steve_v wrote:Marie SWE wrote:I tested Conky little fast, but I think something went wrong, I didn't get a window, just a desktop gadget and no possibility to open configuration settings, so I have to test again when I have a little more time than 15 minutes at the computer.
That's how conky works. There's no configuration GUI as such, you describe what you want in the monitor gadget and how it looks by editing the configuration file.
That's how many things work on GNU/Linux in general, you'd do well to get used to it.
Marie SWE wrote:ksysguard looks like gnome-system-monitor I use at the moment
but when my hdd goes hyperactive in my laptops i miss the HDD activity part.
The "process table" page can display "disk read" and "disk write" columns, right-click the column titles to enable them. You can also create your own monitor pages (or get them from the notoriously flaky and outdated "KDE store"). You can even connect to and monitor a remote machine over SSH.
I tested to install ksysguard on my LMDE laptop, and it's better than gnomemonitor as you saying.
Do you know if it is possible to get it to list what file who gets read/written to?
And this conkey is it only a gadget or is it possible to run it in a separate windows like ksysguard?
Marie SWE wrote:
But seriously, if not win10 had been a rolling release I had continued with wincrap...
Primary is to quickly get the system working and up and running, and then when everything works I can dig deeper into detail levels of things.
But seriously, that's not a very productive approach. Trying to replicate your windows environment, find direct equivalents to all your windows applications, and apply your windows knowledge will only lead to frustration. Doubly so if you're trying to do it quickly.
If you want an easy install up and running quickly, you need to accept that some things you are used to are not going to be there. You
can have most of what you're used to, in some shape or form (*cough* CLI), but some of those are advanced topics that will take time and effort to set up. Unfortunately advanced firewalls are for the most part in the latter category.
GNU/Linux being GNU/Linux, there generally aren't any "paid app" shortcuts for this either.
I suggest you keep Windows around for when you need your familiar things to just work. Play around with your GNU/Linux install, learn how it works and how things are done. Break it, repeatedly, ask questions, learn how to fix it. Discover the power of an operating system you can modify in any way you want and share with anyone you please, without being in a rush.
Then, when your attitude has morphed from "I need to ditch windows spyware" to "I don't need Windows, GNU/Linux is better because it's
free (or because it's
*nix)", that's the time to move permanently.
yes I know
I didn't switch to Linux for the right reason, but I have to, just for microsoft forcing my hand and to choose between a rock and a hard place.. apple is 2degrees better than microsoft but apple/mac solutions is way too expensive as it requires me to replace ALL hardware. That would be a lot of spent $ that I can use for better things in life with my income, So Linux is the absolute best thing of them all , even if that is hard work and some pain.... and if present time had been 20+ years ago it would have been a little bit easier as I had a computer interest at that time.
My big advantage is that I'm not tied up to specific microsoft programs or is a gamer.
I do use dualboot on almost all computers as backup in case I need windows or if one OS crashes, I just boot into the other and I can solve the problem when I get the time for it. I use windows ones or twice a month in average. But now LMDE3 is EOL so i need to replace it.. and install LMDE4 is not the best option.. short lifetime and its "almost" as much work to install that one as Debian... and with Debian I get a longer lifetime before EOL, so it's feels like the right step to do.... even if i going to make me swear a hundred times over.
My server and my computer I have to my TV is not dualboot and will never become dualboot systems.
I have accepted the fact that i have to use cli and hack/modifying files when I install and set up my system the first time.. it's when that process is over and everyday life starts to spin on and I just use my computers I want to avoid cli.
A bit like my engine in my summer car, I modified it to get more power and I painted it in purple, gold and with black details.. and when all was done it just is there now and I don't fix with it or notes it more than I do a service once a year. like an operating system/engine.. you install you tweak it and then when all is done, you forget about it.. just service it with security updates add a program or add a firewall rule when something is changed. (like engine service) It's here it really shows that i lost my computer interest.
and I'm almost ashamed of myself for being in here, considering I'm among you all who do have a burning interest left.
and at the same time a little jealous that I don't have it left anymore like you all in here.
