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Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-11 19:48

I've been struggling with 'package updater' telling me at first that no internet connection was detected and now 'there are no updates available'. I'm not confident it's telling me I'm all updated and not that it isn't connecting properly....is there any way otherwise to check an update "level" like a numerical value of some kind(like Windoze would have a build#)...
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby dasein » 2017-07-11 20:21

And the version of Debian that you're running is......... ????

(Sorry, flunked telepathy in school.)
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-07-11 20:32

In this recent thread : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=133859 3 pages , goes into great detail .
Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-09 10:02
Package Updater says "no network connection was detected", although internet works fine(wireless) and I'm on it right now writing this post......any ideas? I'm a disabled i.t. pro, so I'm not hesitant to try ideas...
T.I.A.
-Al

Unless the OP has re-installed, as advised, then they should let us know what
version the used to re-install.
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Also could the OP clarify, what is this
Package Updater
they are
referring to ? I just did a bunch of searches and can not find anything referring
to a "package updater", on Debian.
There are a wide range of tutorials and documentation on package management, but I find nothing on a "Package Updater"

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html
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https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
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https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement
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https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
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https://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/20/apt-get-aptitude-%E2%80%A6-pick-the-right-debian-package-manager-for-you/
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby Lysander » 2017-07-11 21:04

I think OP is referring to the Package Updater utility

Image

as far as I can see it's just a GUI version of entering

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# apt full-upgrade
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-07-12 01:12

I don't know, I see it on your screen shot, but still can not find anything
about that in any searches. I have never seen anything like that on any of my Debian installations either.
Confusing name "Package Updater", if it does upgrades like you say:
as far as I can see it's just a GUI version of entering

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# apt full-upgrade


Seems like a more appropriate name would be "System Up-grader "

running :
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apt update

is a entirely different thing, then running :
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apt full-upgrade

Maybe the OP should clarify what it is exactly they want to do.
Does the OP just want to update their sources, or are they trying to upgrade, ?

I give up, none of this is making sense to me .
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby Lysander » 2017-07-12 09:36

GarryRicketson wrote:I give up


I think that's wisest as far as this debacle is concerned.
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-12 18:22

I apologize for the confusion, guys.....I'm not sure how to check what version and update level, etc., I'm on......I'm also struggling with my sourcelist possibly being compromised, so I don't trust the messages 'package updater' in the system folder of the Applications Menu is giving me
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby stevepusser » 2017-07-12 18:39

Have you tried managing your updates with Synaptic? It works well, and the "Status" section will show any upgradeable packages. This assumes that whoever had your netbook before didn't try any tricks with the apt-preferences for the repos; those can hide upgrades that normal users will see.
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-12 19:04

If I try Synaptic Package Manager, I see there are several items not currently installed, but if I simply click the 'mark all upgrades' button, then the 'apply' button is still grayed out, presumably b/c it didn't find anything to mark I would guess?
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-12 20:54

dasein wrote:And the version of Debian that you're running is......... ????

(Sorry, flunked telepathy in school.)

from terminal:
dad@dadlinux:~$ cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l

dad@dadlinux:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
8.8
dad@dadlinux:~$
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-12 21:00

also...
dad@dadlinux:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.8 (jessie)
Release: 8.8
Codename: jessie
dad@dadlinux:~$
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby dasein » 2017-07-13 00:44

ayarrington73 wrote:I'm also struggling with my sourcelist possibly being compromised...

Which begs the question of why you didn't bother to mention it earlier, nor post its contents in your second message.

Some folks just want attention, not help.
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-13 14:07

dasein wrote:
ayarrington73 wrote:I'm also struggling with my sourcelist possibly being compromised...

Which begs the question of why you didn't bother to mention it earlier, nor post its contents in your second message.

Some folks just want attention, not help.

umm...rude.....no, I'm not looking for attention......I'm a disabled i.t. pro and my mind doesn't always fire at 100% anymore, so I'm trying to include any other details as they occur to me and seem applicable... :mrgreen:
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby ayarrington73 » 2017-07-13 14:11

Upon earlier advice, I had changed my sources.list to the following:

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

Now, I'm not skilled at reading these, but it looks to me like the only sources listed are "non-free" and I wonder if that is limiting me from getting the "normal" free updates....
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Re: Any way to verify your patch 'level'?

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-07-13 14:59

That was confusing to me, and perhaps still is, but I think the fact that the lines
contain all 3,..
main contrib non-free
"main" is the main sources,
"contrib", is contrib sources, and "non-free" is the non-free sources,.....
ayarrington73 » the only sources listed are "non-free"

You have all 3 listed, so it is not only non-free, a line that was only non-free
would look like this:
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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie non-free

or one that does NOT contain "non-free" and "contrib" :
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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie main


Hope that makes sense, and also if I am not right on this, someone needs to clarify.
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