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When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby keithostertag » 2017-06-17 17:35

I've been running Stretch for quite some time, but would like to now switch to stable.

Now that Stretch is about to become Stable (June 17, 2017), can I simply change my sources in /etc/apt/sources.list file from "stretch" to "stable", then run apt-get update?

I.e., can I change:
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deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free


to:

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deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main contrib non-free


then run sudo apt-get update without breaking anything?

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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby phenest » 2017-06-17 17:54

Leaving it as stretch means you will stay with stretch. Changing it to stable means you will upgrade as each new stable is released. As Stretch is released today, then currently stretch is the same as stable.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby pylkko » 2017-06-17 18:20

it's basically realeased already. Jessie was renamed oldstable already and Buster started etc.

the Debian stretch suites have now been renamed to stable! #releasingstretch http://dlvr.it/PMyHDM

see https://micronews.debian.org
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby dasein » 2017-06-17 19:39

keithostertag wrote:I've been running Stretch for quite some time, but would like to now switch to stable.

Then do nothing. No "switching" required.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby Lysander » 2017-06-17 22:53

There seems to be a lot of confusion on Reddit and IRC regarding whether to change sources.list in Jessie to Stable or Stretch. As far as I can see it's better to change it to Stable.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby dasein » 2017-06-17 23:17

Lysander wrote:As far as I can see it's better to change it to Stable.

No. Consult any of the zillion existing threads on why code name is invariably preferable to release name.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby Lysander » 2017-06-17 23:46

dasein wrote:
Lysander wrote:As far as I can see it's better to change it to Stable.

No. Consult any of the zillion existing threads on why code name is invariably preferable to release name.


Interesting. Someone said that changing to Stretch would result in receiving a frozen one-week old testing repo, not the actual Stable. So I'm guessing I should ignore that. Personally I would much rather change to Stretch than Stable.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby dasein » 2017-06-18 00:14

Lysander wrote:Someone said that changing to Stretch would result in receiving a frozen one-week old testing repo, not the actual Stable.

This someone is most charitably described as utterly ignorant about Debian, and completely clueless about the depth of that ignorance.

It's time for you to quit asking questions about Debian releases and develop expertise of your own:

https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NoRCBugs
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi ... s#s-frozen
https://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/10/18/u ... e-process/
https://debian-handbook.info/browse/sta ... cycle.html
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby Lysander » 2017-06-18 00:59

The links are much appreciated, dasein. I'll have a thorough read.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby phenest » 2017-06-18 08:22

Lysander wrote:As far as I can see it's better to change it to Stable.

Lysander wrote:Personally I would much rather change to Stretch than Stable.

Is this just a change of mind, or are you just very confused?
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby Lysander » 2017-06-18 08:53

phenest wrote:
Lysander wrote:As far as I can see it's better to change it to Stable.

Lysander wrote:Personally I would much rather change to Stretch than Stable.

Is this just a change of mind, or are you just very confused?


No, it was the same point, though less informed at the time. I was under the impression that it was better to change it to Stable though I would personally rather have it as Stretch - as long as that were doable. And it has been confirmed that it is.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby TonyT » 2017-06-19 12:54

As I understand it, presently, Stretch and Testing are pretty much the same thing, until new packages arrive in Testing. My sources list uses "testing" as I have been running Stretch for several months. I want to continue using testing, thus I can keep my sources list as they are. Am I correct?
# testing
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# multimedia
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ testing main non-free
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby None1975 » 2017-06-19 12:58

TonyT wrote:As I understand it, presently, Stretch and Testing are pretty much the same thing, until new packages arrive in Testing. My sources list uses "testing" as I have been running Stretch for several months. I want to continue using testing, thus I can keep my sources list as they are. Am I correct?
# testing
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# multimedia
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ testing main non-free

Yes. You are right.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby dasein » 2017-06-19 13:00

TonyT wrote:As I understand it, presently, Stretch and Testing are pretty much the same thing

NO. As of yesterday, Stretch and Stable are the same.

TonyT wrote:I want to continue using testing, thus I can keep my sources list as they are. Am I correct?

At the risk of sounding harsh, if you have to ask this question, if you don't understand Debian's release model, if you don't have even a basic understanding of sources.list, then you are nowhere near ready to run Testing.

(Doubly so given that you've been dabbling in Debian for over ten years... and you haven't mastered even these basics.)

You would do well to stick with Stretch, particularly now. Major breakage in Testing is typical immediately after the freeze.
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Re: When Stretch becomes stable can I change my sources?

Postby TonyT » 2017-06-19 17:17

None1975 wrote:
TonyT wrote:As I understand it, presently, Stretch and Testing are pretty much the same thing, until new packages arrive in Testing. My sources list uses "testing" as I have been running Stretch for several months. I want to continue using testing, thus I can keep my sources list as they are. Am I correct?
# testing
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# multimedia
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ testing main non-free

Yes. You are right.

Thanks. That's what I thought.
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