Now it now it became a bit depressing atmosphere, best to talk about other things. Hahaha
Thanks I will take a look at all your links after i have sent this post
Marie SWE wrote:But microsoft needs a competitor so they have to stop doing their crazy, insane, things they are doing.. M$ have become totally crazy about the ultimate control over their customers and built in surveillance backdoors and they have access to all customers personal data that are on the HDD's.. and they justifies it by saying that
"if we suspect crime", they can read content, activate the microphone and webcam
One can wonder when in hell did Microsoft became part of the police force
So I would like/wish that Linux became that competitor so the question about integrity and the right to my data is my data and I share it only when/if I want to share it.
While GNU/Linux is indeed a good choice if you want to escape corporate surveillance, that's a very shallow view of free-software. Visit
gnu.org if you want to see what the GNU in GNU/Linux is actually about.
GNU/Linux is an
alternative to proprietary operating systems, not a competitor. It will never really be a competitor to Microsoft, because it doesn't play in the same ballpark.
The GNU/Linux community celebrates when another mind joins the club, and when it frees people from the tyranny of proprietary software, not because it's somehow beating Microsoft into submission or winning market share... Unless you're a gamer of course, gamers do care about market share, because they want more proprietary games.
Yes i do know
But I can wish for it, can't I?
use the whip on M$
One of the big questions i do burn for and spend free time on, is the right to integrity and to have the choice yourself, that my data is my data and the right to have the choice to choose whether I want or not want to share it and what i share
I have participated in the customer experience program on a win7 machine. Likewise with Firefox ticked in to share. But I have never done it on a work computer. The developers they do need feedback to make a good product and I am willing to help sometimes when I get the choice to choose for myself and what computer to activate it on.
As others have already said, we've pretty much won any "competition for market share" anyway, at least for the markets where we care. Without a single shot fired.
The biggest target audience has historically been (and likely always will be) the sysadmins, the hackers, and the specialised system developers. In those markets GNU/Linux is overwhelmingly the OS of choice. The middle, the average home users, simply haven't been a priority.
Since the average home user is pretty clueless anyway (no offence intended, you're clearly not that), IMO we really don't need them. They're not going to pitch in and make the OS better, they're just going to surf facebook and complain when stuff breaks.
If we were to make GNU/Linux as "average user" friendly as Windows, we'd just be making another Windows. That would be horrible.
no offence taken
I maybe not dropped on my head or clueless, but I ain't a sysadmin, and not a hacker and no developer or burning for the cause. I do am the stupid user in one way, so to speak.
now I have said it, so no one else needs to say it.
Hahaha
But do I like to share my experiences to make it easier for new linux users, I do think linux is the future in one way... that's why I have written some Swedish how to guides, and if I see a question that I feel, yes this one I can the answer to, or I know so much that I dare to answer it, Then I do it.
I actually have two small projects in progress.
My first.... Is it as difficult/easy to learn how to use a linux computer VS a windows computer for a person who has never even touched a computer in his/her entire life.
I think it's just as easy/difficult, because a person who has never sat at a computer does not know what windows is more than that they maybe have heard the name. With absolutely zero knowledge, they can't install or tweak in windows either, they need some one to build and install the computer first.
My second one is, write an absolute beginner's guide in Swedish for dummies aimed at those who more or less have it's thumb in the middle of their hand, How they can install Mint20.x dualboot or on an old discarded computer and there first steps into the linux world, step by step and with printscreen pictures.
The first thing I will mention in it, is that linux is not for everyone. for one example, the one who is 99% dependent on windows programs or who only has the computer to play games on. Of course you can run some windows programs in wine and make games (win-based) games work in linux. But it is not uncomplicated and not for the absolute beginner with the thumb in the wrong place. And if they like linux then they maybe have the start to evolve and become the next generation of linux users.. super advanced or not .. depending on how much time they spend and how curious they becomes of linux.
Marie SWE wrote:How many years of experience do you have in modifying and tweaking Linux systems?
20, give or take a few. I started with the most arcane distribution possible (Slackware), on horribly obsolete hardware, back when getting a GUI of any kind to work at all was many hours of mucking with configuration files... You did ask.
I rest my case,.. that's why you beat my ass fifty times over in linux knowledge... 20year VS 4-6 active month
I can almost imagine that linux 20years ago, the most user-friendly part was when you put the CD in the cd-rom drive and closed the lid.
