of people here seem to be pretty mature.
Thanks for the support, but don't bother arguing. I have an easier way. Today I started adding trolls to an ignore list.HungGarTiger wrote:You are right, he moved to China and seems to have done well intergrating with a new culture and language. What a loser
No one knows you are a dog on the internet.HungGarTiger wrote: You are right, he moved to China and seems to have done well intergrating with a new culture and language. What a loser
Haha I think you may have a point, but I realized a long time ago that 'the older you are the less you know' - and I knew everything when I was 13.nadir wrote:No one knows you are a dog on the internet.HungGarTiger wrote: You are right, he moved to China and seems to have done well intergrating with a new culture and language. What a loser
My point was that saying who is and who is not smart assumes that oneself is smart enough to be able to distinguish the both. And the ones who are not smart don't realize they are not, so they sure think they are amongst the former group.
It is more smart to assume one is part of the latter group It avoids looking ridiculous in the eyes of the ones who are able to see (or one is really damn smart, like i am. But that is seldom to be found amongst humans).
Whew! Reminds me of Rumsfeld's classic:nadir wrote:My point was that saying who is and who is not smart assumes that oneself is smart enough to be able to distinguish the both. And the ones who are not smart don't realize they are not, so they sure think they are amongst the former group.
It is more smart to assume one is part of the latter group It avoids looking ridiculous in the eyes of the ones who are able to see (or one is really damn smart, like i am. But that is seldom to be found amongst humans).
beardedragon wrote:To be honest, most of us have so much on our plate that it seems to flow over into everything we say and do. It's not fair, those of you I have had confrontations with, I apologize.
Thanks for the warning about another non-free forum, hence one i can easily omit.62chevy wrote: Anthony doesn't tolerate cursing even mild words like damn