I have notice just only since 2018 some things actually has become easier. so on 20years.. probably extremely easier.
Marie SWE wrote:of course it will take time before I achieve your folks knowledge with my inefficient time of tweaking in Linux... I will make big mistakes, I will swear, I will hate my computer's, I would probably sometimes wish I could make it all go away. and I will complaining about things..
But I will eventually learn it.
But the road is long before it becomes a reality.
Of course, that's how it always works. Props to you for sticking with it, and for the the positive attitude. The vast majority of people give up the moment they have to learn anything new.
Thanks.
But I was almost about to throw the computer out the window, with it closed during my first year of hell
(well my first 6-8 months to be completely honest was my year of hell)
I was seriously about to give up a couple of times during 2018 about my goal to not be dependent on windows when win7 reached EOL2020. But my hate of what microsoft is doing was and is my driving force that kept/keep me going even when it's tough.
Hate is some time a good motivation in life.. and for the star wars fans. no it doesn't always lead to the dark side. Hahaha
Marie SWE wrote:No I didn't know that.. nobody has ever tip me about that. of what I learned about linux so far I have learned on my own. I have not had the help of anyone who knows Linux and the questions I asked on two forums(now three) have only been "thing specific" questions
Well... I only recently learned to use bash's totally awesome
keybinds properly.
All those years of wasted keystrokes...
There's always new stuff to learn, that's part of the appeal.
IIRC the moment my attitude flipped from "this is DOS, I hate DOS" to "the CLI on GNU/Linux is freaking awesome" was around about when I discovered tab-completion...
I too learned what I know by figuring it out myself, and it shows in just how much I
don't know. In hindsight I probably should have read a book or something. There are many such documents out there, but I don't have any specific recommendation, someone else here might.
On why GNU/Linux doesn't have a clicky helper tool for everything (full of emoticons and no more than 3 syllable words), and expects that you will actually
want to use the CLI, you might
try this little snippet on the Linux philosophy.
This operating system is at heart a reimplementation of old-school UNIX, created by a bunch of nonconformist hackers and computer nerds, for nonconformist hackers and computer nerds. Quite often it shows, and quite often it shows in that the user interface is arcane and/or incomplete, and the user is expected to be at least halfway competent.
It's a UNIX thing really, elegance (in the sense of the code) over elegance (in the sense of the UI). Power over pretty, function over form, fishing lessons over free fish.
TBH on the rare occasion when I have to use Windows, it's not the spyware that annoys me most... It's the pervasive attitude that all computer users were repeatedly dropped on their heads as children, and what's actually going on needs to be hidden behind a meaningless animation lest it scare people away. Witness the witless baby-speak in the Windows 10 installer...
my experience was more, okay this is DOS and i must have it what is the programs i can use on this... I loved when 3.11 came and to have real graphic 2 or 4bit i think it was EGA.. but still DOS needed.. and when win98SE came and win2000.. my feeling was YES windows made DOS go away and then16Bit SVGA.. wow i will never ever go back to "square graphic 2-4Bit" again was my feeling.
so yes we had a slightly different start in computer life
That is the most beauty and basic thing in life.. we all learn new things until the day we die.
nobody will ever be completely learned in something.. because everything evolves over time.. we all can just trying to keep up.
I thank you for your thought and consideration
but I avoid reading massive texts about things, as my dyslexia irritates me when I read for a little longer time. the text almost flows together after a while so I have to take a break.
The absolutely fastest ways I learn is by looking at how things are done and then practicing what I have seen with someone beside me who can make sure I do the right way.. then I learn things almost overnight. But unfortunately it doesn't apply to code as it is text to read even if i stand beside someone.
I have seen ChrisTitus live streaming on twitch a few times, he is pretty good on explain things, and that has given some insight and knowledge about Linux
Okay I only need to use windows or MSoffice when some one sends some excel document that libre/open/free office can't read correctly. so i am pretty free from microsofts claws.
Why make things complicated in life, if you can make it easier for yourself... Do it. ;o)
You only have one life, so make the most of it and enjoy it while you can.